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That's why he gave him a Dr. Seuss book. That part wasn't real. I just inserted that part.

And that's my mother like, no, I can't even read green eggs and ham. I'm like, I spell backwards. My.

This is an older alcoholic woman who literally just made a scowl and went fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck for an hour and a half on a school bus.

This was like greatest fucking thing I've ever seen.

I write a book called Cat in the Hat.

It's an Amazon.

Just my name is Festum Familiorti.

That's for children yeah.

one is for adults that's lost in American dream and that one is for children so

His phone is resting on two books...it's resting on Green Eggs and Ham, Dr. Seuss, and it's resting on a book that says Podcasting for Dummies, showing you Ted Cruz's real priorities or maybe the lack thereof.

That's right. It was originally meant as a reading primer. I think there were 225.

And shove it. And shove it and give me my $50. And that is supposedly true.

He could actually teach the world's children how to read English at least.

That's right. It was originally meant as a reading primer. I think there were 225.

225 words and very famously his editor bet him after that that he could not write a book with only 50 words and he went take this book Green Eggs and Ham.

That's where we got the cat in the hat.

It was originally meant as a reading primer. I think there were 225.

225 words and very famously his editor bet him after that that he could not write a book with only 50 words and he went take this book Green Eggs and Ham.

And shove it. And shove it and give me my $50. And that is supposedly true.

He'd shown not only could he write fun whimsical stories with the disguised moral lesson in the middle of it too with great illustrations and hand-drawn fonts and all that.

White shirt black shirt red fish blue fish. That's one of those Dr. Seuss books. That's what I'm doing. That's what the fuck I'm doing

And when she reads like The Cat in the Hat, she goes, the cat in the hat came into the house and on the floor it saw a mouse. She kept doing that.

She thinks it means just yell the last word.

White shirt black shirt white shirt black shirt red fish blue fish. That's one of those Dr. Seuss books. That's what I'm doing. That's what the fuck I'm doing.

Yes, you're framing yourself like green eggs and ham.

we had a Doctor Seuss book come every week or something like that because we were in a book club and used to come home every every night and after dinner we would sit lay on the rug we had a hooked one of those hooked rugs and we lay on the rug and you'd put your arm around me and way we go through one or two books and you taught me to read

They found a duvet, a Dr. Seuss book and fibers of the outfit JonBenet was wearing that night, indicating perhaps the murderer might've tried to kidnap her or remove her from the scene in the suitcase, but it was too big.

I remember I, I, I've done my homework, green eggs and ham, green eggs and ham. I do not like them. Okay. And it's like, should you really be eating eggs? They're green. I kind of thing hilarious.

And now we're talking about all of this really politicized stuff. And so I said look there's been this idea on the right that you know it was always like it's always like well the campus crazies will just stay on campus because then they'll go to real life and they'll get mugged by reality to use the old Buckley in line and then they'll stop and they'll go back to normal and everything will be fine, right. Well, that's not what happened. The campus crazies followed into the corporate crazies, the military crazies, the academia crazies, all the crazies right everywhere. And so that's now filtering into where? Into schools, right? Pre-K through 12. And of course this is happening. We see CRT, etc., etc. And the books are a huge part of this.

It features a little boy and his sister Sally. And while the little boy is a narrator, Sally doesn't get to talk at all. She doesn't get to do anything. She just follows her brother around like she's the grim reaper and he's Joe Biden. The only action she does get to do is get tangled up in a kite string. So she's not allowed to talk and she's clumsy.

You know when we're little we've all had the children's books, right? The Dr. Seuss books.

When I was little I can remember reading Dr. Seuss books and the theme always was be yourself.

In one of the most popular Dr. Seuss books, what won't Sam I. Am eat?

in one of the most popular Dr. Seuss books, what won't Sam I.M. eat?

Green eggs and ham

So it was really fun. I'm sure you read your kids' bedtime stories. It's a great thing to do. And so, and I tried to do that every night when I was at home, read them bedtime stories.

And so since I was going, we came up, it was actually a guy on my team that came up with the idea of, well, why don't you read a bedtime story during the filibuster?

And so Green Eggs and Ham, when I was a kid, Green Eggs and Ham was my favorite book as a little kid. And I have read it to the girls many, many times.

And so we called home and told them, turn on the TV, turn on C-SPAN. And I read them Green Eggs and Ham because it was their bedtime.

And then Caroline, who's my eldest, whom I adore, she's five and she's just cracking up laughing. And look, Caroline has always been pretty cynical kid and pretty much nothing I've done in the Senate has impressed her. When I came home after that, she looked at me, she had her arms crossed and she went, okay, dad, that was kind of cool.

And when was the last time she read a book? Queen X and Ham by Dr. Seuss. That's probably her last book.

It would probably just be like Green Eggs and Ham. Really? I'm Sam. I'm Sam, Sam, I am Sam, I am Sam. I do not like them, Sam, I am Green Eggs and Ham.

green eggs and ham is not one of the books the dr seuss foundation has decided to stop publishing

Alright, I've got one that they can't possibly have a problem with. Hop on Pop. What? Disrespectful to parents? You gotta be kidding me.

He was just being like so sweet and cute. What was he reading? He was reading um. The Cat in the Hat? He was reading The Cat in the Hat. And I was reading like the book.

It's fun to have fun, but you have to know how.

I'm not pulling out cat in the hat to read it.

What do green eggs and your Christmas dinner have in common? Well, they both need a ham to be complete.

some dr seuss books were getting canceled so kevin mccarthy recorded a video of himself reading green eggs and ham even though that wasn't one of the canceled books

kevin mccarthy recorded a video of himself reading green eggs and ham even though that wasn't one of the canceled books

It is about framing the way you view the world and giving people this lens from which to approach the challenges they face.

And that's just a fundamental thing that most people need, if I can loosely quote Jordan Peterson.

But he says things like, I'll try it. It's hard not to make fun of some of these guys. But this is what he says, like blah, blah, blah lobsters, right? Because alpha lobsters hold their claws up in the air. This is what he writes at the beginning of 12 rules.

Some of you know I've written these books 12 rules for life and then Beyond order 12 more rules because you know you can't have enough rules.

I just finished your book

The your first 12 rules

And I actually say this in our book, but um when I was a freshman I was hiding books under my bed including your book 12 rolls for life and Thomas Souls books so I had my like secret library underneath my bed which I'm ashamed to admit looking back but when you're in a new place

Don't look read your book years ago and gave it to me and we're big readers we love to read he was like mom read this so good 12 rolls that one and then we went back and read about some meaning and all that and just started listened to your podcast and and have loved you and followed you and and prayed for your family

He was like mom read this so good

Karen you did it again, you already have a big joke book right?

I do, I treasure it, thank you, absolutely, forever how exciting to get to see Jordan Peterson on the night stand next to my bed 12 rules for life

I go over it with my grandchildren, that I'm helping to raise, you're a wonderful man, you're all great, I love you all, Karen Jones everybody

in his bestselling book, 12 Rules for Life and Anodote to Chaos, Dr. Peterson argues that strict hierarchies are natural and healthy at least to some extent.

Peterson uses the example of lobsters, which humans share a common evolutionary ancestor with.

And in fact he acted as the hype man for Jordan Peterson during the professor's world tour after the release of his book 12 rules For life like he would introduce him at shows and stuff

consciousness is symbolically masculine and has been since the beginning of time.

the soul of the individual eternally hungers for the heroism of genuine being.

Peterson basically positions his book as an answer to the crisis facing Western civilization.

Compassion is a vice and toughen up, you weasel.

to prove his point, Peterson uses the example of lobsters, which humans share a common evolutionary ancestor with.

Peterson argues that like humans, lobsters exist in hierarchies and have a nervous system attuned to status, which runs on serotonin, a brain chemical often associated with feelings of happiness.

With the advent of the Internet, elements of the pickup artists communities ideology hardened into something darker. It paved the way for other masculinized self-help formations to emerge, such as Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life, says O'Neill.

And in fact he acted as the hype man for Jordan Peterson during the professor's world tour after the release of his book 12 rules For life like he would introduce him at shows and stuff

Stand up for yourself. Take care of yourself. Make friends. Don't compare yourself to others. Mind your children. Set your house in order. Pursue meaning. Tell the truth. Listen to people. Be precise. Give children freedom and enjoy pets.

consciousness is symbolically masculine and has been since the beginning of time.

the soul of the individual eternally hungers for the heroism of genuine being.

Peterson basically positions his book as an answer to the crisis facing Western civilization.

Culture, one of his typical arguments goes, is symbolically, archetypally, mythically male. And this is why resistance to male dominance is unnatural.

And in fact he acted as the hype man for Jordan Peterson during the professor's world tour after the release of his book 12 rules For life like he would introduce him at shows and stuff and this gets worse terrible terrible sets

men have to toughen up, men demanded and women want it.

consciousness is symbolically masculine and has been since the beginning of time.

the soul of the individual eternally hungers for the heroism of genuine being.

Peterson basically positions his book as an answer to the crisis facing Western civilization.

in his bestselling book, 12 Rules for Life and Anodote to Chaos, Dr. Peterson argues that strict hierarchies are natural and healthy at least to some extent.

Peterson uses the example of lobsters, which humans share a common evolutionary ancestor with. Peterson argues that like humans, lobsters exist in hierarchies and have a nervous system attuned to status, which runs on serotonin, a brain chemical often associated with feelings of happiness.

There's a chapter from his book, 12 Rules for Life. The chapter that best describes this teaching is rule two. Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping.

He goes into detail about why people tend to take care of others and their pets more than themselves.

People are better at feeling and properly administering prescription medication to their pets than to themselves.

But with yourself, you just let it go.

The problem is we know so much more about ourselves than anyone else. We know the full range of our secret transgressions, our insufficiencies and inadequacies.

There's a chapter from his book, 12 Rules for Life. The chapter that best describes this teaching is rule two. Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping.

People are better at feeling and properly administering prescription medication to their pets than to themselves.

The problem is we know so much more about ourselves than anyone else. We know the full range of our secret transgressions, our insufficiencies and inadequacies.

I truly recommend you go out and get the book,

There's a chapter from his book, 12 Rules for Life.

The chapter that best describes this teaching is rule two. Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping.

People are better at feeling and properly administering prescription medication to their pets than to themselves.

When someone else has a health issue in your family or your friend group, you become a doctor, but with yourself, you just let it go.

The problem is we know so much more about ourselves than anyone else. We know the full range of our secret transgressions, our insufficiencies and inadequacies.

So the thing that I recently came across that is shocking is not going to be news to a lot of people. But have you read Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life?

I guess put simply take it down out of the ivory tower a little bit which is what we're doing here anyway. You can do things out of love, you can do things out of fear. You do it for both reasons too. You can do things to please yourself, you can do things to please others, you can do things to avoid others being disappointed in you, you being disappointed in yourself. Presumably it's both. But is there any, I'm dying for you to tell me that when we do things out of love, we learn faster but maybe that's not the case.

Well, I don't know. I mean, so two thoughts. One is just honoring Danny Kahneman who just passed away. His work with Amos Tversky took on a version of this question in prospect theory and it's the idea of does the fear of a loss motivate us more than the prospect of a gain?

And their argument is that both can be motivating as well as the possibility of a loss but that loss is loom larger, that people are more willing to take a risky gamble to prevent a loss than they are to get a numerically equal, like a mathematically equal gain.

I loved this book. It helped me to understand how our minds work and how we make decisions.

Daniel Kahneman is perhaps best known as the author of Thinking Fast and Slow, but he also helped revolutionize the fields of both psychology and economics.

He became famous for his 2011 book Thinking Fast and Slow but it was his decades of earlier research, much of it done with his collaborator Amos Tversky,

Thinking Fast and Slow

Danny Kahneman, whose famous book, Thinking Fast and Slow, also suggests that we are a house divided.

