Small Town Murder

Like in the David Simon Homicide book, there's this guy, a detective, and he's talking about he spent like six hours in a crime scene, but made all the medical guys wait and everything because something wasn't right about this lady hung herself and something wasn't right about the placement of the slippers.

And he spent like six hours figuring out why it was like that before he could go, OK, it's a suicide.

And before he felt OK about it because he had to figure out, OK, she took her slipper off with one foot and then wrapped the other one.

Well, that's how it fall. But he had to like figure it out.

That's basically the David Simon Homicide book. That takes place in 1988. Wow.

Like I hate to say this, but some of the stuff that happens here, I really wish would have happened a year later because I would have already known about it before when I read about it.

So this is this is fucking amazing. Like I hate to say this, but some of the stuff that happens here, I really wish would have happened a year later because I would have already known about it before when I read about it.

They actually talk about how they had they actually had a murder of somebody at the Inner Harbor and basically it came down from on high that this shit would be solved yesterday. Everyone will get convicted and this will never fucking happen again. And they found that motherfucker that day and around him in the heart and drowned him in the harbor.

They actually talk about that. They actually talk about how they had they actually had a murder of somebody at the Inner Harbor and basically it came down from on high that this shit would be solved yesterday. Everyone will get convicted and this will never fucking happen again. And they found that motherfucker that day and around him in the heart and drowned him in the harbor. Absolutely.

they talk about when they have, in the city at least in Baltimore, they call it a red ball. That is a case that is highly attentive. There are people know about it. The fucking, it's on the mayor's radar. He's saying I want that case solved.

And that's all hands on deck. And every day the mayor asks. Oh no, not just ask. Every day you have to have reports that then go to Europe's superiors who then write reports on that. It goes up the chain. The chief wants to be kept involved.

And that's a completely different thing than just like a drug dealer in an alley. You know what I mean? That's just like, if you find it, you find it. If not, if not. If it's an old lady who everybody loves, we're finding this fucker yesterday.

So that's a big deal. So even a year later, they still have a full time detective on all this, which is insane because in the Homicide book, they talk about an 11 year old girl who was sexually assaulted and killed and left in an alley