If you think about the dual processing tradition, of which Danny Kahneman and Amos Fersky are the most famous proponents, what you're getting there is an exact echo of this Buddhist or Platonic picture.

I'm a big fan of his books, "Thinking, Fast and Slow." Kind of like it was one of those books.

I wrote about Daniel Kahneman a few weeks ago.

Prospect theory won condominium his Nobel, but he's best known for his seminal book, Thinking Fast and Slow.

The titular concept that we have two thinking systems, a fast one for intuitive emotional insights and a slow one for logical calculated decisions is something that has saved me from me dozens of times.

We are prone to overestimate how much we understand about the world and to underestimate the role of chance.

Markets and random chance trump individual performance.

When something really good happens you make a great investment when you get promoted Keep in mind a lot of that is you're in the right place of the right time and be really humble.

The pain of loss is greater than the emotional benefit of gains.

The real way to make money is to zig when everyone's zagging and your emotions are not isolated to you.

Thinking fast and slow brought these ideas to the mainstream and became a mega best seller Neil I believe I saw it on your bookcase the last time I was over

Coniman and his longtime collaborator almost versky created a bunch of these heuristics which show which are basically rules of thumb that show how humans do not behave rationally

That's why Danny called his bestselling book, thinking fast and slow because thinking fast is using system one and thinking slow is using system two.

I read his books and saw I didn't would not have guessed personally, you know that vivek would have and again no shade on vivek. He's a super successful guy.

His groundbreaking 2011 book thinking fast and slow propelled him into the public eye and he went on to win countless awards and honorary degrees.

I'm sure a lot of folks here have read Thinking Fast and Slow, and Danny is, I think, one of the great social scientists in history.

Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman, which helped me teach me about self-confidence and so much more!

thinking fast and slow by Daniel Kahneman which helped me teach me about self confidence and so much more

I'm a huge fan of the book Thinking Fast and Slow. I don't know if you've read it. It's a great book.

Just understanding system 1 and system 2. If anyone watching hasn't read it I highly recommend it.

Daniel Conman in Amos Tversky they talk about it in their work you know they're thinking fast and slow for example which which to us is a magic book how people make decisions and he they often say if you phrase a question one way versus another way and even though the same thing is at stake it's the same equation if you phrase it this way they'll prefer that if you phrase it that way they prefer the other one it and it makes no sense because that's it about online it's like which one do you want well I think the brain runs algorithms and some of its historical and how we are raised

I should give a nod to Annie Duke. I used to always refer to this as reverse engineering, but in Annie Duke's book she wrote about this exact thing and called it backcasting, and I was like, I like the term backcasting better. I think it's more intuitive than reverse engineering.

You may be familiar with system one and system two from the book Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman.

He wrote, not only are we blind to the obvious, but we are blind to our blindness.

The phenomenon even had a name, courtesy of the psychologists Danny Kahneman and Amos Tversky. They had called it the planning fallacy.

From an economic standpoint, this sounds backwards. You would think that larger size theoretically creates more specialization of labor and ultimately higher productivity.

If you realistically present to people what can be achieved in solving a problem, they will find that completely uninteresting. You can't get anywhere without some degree of overpromising.

I read your book. I don't know if you've thought about this or if others have said this to you, but I read this as a little bit of an analog to Danny Kahneman's book, Thinking Fast and Slow. Are you familiar with Danny and or his book?

If you realistically present to people what can be achieved in solving a problem, they will find that completely uninteresting. You can't get anywhere without some degree of overpromising.

Kahneman's book thinking fast and slow really opened a lot of eyes around the world

The research paper that Heller and the others would write is called 'Thinking Fast and Slow', which is the same name as Kahneman's 2011 book.

You know, I kind of often talk about Daniel Kahneman and thinking fast and slow was kind of just, I think, a really great overall kind of modern guide to thinking, if that isn't a little too pretentious or too precious rather.

Sutherland here subscribes to the theories of Daniel Kahneman, the author of Thinking Fast and Slow, who suggests the brain engages in two distinct kinds of thinking, system one and system two, Kahneman calls it.

The best description I've ever heard of this comes from Danny Kahneman, the Nobel-winning psychologist and author of Thinking Fast and Slow. He calls it being blind to our blindness.

He's the author of the book Thinking Fast and Slow.

Some people read thinking fast and slow in the hope that reading it will improve their minds.

I wrote it and it didn't improve my mind.

a lot of it out echoes of Daniel Kahneman's thinking slow and fast.

Josiah says, Greetings from England. I recently came upon the No Stupid Questions podcast and would love to hear your thoughts on the importance of semantics, especially in relation to the idea of priming as written about in the great Danny Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow.

He's so great, Danny Kahneman. He is.

And so is Josiah from England exactly.

And Danny Kahneman did write a great book too, you know, Thinking Fast and Slow.

And there's no amount just like technology in saying leave your phone outside of the room for two hours before bed and don't check it for the first four hours that that genie is out of the bottle

I gave that book to all my friends. It was a big deal for me.

One of the things I remember reading was the 4-Hour Workweek, and it was like, how can I hack this work stuff, like I don't have to be at the office.

I read that book, that 4-Hour Workweek a long time ago.

There was a book that really kind of helped me with that transition, which was "The 4-Hour Workweek" by Timothy Ferriss, and it talks about the idea that you can build your own business. You don't have to work a traditional 9 to 5 job to be successful, and you can set up your life in a way that is more conducive to your health and longevity.

It was four-factor model based, even though I didn't know at the time, I came up with that.

When I first read about Justin's life, I envisioned him as a wealthy tech entrepreneur, a Tim Ferriss type.

He's the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers, including The 4-Hour Workweek and Tools of Titans: The Tactics, Routines, and Habits of Billionaires, Icons, and World-Class Performers.

The four hour work week

He's written five number one New York Times best-selling books, including the four-hour work week, tools of Titans, the tactics, routines, and habits of billionaires, icons, and world-class performers, tribe of mentors, short-life advice from the best in the world, and more.

An easy way to remember at least how I tend to approach it is with this framework, which was in the first book, the Firework Week, D-E-A-L, which is define, eliminate, automate, and then liberate.

I think that's right, yeah, I mean especially this whole generation of people right. So, for example, e-commerce entrepreneurs, what are they really good at? It's like ad words buying and like optimizing your click-through rates and user flows, and so like it's a very natural extension that we go from optimizing every part of our business into optimizing ourselves.

This whole generation of people right, so for example, e-commerce entrepreneurs what are they really good at? It's like ad words buying and like optimizing your click through rates and user flows. And so like it's a very natural extension that we go from optimizing every part of our business into optimizing ourselves.

This whole generation of people right, so for example, e-commerce entrepreneurs, what are they really good at? It's like ad words buying and like optimizing your click-through rates and user flows and so like it's a very natural extension that we go from optimizing every part of our business into optimizing ourselves.

This the Tim Ferris kind of started this fire with Four Hour Body, Four Hour Workweek before that what do you think about that idea? I think that's right yeah I mean especially this whole generation of people right so for example e-commerce entrepreneurs what are they really good at? It's like ad words buying and like optimizing your click through rates and user flows and so like it's a very natural extension that we go from optimizing every part of our business into optimizing ourselves that makes sense.

I think that's right. Yeah, I mean especially this whole generation of people right. So, for example, e-commerce entrepreneurs, what are they really good at? It's like ad words buying and like optimizing your click through rates and user flows, and so like it's a very natural extension that we go from optimizing every part of our business into optimizing ourselves.

I remember I read a book called "The 4-Hour Workweek." It was really interesting because he had like a really different way of thinking about like work, and time, and how you maximize your time.

He was saying that people get fatty livers now from sugar. There's people it was when you're when you operated on they ask you like do you drink? And yes if you like drinking more than five nights a night so or five drinks a night.

They have to hit you with like benzodiazepine When you get a surgery so you don't hit the fucking DT's or in your hospital I didn't know this in your hospital bed. They'll give you the DT's from five drinks, and that's what this do.

Take it with dr. Don't drink in there fucking pussies about it Like well you're not supposed to have more than two drinks, it's like shut up, dude

There's a lot of books on people just trying to avoid work.

At the time I had recently read a book by Tim Ferriss called the four hour work week.

I think at about this time, I came across the four hour work week book and that was eyeopening. Uh, there's kind of a formula in there with the different types of products that work in an e-commerce type of business.

And there was a list in there and I don't remember everything, but there were definitely things. It was basically something that was, that you could ship easily, that wouldn't break, that was high value, you know, wasn't overly complex.

Or overly seasonal.

Yeah. And so with that in mind, we were thinking, Oh, what, what could we do that, that would fit that?

And I had this idea of this four hour work week. That's why we set out to do this.

At the time, 4-Hour Workweek was like, all of those a huge deal, right?

I had read 4-Hour Workweek. And particularly as it related to RunMyErin.com, I thought, oh my god, if I could get Tim as an advisor to this company, that's going to be a huge win for us.

And we just really bond and connect over four hour work week and run my errand and how they're so collaborative.

instantly I thought of Tim Ferriss and of course his book, The Four Hour Workweek came out in 2009, but you were basically doing this at the time.

In 2007, a completely unknown writer named Tim Ferriss published an obscure book called The Four Hour Workweek.

The book basically outlined how Tim escaped the 9 to 5 grind by outsourcing most of his job to other people.

But none of that ever worried Tim Ferriss, because he had a plan.

And yet Tim Ferriss, an unknown writer and entrepreneur who lived in a small apartment in San Jose, California, would go on to sell more than 2 million copies of The Four Hour Workweek.

That book sat on the New York Times bestseller list for four years.

And there's a whole book on how you can work less, which a lot of people want to do.

I was at four hour workweek when it came out, you know, did and that's what really inspired me to stop doing the mail.

So your first book, The Four Hour Work Week, I am curious because I don't know, the word I'm looking for is not fraud, but I'm pretty sure you work many more hours than four hours per week yourself.

Well, the objective of the book for those people who haven't read it, and I'm sure many of the people have not, is to provide you with tools and principles for 10xing your hourly output.

The Four Hour Work Week title was one of 12 titles that I tested on Google AdWords.

And that performed the best of the options that I had.

But the other kind of misperception of the Four Hour Work Week is that, especially because it's got a palm tree on the cover, the objective is not to stare out into space rubbing cocoa butter on your belly for the rest of your life.

We here at the Monday Morning Podcast are huge fans of the Tim Ferriss show which was selected As one of iTunes best of 215.

His show was look how big I'm being right now I could be all upset

The podcast has been downloaded by more than 80 more than 80 million times.

Just visit um forourworkweek.com/tim That's four hour workweek.com f-o-u-r h-o-u-r workweek forward slash t-i-m Jesus, no wonder he's got 80 million

We here at the Monday Morning Podcast are huge fans of the Tim Ferriss Show which was selected as one of iTunes best of 2015.

And in each episode Tim deconstructs world-class performers from every walk of life, business, sports, investing or more to find the tools, tactics, and routines you can use. Favorite books checked, morning routines checked.

Just visit forourworkweek.com/tim.

And there's also Richard Eugene Hitchcock in Cold Blood and of course the Bloody Benders.

He wrote breakfast at Tiffany's in cold blood.

This takes place between like 1958 and 1984 about this writer's life. He was gay and at the time, I guess you couldn't be out but basically he was out as a gay man and he makes friends with the, he seeks out the wealthiest socialites that women just admire, great fashion, great. And befriends them and then horribly betrays them by making up lies about a couple of them but then also sharing their secrets in an article that he puts out without warning or anything.

He needed a research assistant and Lee enthusiastically signed up.

Reportage in a depth we have not seen before.

Oh, he goes shit true The Truman Capote in cold blood okay, and cold blood I'm listening to in cold blood and he read the books Truman did okay

Did he yeah? No the village of Hocum stands at the highway plans of Western, Kansas the local area

Kansas called out there get us a page from In cold blood so high-heeled hats Give us a page Find the first page so I said to my son you're listening to in cold blood by Truman Capote He goes yeah the audiobook I go

Who is reading the audiobook and he's like? Oh, I don't know I can check and then he checks And it's some actor and I said when your dad does odd when I do my books

I read my audiobooks. You know, but I know Truman Capote's not reading this audiobook But maybe I heard him a recording of him reciting this anyway, maybe that's from a reading he did at a college

And it had been 12 years since she'd helped Truman Capote research and write the true crime sensation In Cold Blood.

I have read true crime all my life, since finding In Cold Blood at a used bookstore when I was about nine and reading it, not so secretly.

He chopped her head off slowly. You want to hear it like that? Fine dateline. Go ahead. You can go to the bar, get a crock of it, knock yourself out. But that's not...

Keith Morrison does an amazing job at narrating that horrible shit. Fantastic. But he's not funny. But he's not funny at all. And we're going to do... We're going to horrify you and make you laugh. He's funny for the wrong reasons.

He's funny because his face looks like an old man's nut sack.

But we're going to make you laugh and also we're going to shut up and give you murder here. That's what we'll do. So let's do that here. Let's head on a trip, Jimmy.

And the shotgun from in cold blood I don't want that gun.

And he really did invent this genre. What does he call it? It's truthful. It's written like fiction, but it's a real story.

Yeah. And he did it from, like, the dual perspectives as well, which was so interesting. Right. For a true crime book.

So you get the perspective of the Clutter family and then you get the perspective of Hickok and Perry. And, of course, it's Truman Capote. So it's some of the best writing you'll ever come across.

And one of the things that freaked me out was the randomness of it.

And there are those who say, allegedly, but that she had everything to do with why In Cold Blood by Trima Kapote was such an unbelievably amazing book.

In Cold Blood, one of the most successful true crime novels of all time.

In Truman Capote's book, In Cold Blood, he describes her very negatively, saying that she was riddled with mental illnesses.

I know who she was. Other people don't because of that book.

I'm gonna guess In Cold Blood.

I saw in cold blood a long time ago with Robert Blake and somebody else, one of the most amazingly shot movies.

Well, I guess Truman Capote wrote the book.

I saw in cold blood a long time ago with Robert Blake and somebody else, one of the most amazingly shot movies.

I started watching Capote with the late great Philip Seymour Hoffman. That guy was fucking unbelievable. I was enjoying the hell out of the movie first of all because I saw In Cold Blood a long time ago with Robert Blake and somebody else, one of the most amazingly shot movies.

I saw In Cold Blood a long time ago with Robert Blake And somebody else one of the most amazingly shot movies Well, I guess Truman Capote wrote the book.

I saw In Cold Blood a long time ago with Robert Blake And somebody else one of the most amazingly shot movies Well, I guess Truman Capote wrote the book.

I saw 'In Cold Blood' a long time ago with Robert Blake and somebody else, one of the most amazingly shot movies.

Well, I guess Truman Capote wrote the book.

I saw 'In Cold Blood' a long time ago with Robert Blake and somebody else, one of the most amazingly shot movies... Well, I guess Truman Capote wrote the book.

I have read upwards of 14 books all the Harry Potter's in cold blood and all the like six of the lady comedy autobiographies bossy pants I loved it fuck you

Lina Dunham's book, In Cold Blood, did I already say that? No, In Cold Blood. You're at 11, right? No, seven Harry Potters you listed and of course parts of the Bible.

I have read upwards of 14 books all the Harry Potter's in cold blood and all the like six of the lady comedy autobiographies bossy pants I loved it fuck you

I would take In Cold Blood by Truman Capote and which I have and it's one of my favorite books for real knowledge

I urge anybody that has never read in cold blood to go read this book specifically because of the forensics Capote did such a fantastic job and you know giving such a great description of this horrible scene where this family was absolutely butchered Not too dissimilar from what happened in Piketon only it happened in one single home in Kansas all those years back

In cold blood is a nonfiction novel by author Truman Capote that was published in 1966 It details the 1959 murders of the clutter family in small-town, Kansas

And you might have read this book in high school or have heard of it it's really one of the first true crime stories that people sank their teeth into and I would surmise that any True crime TV series or podcast or documentary Really should give some credit to this one because without it. I don't think the genre would be what it is

There are actually a lot of parallels between the Piketon massacre and the clutter of family murders one at the family aspect Also to the brutality three the victims being shot in the head and just the sheer amount of bloodshed It's chilling for those of you who aren't familiar with the story

A lot of creepy stuff went on with this case. Anyway, he was executed down there Perry who was one of the killers was wearing a boot that had been resold and this boot when you hear this name This this name in forensic parlance. It's a benchmark moment. It's called a cat paw print When he stepped on that box He transferred a print to that box With his boot that had transferred from blood onto the surface and it left that cat paw print

Well, we've all read or heard of the book In Cold Blood. This was cold, cold, cold blood. I mean, this was calculated, planned out. And it just, you know, I mean, it just chills you to think about the calculation that goes into something like this.

I remember the first time I read the book In Cold Blood by Truman Capote.

What's the best novel you ever read? In Cold Blood. I love that novel. It's amazing how evil people could be when you read the Truman Capote novel about these two murderers. I couldn't put it down. I think I read it a day and I was in high school.

There're these amazing books like In Cold Blood and How to Scalcer.

by now you've heard the first episode about In Cold Blood and the podcast serial

The murders of four members of the Herbert Clutter family near Holcomb, Kansas.

Prior to his death, she was interested in reading spiritual books.

And when he died, she just immersed herself in that sort of reading.

The Patty I knew was faithful in her walk with God.

And the other thing I wanna say is, there's this way of where people say, hey, if you're manifesting a beautiful house, you know, the way to secret and manifest stuff is, go look at houses, go get in a car.

Basically a ripoff of the popular but equally worthless book The Secret.

Just read The Secret. You'll get all of this.

And if you haven't read The Secret, you're not thinking in the right way to attract that book to you.

It's a secret. I'm being objective. Everybody's supposed to know about it.

So if you believe in the laws of attraction, like the secret the book and you believe in any of these things

I did believe over that time because honestly, I think what kept me alive was thinking of my wife, My daughter I had that one daughter at that time now I have two, and my mom.

There was even a book, horrible book. It's called The Secret.

I've been a big fan of her books, her work.

I'm talking about Laura Lynn Jackson, the author of these two incredible books, The Light Between Us and Signs, The Secret Language of the Universe.

If you haven't read these books, I highly recommend you grab a copy right now.

And in fact, this book is in some ways the antithesis to a book you may have heard of called The Secret, which was popular several years ago, which promoted this narrative.

And this is, as I said, the antithesis of this. This is more about how can I be of service and by doing so actually manifest the things that I need, which is oftentimes in contrast to what we think we want.

It was all about what I want, I, I, I. And this is, as I said, the antithesis of this. This is more about how can I be of service and by doing so actually manifest the things that I need, which is oftentimes in contrast to what we think we want.

And it was all about what I want, I, I, I.

And this is the problem for people. Many people will sacrifice everything to achieve the goal and then have left a lot of lives destroyed, ruined, and unhappiness in their wake.

I genuinely believed at the beginning that we were watching a movie based on the book The Secret.

It's a French film based on a Japanese film.

It's a French movie based on a Japanese book that became a film that then became a French movie that was released in the United States.

It is a French movie based on a Japanese film.

It's a remake of a Japanese movie by a Frenchman.

You know, I started reading like The Secret, The Four Agreements.

I started reading like The Secret, The Four Agreements.

can we find out how much those guys make hasn't one of them written a book like the secret to success

I always talk about the secret, you know, about the secret and manifesting things.

I'm wearing my keep dreaming work the secret sweatshirt

You're reading about the secret and you're like I'm just going to manifest all my priorities and my money and it's like wait how did you make yourself make yourself dumber over the last couple of years what happened

you're reading about the secret and you're like I'm just going to manifest all my priorities and my money and it's like wait how did you make yourself

And it was also as I started to prepare this, this question that James Weldon Johnson raises in the book that you gave me from 1925, A Book of Spirituals, you know, about who wrote this music, that there must have been Bard, that there were great artists at work.

That there must have been Bard, that there were great artists at work.

That question that James Weldon Johnson raises in the book that you gave me, from 1925, A Book of Spirituals, you know, about who wrote this music?

Y'all don't own a copy of the secret, huh?

Oh my god, the secret is real

I gotta do the vision right, scissors. He went and did shit.

So I'm that's the secret. We're gonna do it as a TED talk

the secret okay. So anyway, yeah. Where's Tony Robbins?

She gave me this book called The Secret.

If you haven't heard of The Secret, it's a very popular book at that time. It's still very popular. That is basically an introductory book to the law of attraction.

And in that book, they talk about the power of visualization and basically what they call the law of attraction, which is where you paint a vision in your head over and over and over again. Eventually the vision becomes a reality.

The secrets is fucking terrible book, to be completely honest. Um, it's like, it's like not even an appetizer for what the law of attraction really is.

you can't vibe your way there yeah you can't the law of attraction is not going to get it's bullshit yeah the only way

Manifesting, you know, I read The Secret when I was like 17 and I felt like that shit works.

I learned a lot from a book called the secret.

I've watched the secret. I've read all these different books.

bestselling author featured in The Secret.

The Secret went on to become a movie that has impacted more than 500 million people.

I interviewed Marie Diamond from The Secret. ... I also interviewed Michael Beckwith. He was in the movie The Secret with her.

I got a copy of the autobiography of Malcolm X and it really reignited my ambition.

The Autobiography of Malcolm X, Where Do We Go From Here by Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson, The New Jim Crow by Michelle Alexander, Freedom is a Constant Struggle by Angela Davis, The Man Not by Dr. Tommy J. Curry.

I grew up reading stuff like... Message to the Black Man by Elijah Muhammad, autobiography of Malcolm X, you know, yeah, great book called From N****s to God.

I'm reading Mark Wing, a biography about Malcolm X

I think he was holding like a Malcolm X book at the time.

What's your favorite part of the book so far, LeBron?

I don't know. I just haven't got through it yet.

It's like no shit, dude. You didn't pay attention at all.

I mean his, the autobiography of Malcolm X is one of the craziest things they'll ever read.

It's very accessible. I really recommend anybody throughout there, especially if you're a young guy, go out and read that.

Malcolm had some real struggles in his early youth and if you're trying to get disciplined or try to change your life, reading that book no matter how you feel about racial issues because it's really not what he's been about at all is going to be really important to you.

I mean his, the autobiography of Malcolm X is one of the craziest things they'll ever read.

It's very accessible. I really recommend anybody throughout there, especially if you're a young guy, go out and read that.

Malcolm had some real struggles in his early youth and if you're trying to get disciplined or try to change your life, reading that book no matter how you feel about racial issues because it's really not what he's been about at all is going to be really important to you.

I mean his, the autobiography of Malcolm X is one of the craziest things they'll ever read.

It's very accessible. I really recommend anybody throughout there, especially if you're a young guy, go out and read that.

Malcolm had some real struggles in his early youth and if you're trying to get disciplined or try to change your life, reading that book no matter how you feel about racial issues because it's really not what he's been about at all is going to be really important to you.

I mean Dick Gregory wrote a whole bunch of books on this type of shit, right?

All praises due to Allah that I moved to Boston when I did. If I hadn't, I'd probably still be a brainwashed black Christian.

All praises due to Allah that I moved to Boston when I did. If I hadn't, I'd probably still be a brainwashed black Christian.

LeBron James was reading the autobiography of Malcolm X and like there's all these big LeBron is like one of the fakest people that's ever lived.

The sports reporter quizzed LeBron James several years ago on what he had learned so far from reading the autobiography of Malcolm X.

It was I mean, it is amazing.

I kind of just started a couple days ago But I've read and a lot of a lot of notes over the years it's my first I'm actually reading this from start to finish but just a very Very smart man very very very smart man and

I kind of just started a couple days ago But I've read and a lot of a lot of notes over the years it's my first I'm actually reading this from start to finish but just a very Very smart man very very very smart man and

Basically his words in the 60s and what was going on Is actually what's going on today still? It's like kind of hard to watch right? It's painful

I kind of just started a couple days ago. But I've read and a lot of a lot of notes over the years it's my first I'm actually reading this from start to finish but just a very Very smart man very very very smart man and

After reading the autobiography of Malcolm X at age 15, Malcolm brought me into knowledge of self, brought me to Islam, schooled me on the black radical tradition.

I have been utterly speechless and spellbound by the graciousness I see displayed all around me by people of all colors from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and the non-white.

American needs to understand Islam because this is the one religion that erases from its society, the race problem. You may be shocked by these words coming from me. But on this pilgrimage, what I have seen and experienced has forced me to rearrange much of my thought patterns previously held and to toss aside some of my previous conclusions. I have always kept an open mind which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.

You know, do I have your Malcolm X is remarkable?

I have been utterly speechless and spellbound by the graciousness I see displayed all around me by people of all colors from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and the non-white.

American needs to understand Islam because this is the one religion that erases from its society, the race problem.

My pops...He gave me books like the autobiography of Malcolm X which led me down a rabbit hole wanting to know everything I could about the NOI, but also any book that I saw Malcolm X reference I read it, you know

I always tell people all the time start with the autobiography of Malcolm X

Lawrence Fishburne read autobiography of Malcolm X

You know he gave me books like The Autobiography of Malcolm X which led me down a rabbit hole of wanting to know everything I could about the NOI but also any book that I saw Malcolm X reference, I read it you know and I've always done that.

always tell people all the time start with the autobiography of Malcolm X

Dave Brinney's Malcolm X book. So Lakers star still on that first page.

but like when i read Frederick Douglass' story or Malcolm X's story i much more relate to that coming of age story than i do hold in coffee old who seems like a little bitch to me basically uh like hold it like a rich kid going to private school you know like uh i had no conception of what that experience was but then this other person who you wouldn't so by increasing the representation some people are maybe reading Frederick Douglass and going he looks like me i'm empowered by that but also by making things diverse you're matching experiences between people who maybe on the surface don't look or seem alike at all

I've been saying it since I was a young man. Our issues in this country are profound, and at the core of them is the relationship between black people and white people. It just is. We have yet to resolve that.

And I think Frederick Douglass had it right that power concedes nothing without a demand. It never has and it never will. Remember, the first spoiler parties were labeled as such before the Civil War and the spoiler parties were those who were fighting for the abolition of slavery.

I just finished reading The Autobiography of Malcolm X, and I'm still reeling from it.

That book just makes you question everything you thought you knew. It was a heavy read.

He's a woke virtue signaller to such a degree that he pretends to read books about Malcolm X. You've probably seen this clip before, but honestly, it's just too good to not share again. Here it is. ... So you're holding the autobiography of Malcolm X along with Alex Haley.

He's read the Godfather, the autobiography of Malcolm X.

So you're holding the autobiography of Malcolm X along with Alex Haley.

It's my first time actually reading this from start to finish.

But just a very, very smart man. Very, very, very smart man. And basically his words in the 60s and what was going on. It's actually what's going on today still.

He talked about the importance of being not just not racist, but an anti-racist, right? And making sure that you're a positive force for social change.

Read How to Be an Antiracist.

There's a book called How to Be an Anti-Racist with Ibram X. Kendi.

There's a book called how to be an antiracist with Ibram X Kendi.

At one point Ted Cruz was a kind of you know psycho pervert Ted Cruz picks up he starts denouncing Ibrahim X Kendi's book anti-racism, you know how to raise an anti-racist, baby

I actually read some of his books before he even became a thing quote unquote during 2020. I remember thinking he was totally nuts at the time and continue to stand by that.

I read the book by Kendi, how to be an, I think the predecessor to how to be an anti-racist, where he advocates for the Department of Anti-Racism and the Constitutional Amendment and history of his view of anti-racism.

I've always thought he's a cancer on the society and Nicole Hannah Jones, all of them, far before Black Lives Matter.

It was the first time. I remember, this is the most trash book.

All class concerns are downstream of race.

Every genderqueer bookstore in this country has his book buried at the front row, and billionaires have flooded this man with money to continue his important work.

it's not enough to not be racist. You must be actively anti-racist.

Every genderqueer bookstore in this country has his book buried at the front row.

It's not enough to not be racist. You must be actively anti-racist.

It would all be funny if millions of people had not bought this idiot's book and shoved it down their children's throat.

For a while in this country, as I said, you couldn't even go into a bookstore or Barnes and Noble without seeing How to Be an Antiracist or Antiracist Baby prominently displayed.

The collapse of the Kendi Center, the wasting of millions of dollars. It's the latest casualty of the BLM movement.

So obviously Mr. Kendi became a bestselling author during the BLM protests of 2020. He's the proponent of how to be an anti-racist, massive bestselling books. Really the inventor of kind of anti-racist ideology going back about a decade.

I actually read some of his books before he even became a thing quote unquote during 2020. I remember thinking he was totally nuts at the time and continue to stand by that.

I actually read some of his books before he even became a thing quote unquote during 2020. I remember thinking he was totally nuts at the time and continue to stand by that.

What I saw very much is like a racialized view. I've always thought he's a cancer on the society and Nicole Hannah Jones, all of them, far before Black Lives Matter.

It's like one moment we can behave racistly and another moment we can behave anti-racist. We have to redistribute the ratio so that it is overwhelmingly overwhelmingly where we're wearing the anti-racism identity in our lives more often than we are the racist one.

Right, so it's a great grift and it's a multi-billion dollar grift now where if you work for any fortune 500 company then they have to come in and you have to have a consultant show up and every campus has 300 people working in that department and then they need to get paid but the real insidious part is You have to find something if you're put on a campus and you're being paid to find termites cockroaches and or racism Eventually got to show up with some something in your bag Otherwise, we don't why we pay me 250 K a year

What's this real? His real name is Ibram Henry Rogers. You would people know him. He was the one who wrote how to be an anti-racist

Kendi a national a book award-winning author course how to be an anti racist Nobody read it. They just bought it. Nobody read it Andrew W Mellon professor in humanities and a history press or a DB be you found at the Center three years after he founded the anti-racist network Kendi talked to be you did it. My hope is that

Now what people will find interesting is we keep saying that anti-racism is in fact racism and I want to give a quote from Kendi's book now this book is How to Be Anti-Racist and he says this the only remedy to racist discrimination is anti-racist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.

What these ideas are saying is discrimination is a good thing if it's applied to the group that is the oppressor and in this case it's going to be white kids at our public schools.

He just should have taken the anti out of the title. He would have accurately titled his own book.

Kendi says that the answer to past inequalities is present inequalities, that the answer to past prejudice is present prejudice.

They teach patina love. They teach Ibram X Kendi. They teach Robin D'Angelo.

They were like, nope, we are all Ibram X. Kendi, you know, acolytes now.

It may be not exactly part of the core mission to have the military read Ibram X. Kendi's How to Be an Antiracist.

Admiral Michael Gilday, chief of naval operations, bristled when he was questioned about why they're having the military read even Rex Kendi's 'How to Be an Anti-Racist'. They're having the sailors read that just as General Milley defended it as well.

So no, right. So it's like the push by the Biden administration, the Democrats right now in Congress is not to push civics, they want to push this far left agenda.

And the two things that were mentioned were the 1619 Project and the teachings of Ibram X. Kendi.

You see it everywhere from the Smithsonian institution describing the phrase objective reality or objective truth is white supremacy.

white terror is as American as the stars and stripes.

Hey, Ibram X. Kendi, let's talk about your book. I don't believe in it. I think you've made mistakes. You've been sloppy. Let's talk about it.

And he won't debate Coleman Hughes, a 24-year-old guy who's done his homework because he's afraid.

Dr. Kendi's next book, which I'm sure you've all heard of, How to Be an Antiracist, is a brilliant look at how we dismantle the structures that racism creates.

The rule goes on to cite and praise the New York Times landmark 1619 project as well as the work of critical race theorist Kendi as leading examples of the sort of ideas the Biden administration wants to spread.

The idea that the anti-racist book by Kendi would be something that you would want in the system.

I think the double standard is really the point and I think a lot of times conservatives point out the double standard and they kind of express outrage but this is really the wrong tactic I think the point of the double standard is that these people hold the institutional power so the reason that Ibrahim Kendi can get away with this stuff or Nikol Hannah Jones can get away with this stuff is precisely because they are protected by the institutions they're in a way the key holders to this power

He's written many books on racism.

The one he's really known for right now is how to be an antiracist and in effect that means you should be a modern racist.

He also wrote Stamped Racism, Antiracism and You. He wrote Stamped From the Beginning, the history, the definitive history of racist ideas in America.

He says literally any system that generates racial inequality is a racist system.

And if you are complicit in the system by doing things like hard work and individualism, you're an assimilationist. This is what Ibram Kendi says in how to be an anti-racist.

I latched onto it, slid into his DMs and asked if I could do a young reader's version because it's important that young people have the tools.

So creating a text like How to Be a Young Anti-Racist, we're giving them information where they're learning these definitions, they're learning what racism actually is.

I did it with page turners. I listened to audiobooks. So whatever, you know, the latest Harry Potter novel or Hunger Games novel that I was listening to, I just wanted to know what happened next.

So I think she was probably just like what the fuck is Rachel doing with Bryce Hall, but the thing is is people's choices, like people's choice. It's about pop culture. Yeah, which does involve and it like brings the numbers up, right? Like a lot of the most viewed glam bots and different things were influencers of you that I think the most viewed Lambo that they posted was you, if that's true that's such a lie.

You think he'd be more in like our area. Like I thought he would do a little closer to Bryce and that's what she said. So I think she was probably just like what the fuck is Rachel doing with Bryce Hall.

He was with Rachel's egg like he was literally at the Hunger Games table and I kept thinking myself like how the fuck did he end up there not no shade to Bryce Hall, but like Hunger Games.

And I lost, yes, I was like that was my mission of the night was like I have to meet Rachel. You were being so funny, you were like going on and on and on about the Hungry Ames and how much you love the Hungry Ames and Brianna chicken fry was like she said something to you. Don't me, I don't like musicals, I said your life is a fucking musical like you popped on her for a second. I was like, no, I mean, you don't like musicals you're dating the songbird of our generation. They're so cute. They are, but doesn't matter. All I wanted to do with meet Rachel, and I made it my life's mission, and I looked for her every like every single break that would be you, there's like 30 seconds that you can like walk around and then you have to sit down or someone takes your seat at the people's choice awards just trying so hard to meet her and then I was like, oh I just give it up, and low in the hold at the after party I'm standing next to the chicken sliders and she's just wandering around alone. Well, not alone with her boyfriend, her also very talented boyfriend, who plays Syjaneis in Hunger Games, oh my god, I had to, I went up to them and they were so fucking nice and I was like that is absolutely amazing. I do love that we did I'm spending like our entire night at the people's choice awards with Natasha betting field which was so iconic.

Oh my god, I had to, I went up to them and they were so fucking nice and I was like that is absolutely amazing. I do love that we did. I'm spending like our entire night at the people's choice awards with Natasha betting field which was so iconic.

I would say the lightest thing that I've read is probably the newest Hunger Games.

Okay, but that's because everyone was like you got to read it and I did and they were like dude you did it.

If you want to read books, read the Hunger Games books, because those books are great.

They're so bad after the first three.

Book three is not great, but it is still all three books of Hunger Games are a billion times better than the Twilight.

But the one book series that I read every single book devoured and loved all the movies was The Hunger Games.

I do feel like they were really great visually like connected with the book.

And that was the only time I've ever said that the book was better than the movie. Because there's just so much more in that world when you read those books than what happened in the movie, especially because in the first one, they didn't have the budget, I feel, to make that movie the best they could have.

Later, they got a little bit more money and they were able to look a little bit better. But I just felt there was so much more in that first book that I was like, oh man, it did really live up to my expectations.

She has published more than a dozen books, non-fiction and fiction, which span from her bestselling memoir Hunger to the Marvel comic series World of Wakanda.

I've been starting to like read again. I think it like helps my head a little bit, but uh when I was younger. I love the hunger games books

a few of these are the Color of Earth series by Kim Dong Hua and the Reasons Why, nudity, sex education, the Hunger Games trilogy.

A few of these are the Color of Earth series by Kim Dong Hua and the Reasons Why, nudity, sex education, the Hunger Games trilogy.

the Hunger Games trilogy.

And we have this symbol like three fingers from Hunger Games, I think. Yeah. So that's like our symbol for democracy now or our movement now.

The rules of The Hunger Games are simple. In punishment for the uprising, each of the 12 districts must provide one girl and one boy called tributes to participate.

It was a fabulous book for this study, I think, because it's so addictive. Once you get into it, it's just impossible to put the book down because you desperately want to know what happens.

Happy Hunger Games and may the odds be ever in your favor.

The Hunger Games is next on my list.

I did it with page turners. I listened to audiobooks so whatever you know the latest Harry Potter novel or Hunger Games novel that I was listening to I just wanted to know what happened next. So I'm rushing to the gym time is flying while I'm there.

I went to one of the other went to the Hunger Games I read that trilogy of books or whatever the fuck that is

I went to one of the other went to the Hunger Games I read that trilogy of books or whatever the fuck that is

Oh, well, let's see I had beers. I fucking worked out. I watched football or whatever the fuck you did I went to one of the other went to the Hunger Games I read that trilogy of books or whatever the fuck that is

But then I'm like, eh, I'm talking from my perspective as an American. Like if you saw the Hunger Games-

I feel that way too though. Like why would you wanna destroy everything? And humanity is so beautiful. Cause you know the, did you see the Hunger Games?

The Never Games. The Hunger Games.

I have not read The Hunger Games books or seen The Hunger Games movies.

Producer Allie read all three Hunger Games books.

I guess they are good.

In the hunger games books, the upper class have like implants and they look almost feline.

What was the name of actor Josh Hutcherson's character in The Hunger Games?

Peter.

That's because Amy made us film the stupid Hunger Games.

Let's just say people were banging on the windows.

Lunchbox, what was the name of actor Josh Hutcherson's character in The Hunger Games?

Peter?

Correct

I read Hunger Games I loved it is awesome. So good

Suzanne Collins is the author of what young adult dystopian book series turned movies in the 2010s?

Has to be Hunger Games

So I finally went to the theater and saw the ballad of songbirds and snakes, which is the Humber Games sequel. And I read the book in 2020, but I guess you know 2020, 2021. It's all blur.

So that was good though, because I didn't have that feeling of like, oh, the book is so much better, you know? I just thought it was amazing and awesome and I would watch it again and I give it five songbirds out of five.

I finally went to the theater and saw the ballad of songbirds and snakes, which is the Hunger Games. Yeah. Requel. And I read the book in 2020.

But I guess you know, 2021. It's all blur. Yeah, it's all like, it's not real. I don't really even, I didn't remember much. So that was good though, because I didn't have that feeling of like, oh, the book is so much better.

We're entering into a brave new world as Albus Huxley would write back in the 1950s.

And it's not one that we should delight in or celebrate.

Well, I've read Brave New World too. Not the script of the new Captain America movie. But that kind of gives you the other half of the picture where we're just... You know, we're dopamine freaks. We're looking for our next high and just going day to day. You know, looking for Soma.

Well, in the book Brave New World, I think they called it talkies or whatever. But like in the future, everybody's going to be on somas. And the content that they would watch was basically like pornography with explosions, like basically out of the movie Idiocracy.

It's a drug in Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

To Han, the far more accurate literary example of a dystopian future that resembles the world we're in is not Orwell's 1984, but Aldous Huxley's 1932 book called Brave New World.

But he said alongside that vision, there's this other dystopian vision, the technology, which is the eldest Huxley vision of Brave New World in which control is not established by banning books but by creating a world of so much amusing ourselves to death and the world.

What are we going to, what are we going to take some Soma and scream orgy, porgy and fuck each other next?

It's like the Brave New World book by Eldus Huxley. You know that book, right?

It's like the...Like how about by 2040? It's like the fish or the train the fish. Exactly. So the cat now sacrifices long term happiness.

Brave New World by Huxley, insensitivity, nudity, racism,

Brave New World by Huxley, insensitivity, nudity, racism,

Brave New World by Huxley, insensitivity, nudity, racism,

Brave New World by Huxley, insensitivity, nudity, racism, To Kill a Mockingbird, like we mentioned, Harper Lee's classic because of offensive language and racism.

Brave New World and Ireland, right?

Brave New World is the more famous of the two.

Brave New World, Brave New World, it's really up there with 1984 in terms of its notoriety. It is one of the quintessential dystopias.

It's set several hundred years into the future.

Brave New World, it's written before Huxley had psychedelics. It was like his version of drug use is so different in that book, it's more like a pacifying drug.

I read Brave New World in high school, but I have not read Ireland.

It is like one of the quintessential dystopias.

They say things like by Ford's name and that kind of thing, you know?

They don't do like genetic, um, like coding, whatever. They just, they do a chemical concoctions in those sort of test tubes.

It is really interesting that that, he changes what drugs do in his books. After he starts doing them.

It is the more famous of the two. I don't think a lot of people have heard of Ireland compared to Brave New World. Because I mean, Brave New World is like... I read Brave New World in high school, but I have not read Ireland.

And it's like, it really says a lot about society that we read about the dystopias, but not the utopias.

But anyway, Brave New World, Brave New World, it's really up there with 1984 in terms of its notoriety. It is one of the quintessential dystopias.

It's set several hundred years into the future. Unlike 1984, which took place several decades ago, Brave New World was set in 2540 CE. So yeah, we're several hundred years Star Trek times.

But however, in the book, it isn't called 2550 CE. It's called 632 AF. AF standing for after Ford, because in this world, and I'm sure we'll get into this a bit, Henry Ford, the assembly line guy, the Model T guy, he is basically God. He is the God of their world, you know?

It is the more famous of the two. I don't think a lot of people have heard of Ireland compared to Brave New World.

It is like one of the quintessential dystopias.

They say things like by Ford's name and that kind of thing, you know?

It is like kind of like what's happening today, you know, in terms of the Greek alphabet.

And like they are literally conditioned, you know? So like in the factory, in the baby making factory, which is in this case, literal and not a euphemism for the womb.

Aldous Huxley in 1948 cited research that suggested an inverse correlation between intelligence and fertility.

Basically, Huxley was pointing out that like intelligent people have less children and he called for a world population policy.

I think enhancements, I think rich people buying better jeans for their kids than poor people is a horror that we have to avoid just like in Brave New World or Gattaca and I think editing out the diversity of our species.

I think enhancements, I think rich people buying better genes for their kids than poor people is a horror that we have to avoid just like in Brave New World or Gattaca.

Michael and I today did a book podcast on Aldous Huxley's Brave New World and not fitting in, I have to say particularly after discussing that this afternoon, not fitting in maybe about as high a compliment as one can give to an individual in this brave new world who dares think for himself.

It features prominently in Brave New World, which is what so happens we were discussing.

Two of the great dystopian works of the 20th century were Huxley's Brave New World which is actually this what you're just describing and the other of course is Orwell and interestingly it's you know if at that time I thought we may go this way or we may go that way but it never occurred to me that we would actually go both ways so we're now getting a hybrid of Huxley and Orwell so Orwell says that the police state is a boot stamping on a human face right and we have some of that and this is what I do in the film I want the ordinary citizen to see that because Americans have a great difficulty getting their heads around the fact that that could happen here but the Huxley part of it is another way a police state lulls a citizen into sort of complacency it's like we'll give you manufactured experience now manufactured experience is not real experience in the sense that it's not the real thing I mean living your life with a real woman and going through all that has a texture and complexity that an E girl friend or even a porn video cannot supply but Tim's point is what if you don't know that what if you think that this porn experience is actually sexual experience this is romantic experience I've got a girlfriend why would I want a real one this one never complains this is what's going on you're forgetting one name as well or just or well or Huxley.

You'll own nothing. You'll have no privacy, but you'll be happy. I mean, that dates back to the 1960s when you had Aldous Huxley saying, basically, they'll put you in a position where you ought not be happy, but you'll be made happy when they literally are releasing dopamine. So you're sitting there on like a and, you know, this is the 1960s version, but you're sitting there on an assembly line. You should be like miserable. Like, God, this is awful. But instead, you're like, this is the best thing I've ever. This is the most fun I've ever had is putting together these car parts because they're literally activating the pleasure center of your brain as you're doing this.

And now we are on the cusp of a new world that is both brave to quote Aldous Huxley and strange.

and of course Brave New World in 1984.

Read the book. I remember read I read Brave New World. I was in sixth grade.

Yeah. I mean, oh, it's happening, man. It's happening. Right now.

And everybody knew that everybody, you know, you and I were raised reading Orwell and Alex Huxley and, you know, Robert Heinlein and Alex Anderson, and all of these other books that were part of classical literature that was taught in every American classroom.

This month's book, Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

It is impossible to read Brave New World and not see the entire leftist agenda implemented in action.

One of the big questions about Brave New World is what exactly would the left oppose about that Brave New World these days?

That's one of the themes of Matthew Perry's book.

But when he was a kid, yeah.

He can kind of trace it back to...He was medicated early on.

He talked about it in his book that he used ketamine in rehab to get over his physical pain and things like that.

In his 2022 memoir, Friends, Lovers and the Big Terrible Thing, Perry claimed to have been to rehab 15 times, detox 65 times, and spent about $7-9 million trying to get sober.

It's like that Bible verse, Matthew chapter 18, verse six.

Like she's Cody from serves up Streisand's autobiography follows on the heels of books from celebs like Viala Davis Jeanette Mercurdy, Matthew Perry, Pamela Anderson, Jada Pinkett Smith, Britney Spears and of course Prince Harry

According to his 2022 memoir, He spent at least seven million dollars on treatment and had 65 stints in detox beginning at the age of 26.

one of the things he said was that he wanted more than anything, his legacy to not be friends, but to be the fact that he got sober and helped other people get sober.

as Maureen Callahan wrote up in a great piece that's posted now, his greatest performance was not on friends. It was as a newly sober good guy who just wanted to help others get clean.

I met her two years earlier at another rehab where she had been working at the time.

I didn't get sober back then, but I saw how wonderful she was in every way and promptly stole her from the sober living rehab and made her my assistant.

She too understood the nature of addiction and would come to know my struggles better than any doctor I'd ever seen.

You know, I was reading the Britney memoir as soon as it came out last week. And I kept thinking about Matthew Perry because at this time last year, I was reading his memoir and columning on his memoir and his, his memoir struck me as so much more candid than the average celebrity memoir.

the amount of trauma and physical debilitation and pain and the sheer consumption, not just of drugs, but alcohol. And, you know, he was a three pack a day smoker, which I forgot about. I didn't know that. You know, just the, what he put his body through and that he was still even alive. And that book to me felt like, I mean, talk about a legacy play that book to me felt like I may not live much longer. And this is the thing I want to be remembered for not being on a sitcom, not being the sort of Gen X icon, but trying to help other people who are as tormented as I am.

And he says in the book, like I would give everything up if I could just not feel the way I feel about myself.

his book has now overtaken hers on the Times bestseller list.

But I would sometimes say a line and they wouldn't laugh and I would sweat and and just like go into convulsions. If I didn't get the laugh I was supposed to get.

when I die I don't want friends to be the first thing that's mentioned I want that helping other addicts to be the first thing that's mentioned and I'm going to live the rest of my life proving that

I would like to be remembered as somebody who lived well loved well was a seeker and his paramount thing is that he wants to help people that's what I want

Your disease is just outside, just doing one-arm pushups, just waiting, just waiting for you, waiting to get you alone. Because alone, you lose to the disease.

And now I finally feel okay and feel like I've got some strength.

He spent nine million dollars on addiction, 14 stomach surgeries, 15 rehab stays, therapy twice a week for 30 years and then he bought all the dope, the booze you can buy.

He wrote a book about it. He talked about it.

Everything I've learned about Matthew Perry I've learned in the past 48 to 72 hours.

He talked about his relationship with his dad. He talked about that and all that. And like you said, I heard that on the news.

That book was something else.

I thought it was quite a gripping book. I thought it was very honest.

he spent I think he said he spent seven million dollars trying to get clean and just couldn't.

you could tell what were or I was in my addictions by what I look like on the show. If I was heavy, it was alcohol. If I was skinny, it was pills. And if it was skinny with a goatee, it was lots of pills.

Last year, he wrote a bestselling memoir detailing his own struggles with addiction. Its title was Friends, Lovers, and the Big Terrible Thing.

Oh, yeah. We just came out with a book, actually. Really? Interesting. Okay. Yeah, like a memoir.

You know what fucks me up is Rachel McAdams did Mean Girls and The Notebook in the same year.

Rachel McAdams did Mean Girls and The Notebook in the same year.

And she was 22.

You have the outsiders, great Gatsby, the notebook, water for elephants of those four.

I think I got to see the notebook.

I've never seen the notebook actually all the way through the movie, but I would love to see it. I'm sure it's an emotionally apparently you have to bring a lot of tissues to the notebook.

Jess and I as friends, which she was one of those very possessive friends, all we would do is sit in her room, listen to love stories, watch the notebook, watch A Walk to Remember, like watching all of these lovey-dovey movies.

I started to wonder and I would say this is like the real moment I started to wonder like Do I have romantic feelings for this guy? like is this actually more than just like a casual hookup in Boston not not even a hookup. I think I just was like could we be friends with him?

It's basically the notebook. I was so aware.

Oh, you know what it is? It's the notebook. Remember? Because there's nothing wrong with James Marston in that. It's like, why wouldn't you marry him? But then Ryan Gosling is like...

If after is the notebook this is the Fifty Shades of Grey

So essentially just imagine what I picture is the notebook house. Have you seen the notebook?

I have.

It was like spring. Like you felt like you were in the notebook.

In the notebook or in some sort of western film.

The Notebook Review: A Musical Tearjerker, or Just All Wet

Watch the notebook today. Hey, stop what you're doing. Watching this. Well, if really it was brought to you by the 2003 movie The Notebook.

I don't know when it came out.

In spirit.

A bomb in these post 9-11 years, The Notebook.

That's roughly right, I don't even remember what, what must be, is it this, what war is it? Was it World War II?

No one's ever going to sit there and build you a fucking house while you're married to some other dude.

I was building this house waiting for you. I put my whole life on hold.

It's a terrifying glimpse into female psychology.

Weren't they in the war? Wasn't World War II? Wasn't Ryan Gosling a Nazi or something?

He wasn't a Nazi. He built an all-white house for the girl.

Meanwhile, wasn't the other guy a burn victim? War hero or something?

Gosling was a Nazi. The other guy was an American war hero. In the notebook?

Look it up. See what Ryan Gosling fought for. What side of World War II was Ryan Gosling on?

There's no way he was a Nazi, dude. You'll see. I can't believe this. Guarantee it.

That would be so nice if that was the case. He was so nice. He was sitting there building that house. Keeping it a secret. He didn't want you to know.

He was a Nazi. He was a damn dirty Nazi. No, he was not.

I was just interviewing this guy who wrote a really good book called The Notebook. But this version of a notebook, like this form is like the 1400, something like that.

Oh my god, they are like- Wow. Oh god. I love your grandparents. I feel like I'm watching The Notebook.

Nicholas Sparks is one of the world's most beloved storytellers.

All his books have been New York Times bestsellers.

with over 105 million copies sold worldwide in more than 50 languages, including 75 million in the United States alone.

Sparks wrote one of his best known stories, the notebook.

OK, so I guess he puts out a lot of product.

Nicholas Sparks, not movies. You fucking cunt.

Nicholas Sparks is one of the world's most beloved storytellers. All his books have been New York Times bestsellers.

All of his books have been New York Times bestsellers with over 105 million copies sold worldwide in more than 50 languages, including 75 million in the United States alone.

Sparks wrote one of his best known stories, the notebook.

OK, so I guess he puts out a lot of product.

Well, who the fuck is Nicholas Sparks that he shits out models?

He's a novelist. What the fuck?

Nicholas Sparks is one of the world's most beloved storytellers.

All his books have been New York Times bestsellers.

OK, so I guess he puts out a lot of product.

The Notebook. Oh, way overrated.

You're like a terrible person. Seeing him have financial power and control over somebody as his, quote, employee was deeply disturbing.

I also wonder Charles Dickens got the idea from maybe Lazarus who's asking, or the rich man asking Lazarus to go warn my brother so they don't come to a place like this. Well, Marley gets to do that to Scrooge and he says, your chain was this long seven Christmas Eves ago and you've labored on it since.

The film Scrooged is a play on a Christmas Carol about a TV executive who forces the entire network to make a live Christmas show.

No. The Bill Murray version of the Christmas Carol?

A Christmas Carol wasn't his first Christmas story but it was such a hit that like Mariah Carey re-releasing All I Want for Christmas Is You, each year afterwards there was pressure for Dickens to keep supplying festive material.

His other Christmas stories, The Chimes, The Cricket on the Hearth, The Battle of Life, The Haunted Man and The Ghosts' Bargain.

How many other books have been adapted hundreds of times for film and TV?

It was published on the 19th of December 1843 and by Christmas Eve it was already sold out.

Dickens did public readings of the book in Britain and the US until his death in 1870.

In fact, it's thoughts of Marley that begin Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol.

Marley was dead, to begin with. There was no doubt whatever about that.

Scrooge and he were partners for I don't know how many years.

Scrooge was his sole executor, his sole administrator, his sole assigned, his sole friend, and his sole mourner.

And even Scrooge was not so dreadfully cut up by the sad event.

if you've ever seen a Christmas Carol, you know, Charles Dickens, when Marley's ghost first appears in several iterations of the play and the teleplay and that sort of thing, Marley has a kerchief tied around his head.

Well, that's one of the things that they used to do because if you didn't, the body would develop what's referred to as the osan. The mouth looks like an O okay, and that's because the jaw opens and then it freezes and certainly during Victorian times that was considered improper.

He thought Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol was a book of fucking Christmas carols.

He's like a Charles Dickens character.

Mr. Scrooge, I presume. Indeed you do, sir. Scrooge, of course, was a character in Charles Dickens' famous story, A Christmas Carol.

It was about a waltz by Strauss. I was like, goodbye.

It was fucking crazy. What was the question? Also it was... What was the spelling of Ebenezer's spirit?

It was like, what is the correct spelling of the protagonist of A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens?

They gave four different spellings of Ebenezer and I believe I'm repeating myself with this story on the podcast.

It was one of those things... It's so hard though. It was one of those things where it leaves your mouth and you're like that's wrong but I'm still doing it.

It was about a waltz by Strauss. I was like, goodbye.

Also it was... What was the spelling of Ebenezer's spirit?

It was like, what is the correct spelling of the protagonist of A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens?

They gave four different spellings of Ebenezer and I believe I'm repeating myself with this story on the podcast.

It was E-B-E-N-E-Z-E-R and E-B-E-N-E-E-Z-E-R. I think it's the one-E right?

inspired by Dickens' classic novel, A Christmas Carol

inspired by Charles Dickens The Ghost of Christmas Past Present and Future

Charles Dickens who kind of went there first before other novelists thinking about the Christmas past, present and future.

Brian, what kind of time travel did in all of your variants, did Charles Dickens invoke for Christmas past and future?

It's a charming fairytale about a spoiled prince that strongly reminded me of A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens.

One of the things I've been one of the two Trump books you're kind enough to mention, I'm not going to forget which one I reminded people of the last scene in Charles Dickens, A Christmas Carol.

Seasonal for this time of year where he's visited by the spirit of Christmas future. And Ebenezer Scrooge asks, are you an image of things that will be or things that maybe?

It took Dickens just six weeks to write the story which is one of the most adapted things; of the first 6,000 copies he only made a profit of 137.

to A Christmas Carol and Dominic here we are just before Christmas.

written and published in December 1843 by Charles Dickens. The same the same year apparently as Christmas cards were first sent.

probably the most adapted story in English maybe in the world. Yeah, apart from the nativity itself.

it kind of brilliantly riffs on that without making it too obvious. I think it is also fairytale quality to that absolute fairytale quality.

it explains why it has remained so successful - its mix of Victorian social commentary and timeless fairytale elements.

The Grinch, a Christmas Carol, Die Hard, Home Alone, and National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.

Oliver Twist. Yeah. Great Expectations. My favorite. And a Christmas Herald.

A Christmas Carol is now available for pre-order order yours on Amazon or wherever you get your books today.

When it came out in 1843, A Christmas Carol was a sensation and Charles Dickens became a legend.

Some people would consider him the originator of Christmas or the inventor of Christmas.

When it came out in 1843, A Christmas Carol was a sensation. And Charles Dickens became a legend. Some people would consider him the originator of Christmas or the inventor of Christmas. The past, present, and future of Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol.

When it came out in 1843, A Christmas Carol was a sensation. And Charles Dickens became a legend.

Some people would consider him the originator of Christmas or the inventor of Christmas.

On the next episode, John Steinbeck immerses himself in the lives of migrant workers in California, elevating their stories in books like The Grapes of Wrath and Of Mice and Men.

What's your Lenny of mice and men?

I take you out to the river. Yeah, shoot you in the back of the head

He's like Lenny from Of Mice and Men. You think he might crush the cat or crush Sharon Stone I don't know.

They have read over 300 books, including The Maze Runner of Mice and Men and Harry Potter, and have invited many guest authors to speak at their meetings.

are you Lenny from of mice and men?

I did a production of Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men

Of Mice and Men.

Have you ever seen that with- Which one? The one with Gary Sinise and John Malkovich as Lenny?

And John Steinbeck, of course.

in 1989 Of Mice and Men was banned in Chattanooga because Steinbeck was well known for his anti-business attitude.

And John Steinbeck, of course.

Yeah, in 1989 Of Mice and Men was banned in Chattanooga because Steinbeck was well known for his anti-business attitude.

And John Steinbeck, of course. Yeah, in 1989 Of Mice and Men was banned in Chattanooga because Steinbeck was well known for his anti-business attitude.

He says that it's what would have happened if H.P. Lovecraft rewrote Of Mice and Men, which is pretty awesome.

Of Mice and Men. What's the Cannery Row one?

Cannery Row of Mice and Men. Of Mice and Men, man.

Have you ever seen that with- Which one? The one with Gary Sinise and John Malkovich as Lenny?

And then John Steinbeck, of course. Yeah, in 1989 Of Mice and Men was banned in Chattanooga because Steinbeck was well known for his antibusiness attitude.

Wait, he kept a glove on for his wife and mice and men.

You're like of mice and men.

That's how you're painting me within 10 minutes of this. You're Lenny in of mice and men.

I mean I'm dying back. I'm mad. I'm so if a person it like does a level of intelligence Absolve someone of their evil actions. I wonder if it does. That's an interesting.

I say no does evil require intelligence I do not think so. I Think whether

I guess was Lenny evil

And he did a Of Mice and Men thing.

And instead I said you know sometimes he just makes me feel like George Milton who's from of mice and men and it was just like you know the only way to describe him is you know he was the equivalent to journalists of what Gomer Pyle was to Marines in full metal jacket.

It's the Lenny and George antibodies. Exactly. The Lenny and George antibodies. Of Mice and Men.

Oh, sorry, Lenny, Lenny, I'm sorry. Sorry. John Steinbeck.

But they want to eliminate Of Mice and Men. But Lawn Boy, a book containing explicit passages of pedophilia, is somehow accepted as being OK.

But they want to eliminate Of Mice and Men.

If our book is Phantom of the Opera. Yeah. I've never. I don't know. I'm the Phantom. Yeah. And I'm the opera. You're Christine. I can't be the opera? Because I love you, but I can't really have you. Oh, but I really, really want you. And I want to capture you and bring you down to my layer and hold you captive and sing you songs. But in mice and men, that big guy, what was his name? Do you guys remember?

But in the book, I don't know if I read it, but does he kill mice in his hands? I don't know if I read it. The book. I don't know if I read it. Okay. What are the chances that you read it then? I think I read it because I think I distinctly I distinctly I can't even say the word. I distinctly remember.

Lenny kills Curly's wife because of his inability to control his own strength and emotions. But he does have a mouse as a pet. Oh, he doesn't kill it. Yeah, it's like his friend. Oh, it's his friend. My bad.

Okay, so To Kill a Mockingbird is one of the books that has been most banned in the United States of Mice and Men as well.

There's a very famous book called Of Mice and Men. First of all, anybody read that in college or high school? No. I think we're supposed to.

So John Steinbeck wrote it. And so he was late turning the manuscript in because the original manuscript that he wrote his dog ate it.

our greatest plans of mice and men - what is it? Best laid plans of mice and men may not matter if you get hurt.

I was there for a while and I did a production of Steinbeck's of Mice and Men.

compared him to the mentally disabled character from Of Mice and Men.

You could do it for of mice and men with Lenny and George and he shoots them in the head at the end of it

I was going to say, is it even going to be funny? For some reason, when I said George, I just thought of mice and men. I'm tapping out.

My mom, Marion Robinson said we are here as parents to raise individuals and we have to be thinking along those lines.

We will always like you here.

I knew she always would have my back.

And we had no money. My parents didn't go to college. They didn't have networks. They didn't have any of that, but they had that enoughness, that enoughness in themselves to be confident that what was going on at 74, 36 South Euclid was just as powerful as what might have been going on in the White House or somebody else's nicer house. That our world was secure because we had love and respect for each other.

To me, that's a better tool than being hurt or being afraid or shying away from the negative things in the world inevitably has waiting for our kids out there in the world.

If you'd like to learn more about Michelle Obama, we recommend Becoming by Michelle Obama and Michelle Obama Alive by Peter Slevin.

I picked up Michelle Obama's book somewhere in the middle of writing mine and she's talking about how she couldn't get alone or a mortgage, this was in the 70s, without her husband.

And actually, I didn't know this, but when Michelle Obama wrote Becoming, she says that like on her first date, Barack Obama used that line.

Well, that's a beautiful way to start because I introduced my dad in Becoming. But this book allowed me to really dive into the lessons that both he and my mom have taught me that keep me upright.

I talk in Becoming about the decision I made to walk away from a very lucrative corporate law career to work in the city and then nonprofits.

And as I said in Becoming, we are always evolving. The journey, that evolutionary process never ends.

Michelle Obama's book Becoming excellent just read that

I can admit now that I was driven not just by logic, but by some reflexive wish for other people's approval, too.

This may be the fundamental problem with caring a lot about what others think. It can put you on the established path...and keep you there for a long time.

Maybe it stops you from swerving, from ever even considering to swerve because what you risk losing in terms of other people's high regard can feel too costly.

There's a beautiful section in Michelle Obama's new book Becoming. If you haven't read it, it's incredible. I recommend it that I think resonates really clearly here. I'd love to share with you the following are her words, not mine.

I can admit now that I was driven not just by logic, but by some reflexive wish for other people's approval, too.

This may be the fundamental problem with caring a lot about what others think. It can put you on the established path. The my isn't that impressive path and keep you there for a long time.

Maybe it stops you from swerving, from ever even considering to swerve because what you risk losing in terms of other people's high regard can feel too costly.

Michelle Obama's book, great book, great fucking book. Matter of fact, I talked to her, I've been in the same rooms. I've seen her success. What is her book going to be about? Mm-hmm. We'll read a book, wow. I get it. I get why it's moving all the units that it's moving. I get why women are reading this book and walking away feeling better, feeling like they can, I get it, oh wow.

I've had the honor of talking with former First Lady Michelle Obama a couple of times and one of the conversations we got into and that she talks about a lot in her book is the complications of, you know, she came from South Side of Chicago, but her parents were aspiring for her to have a better life and they put this sort of, I think, emphasis on her speaking well and studying hard.

And she remembered getting flack for that because she was saying, you know, she talked about that. She talked about getting flack for it's almost like trying to, I don't know how to put it, but trying to aspire to move up into this culture and then you realize how complicated that can be.

I got the book, Becoming, and I expected to learn a lot about you. I didn't expect to relate to as many things as I did in the book.

There's so much in your book that is about, and this is something that's a little bit of a religion for me, something that I'm religious about, which is people have a tendency to look at someone who they believe has made it and they don't understand everything it took for them to get there.

And it is amazing to me that, I mean, and then there's little details in there like you were 70s television, 1970s television. Mary Tyler Moore.

So there's a moment, there's so much in this book, I read the book and you talk about these time that was, you worked so hard. You have worked so hard in your life.

And I think that you've earned the right to go sit in a car right now and have some fast food and then go binge watch Sex and the City or whatever it is you want to do.

They're Instagram influencers at their best Michelle Obama's doing arena tours for her book, Becoming.

At their best Michelle Obama's doing arena tours for her book, Becoming and I don't begrudge them.

I read the preface of her autobiography 'Becoming' and I almost it was like nails on a chalkboard that I was reading that Michelle Obama microwaved a grilled cheese.

And I was like, no, no. You're an image.

I read the preface of her autobiography 'Becoming' and I almost it was like nails on a chalkboard that I was reading that Michelle Obama microwaved a grilled cheese.

So I don't know if you've read her book 'Becoming'

She said it was one of the most pivotal moments in her life because she goes to her college counselor, they're talking about what she wants to do, she says she's going to apply to Princeton and her counselor says you're not Princeton material and she says I'll show you

She thought so much of herself she called her own memoir becoming, becoming double entendre, get it? That she's hopeless?

And she said it wasn't until her husband was nominated for president that she'd ever felt proud of her country.

Secretary Robert Gates wrote about it. First Lady Michelle Obama wrote about it twice in her book, Becoming Michelle sent me a handwritten note on how much it moved her.

I didn't know it was a documentary. That was just a book she twice donated to Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign.

Michelle Obama won one, I think about two years ago, and that was for her memoir Becoming

people are banning Michelle Obama's books in Texas right now.

One parent even asked the district to remove a biography of Michelle Obama, arguing the book promotes reverse racism

I can't believe these people want to ban a Michelle Obama biography

Michelle Obama's book a lot of them aren't reading it. They just buying it because it helps her.

I listened to the Michelle Obama audiobook of becoming and there were so many words I was like oh is that how you say that like I always said indie fatigable and learned it was like indie fatigable or something

If you read between the lines of Obama's book and Michelle Obama's book, there's some pretty brutal admissions of Obama being like, I'm running for office and Michelle's like begging him, like, please don't do it.

largely on the basis of her 2018 book, Becoming, which sold 17 million copies worldwide.

And then she wrote this very popular book Becoming all about her American journey.

I started reading books about people, memoirs, autobiographies, about people who had done extraordinary things... It was everything from Shoe Dog by Phil Knight to Bird by Bird by Anne Lamont to Becoming by Michelle Obama to Open by Andre Agassi.

I got the book Becoming and I expected to learn a lot about you.

the last chapter of the book in Becoming is Conan is Resilient.

I'm so proud of the new book and I'm so excited about it. And congratulations for getting it out.

I feel like I never really could have anticipated in my life before now to be a person banned from entering Russia.

Same.

I'm saying exactly getting the handoff from somebody who is banned from entering Russia.

We're both banned. We can't do our shows. We're currently in the same studio. We can't do our shows in Moscow. So we know that. Let us never take spring break in Siberia together, Jen. We can't. We can't.

The book of the prophet Isaiah chapter 11, the shoot from the stump of Jesse and the peaceful kingdom.

The book of the prophet Isaiah is hit after hit. I mean, it's so good.

Overall, when you're looking at the book of the prophet Isaiah, it is both before the exile and during the exile, right? Now Isaiah is, he's primarily a prophet to the South, right? He's primarily a prophet to the kingdom of Judah.

Now remember back in second Kings and in second Chronicles, we had Isaiah. Isaiah was present and he was present there with King Hezekiah when Hezekiah had to face down the Assyrians.

As we might've noted is the book of the prophet Isaiah can kind of sort of be divided into, we'll say two main sections. Some people divide it into three. We're gonna divide it into just two main sections. The book of condemnation, you might call it the book of woe, yeah, book of woe, we'll call it book of woe and the book of consolation.

So the book of woe would be from chapters one to 39. So you guys, for the next number of days, we're gonna stay with that book of woe and it's gonna be that kind of stuff of just come back. Why aren't you repenting?

And then after that, from chapter 40 to chapter 66 to the end of the book of prophet Isaiah, we're having the book of consolation where there's so much consolation going on of like, yes. So God has not abandoned you.

In fact, chapter 11 begins with this incredible, chapter 11 and 12, but chapter 11 begins with this consolation. What's it say? There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse and a branch shall grow out of his roots.

And so even in the book of woe, we have this consolation and even more consolation because right after that, it says, and the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord and his delight shall be in the fear of the Lord.

Remember when Jesus goes into the synagogue in Nazareth, he enrolls the scroll and he teaches and he proclaims from Isaiah, but it's Isaiah chapter 61. So 50 chapters from here that Jesus quotes from where he says the spirit of the Lord is upon me.

And we realize that the spirit of the Lord here in chapter 11 is the same spirit of the Lord prophesied in chapter 61 and is the same spirit of the Lord that is upon Jesus as he is preaching and proclaiming the good news to the people in Nazareth.

Reverend White was reading from the book a loop to a tall drunk trucker about the puke he had John 316 memorized trying to dry his ass out to get him baptized.

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For instance, when you come to the Book of Moroni, you're not going to find a single and it came to pass. Not one because there's no storyline. It's one of those amazing internal consistencies.

The Bible dictionary is a treasure. Look up the meaning of names and Isaiah, the ya at the end of all those names of so many characters in this time period is Jehovah and the Lord is salvation is the meaning of Isaiah.

We have this chapter in our old Testament, but here Nephi is talking to his family.

We have changed our area code, but we are still the covenant people and we still have a covenant obligation and a covenant promise.

They're going to reinterpret Scripture, reinterpret Isaiah and other places according to their experience.

That's really important to understand because they're seeing themselves as part of the scattering, but they also want to understand Isaiah and not just the scattering, but part of the gathering.

Whereas Isaiah is gathering back to the land, there's this realization that they're never going to come back to this land.

Now they're looking for their gathering in another land and trying to understand it.

So, like when you read 2 Kings, right? When you read the Bible, like sometimes you can get a Bible on your phone where it'll put the reference and it'll show you, oh, this is also recorded in this other book and that will give you a different point of view. Or this is quoted by Jesus or Jesus is quoting Isaiah, right?

So, I was clicking around and I found how Isaiah's book, which is, you know, written about many events and different kings that he prophesied to has what Hezekiah wrote after he recovered.

He says, and this is Isaiah 38 verse 17, Surely it was for my benefit that I suffered such anguish.

Surely it was for my benefit that I got a new house. Surely it was for my benefit that I got a promotion. Surely it's for my benefit that God gave me the child.

And he starts pouring out his heart to God, not when he was still sick, but after he was made well. So, it's another example of going back. Oh, back. Going back. Yeah, he's going back and he's looking at what he went through, through the experiences of what he learned because he went through them.

In Isaiah 40, verse 31, they that wait on the Lord will renew their strength. They will mount upon wings like eagles. They will run and not be weary. They will walk and not be faint.

You know what verse 28 says? I have to show it to you. It says, 'Do you not know? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary. In his understanding no man can fathom.'

It's kind of like Isaiah 55, where God says, As high as the heavens are above the earth, so are my ways above your ways and my thoughts above your thoughts.

Then he took me all the way back to Isaiah, who said, 'My ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts are not your thoughts.'

One of my favorite passages is the one in which Jesus is quoting Isaiah or reading from the book of Isaiah when he says that the spirit of the Lord is upon me because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor, to open the eyes of the blind, to set the captives free, to preach the year of the Lord's favor or the year of the Lord's freedom.

And then Pomerantz wrote a book about it, which frankly isn't helpful because by Pomerantz writing a book, now Jim Jordan is able to argue, well, you wrote a book about it. So now you can't testify.

We shall realize the prophecy of Isaiah. There will no longer be stealing at your borders and your gates will be of glory.

Including the new Speaker of the House, which we'll get into specifically with that reference to we will fulfill the prophecy of Isaiah.

But it also without coming out and directly saying it is an indication of the entire land from the river to the sea, as they said, should be our land.

For those who are Christians, I'm sorry. I didn't grow up Christian. You know, I don't know anything about the Bible or the prophecy of Isaiah or whatever.

It is why evangelical Christian groups often make pilgrimages to Israel because it's described as like the final battleground.

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for everything I know about perceptual psychology there's a great book called Vision as a oh god now I can't remember the name of the books that's a memory trouble I'll remember it

We're used to pointing that out in Isaiah. We have these prophecies that come, the destructions and then the blessings.

He's going to be beckoned to eat a book and it's a bittersweet book.

And then another one is called called the Vision of All, 25 lectures on Isaiah in Nephi's record, really bless your life in understanding the book of Mormon,

I don't know if there's a better way to describe the Lord than Isaiah got there in Isaiah 61.

Because Dan Brown wrote a book about that after the Da Vinci Code.

What is that book that I can't think of? The Da Vinci Code. Thank you, Stephen.

You know what you're thinking of that you're right. But you're thinking of my favorite book ever written, The Da Vinci Code, which is Mary Magdalene that Mary Magdalene was Jesus's wife and that there that the that the arc of the covenant.

Not the arc of the covenant. The Noah's Ark. Holy Grail. Sorry. Yeah. The Holy Grail is actually Jesus's child. Oh, that's that. That it's a symbol. OK, so basically there's a there's a bloodline of Jesus's family on Earth.

And you said Da Vinci Code. I said the Da Vinci Code.

Anyone who has right now if in your mind piece of trivia you have my favorite book is The Da Vinci Code. Sorry Dan Brown we're not doing that today.

I almost said, um, the Da Vinci code simply because Dan Brown put so much shit into that.

Like there's so many things. There's like different parts. I'm like, you're reading a bunch of, I've never read it, but a bunch of books.

He just, he just went and he was like, what is the densest plot I can put into this book?

What is that book that I can't think of? The Da Vinci Code. Thank you, Stephen.

She there's a book never mind. She I know I'm not gonna remember it. It's called the dictionary What's that book DaVinci Code That's it. That's there it is

And you said Da Vinci Code. I said the Da Vinci Code.

Sorry Dan Brown we're not doing that today.

I almost said, um, the Da Vinci code simply because Dan Brown put so much shit into that.

Like there's so many things. There's like different parts. I'm like, you're reading a bunch of, I've never read it, but a bunch of books.

He just, he just went and he was like, what is the densest plot I can put into this book?

What is that book that I can't think of?

The Da Vinci Code.

She there's a book never mind. She I know I'm not gonna remember it. It's called the dictionary What's that book DaVinci Code That's it. That's there it is she's charged with the murders and of Mary Mickelson who was 60 Christina Mickelson who was 87 and Angelina Thompson who was 84

I think it does relate to history. I can't believe that the Dan Brown novels aren't real.

I think enough time has passed. Hey, if you're listening and you don't want to be spoiled for the Da Vinci Code, now is the time to crash your car.

JK. But the spawn of Jesus Christ exists and is the Holy Grail. What?

I dropped out by the time Inferno came. Hello.

Symbology is not real. It's a made up thing from the Da Vinci Code.

So we had a list of 82 books that had been pre-rated as extremely tempting and difficult to put down once you get engaged. So these are books like The Da Vinci Code and The Hunger Games.

In his novel Da Vinci code Dan Brown cites the 14th century execution

What the fuck was the name of that? Da Vinci Code

I can't remember if that's the one that actually has all those pagan symbols that you know the Catholic Church then said that they were devil signs according to the fucking Rosetta Stone or whatever that fucking movie was I read the book too what the fuck was the name of that Da Vinci code whatever it was called

In his novel Da Vinci code Dan Brown cites the 14th century execution

What the fuck was the name of that? Da Vinci Code

In his novel Da Vinci code Dan Brown cites the 14th century execution

I read the book too what the fuck was the name of that Da Vinci code whatever it was called

In his novel Da Vinci code Dan Brown cites the 14th century execution

What the fuck was the name of that? Da Vinci Code

What the fuck was the name of that? Da Vinci Code

Yeah, I remember the DaVinci code was a big deal Yeah, with Tom Hanks Was it good came out?

I'm talking about some dude who's like The like that guy from angels and demons or the da Vinci code, you know, like a tom hanks type guy who's like I have tracked the knights temple. Oh, I know all the revelations and like donald trump and I'll be like, whoa

We're rebooting Dan Brown book adaptations.

How are you gonna replace Tom Hanks in anything right Tom Hanks?

it's like rebooting this series that no one actually really cares about it just makes no sense to me

They're not doing the Da Vinci Code, but they're doing like the newer books or the prequels

Oh my God, Miss Patrick, how far are you in the Da Vinci Code?

Da Vinci code don't write back to us but sorry, that's a terrible book. I read that in college and I thought it was so fascinating and then I was like oh it's not real.

When I was probably 35 and it was just one of the most gut off old childish books I've ever read. I'm like oh are you kidding me? Come on.

Da Vinci code don't write back to us but sorry, that's a terrible book. I read that in college and I thought it was so fascinating and then I was like oh it's not real. When I was probably 35 and it was just one of the most gut off old childish books I've ever read. I'm like oh are you kidding me? Come on.

I just remember going oh my gosh this is all real and now I look back and I'm like I wasn't that young when I thought that was all real.

Da Vinci code don't write back to us but sorry, that's a terrible book.

I read that in college and I thought it was so fascinating and then I was like oh it's not real.

When I was probably 35 and it was just one of the most gut off old childish books I've ever read.

I'm like oh are you kidding me? Come on.

It's called 'The Alchemist,' by Paulo Coelho. It's about this young man who's basically, you know, he's got to make a big decision in his life.

When you're in the middle of something, you're in your own little bubble. The book kind of made me look at life from a wider lens.

The album Santiago is inspired by Paulo Coelho's Alchemist.

If you haven't heard of, I mean, you have to have heard of this book. Everyone's listening. If you haven't, it's a legendary book by a legendary author.

So Boogie is my best friend put that book in my hand when I was probably 17, 18.

And crazy books to read at that age.

And I was instantly like, it became like a Bible for me, you know?

It's like "The Alchemist" by Paulo Coelho where you end up going all the way back around to just stick to your words, say things that you believe are true, do hard things when you can.

Don't forget the Alchemist.

He put me on to Napoleon Hill. He put me on to the Alchemist.

The Alchemist.

The Alchemist, which I think is one of your favorite.

I think it comes back to the treasure in our heart and what's already within us and just discovering that and finding that.

The book that's had the biggest impact on you?

The Alchemist.

It's even if it's you know everything in life it's so true about like being like "The Alchemist" like I even see it with Laird it's like he went out into the world he's done all this stuff and there's certain things we're doing in projects right back onto Kauai.

The parable of the Mexican fisherman, if you've heard the story a couple of times you remember what it is, you don't need to hear the story again. You just hear the parable of the Mexican, oh yeah, of course it's the guy that over complicates his life and ends up coming back to the place where he began. The same stories you get in the alchemist by Paulo Coelho, etc. etc.

I just read Paulo Coelho's The Alchemist as well. He was like the first book I'd read in probably a decade.

So I was kind of in this weird out-of-body experience for a good chunk of that time where all of these things were going on and there was story lines or whatever and all I was thinking about was this guy. If anyone's not read the Alchemist by Paulo Coelho, there's this young shepherd boy going on a journey of self-discovery trying to find out who he is and that really, really spoke to me at the time.

There's a word that he learned from you that there's a redemptive power to make a choice rather than feeling like you are an effect of the things that have happened to you. And he said, I believe I can create whatever I want to create.

When the alchemist was published in America. Well, of course, a foreign author who is this guy with such a difficult name to pronounce who will you.

And then one day I was in Portugal and I saw Bill Clinton with the book. And as my God, the president of the United States of America has my book in his hand.

So when my book went for the first time to the New York Times best-selling list, even after so many celebrities just talk about it, I'd like to take a just opportunity to thank my readers in America because thanks to them.

And you've written that your pilgrimage, your original pilgrimage was set in motion when you were participating in a small Catholic order that included some work with the nine magic.

There's a word that he learned from you that there's a redemptive power to make a choice rather than feeling like you are an effect of the things that have happened to you.

There's a redemptive power to make a choice rather than feeling like you are an effect of the things that have happened to you.

When you want something, the whole universe conspires to help you.

When the alchemist was published in America. Well, of course, a foreign author who is this guy with such a difficult name to pronounce who will you.

And then one day I was in Portugal and I saw Bill Clinton with the book. And as my God, the president of the United States of America has my book in his hand.

So when my book went for the first time to the New York Times best-selling list, even after so many celebrities just talk about it, I'd like to take a just opportunity to thank my readers in America because thanks to them.

And he said, this is what he said. He took away and it's a absolute paraphrase of the things you say.

There's a word that he learned from you that there's a redemptive power to make a choice rather than feeling like you are an effect of the things that have happened to you. And he said, I believe I can create whatever I want to create.

I came home from dinner with friends one night and I logged into Facebook and someone had quoted the book The Alchemist.

Die Dinge, die mich am meisten beeindrucken, sind Bcher, die mein Leben verndert haben. Einer davon war der Alchemist. Ich wrde gerne glauben, dass ich den Hood-Alchemist geschrieben habe.

She gave me the Alchemist by Paulo Coelho. Oh, yeah. Uh huh. I'm sure you've read Alchemist.

there's a sentence in the book that says whenever you want something, the whole universe conspires in having it.

She gave me the Alchemist by Paulo Coelho

There's a sentence in the book that says whenever you want something, the whole universe conspires in having it.

It's like The Alchemist by Paolo Coelho. He could have just come back and in the yard outside of where he first started.

I like Paulo Aquila books a lot. And he's famous for The Alchemist, but he's written a bunch of other little side quest books. I read Hippie recently and I thought, I don't know what this guy looks like.

you gave me the alchemist

The Alchemist. It's a great book. It's a fable. I've read it. I read it every time I'm trying to make a significant change. You know, I've probably read it six or seven times now. It's an easy read too.

As I get farther into the journey, I keep going back to, you know, the book The Alchemist.

And I was obsessed with this book, The Alchemist, during my entrepreneurial journey.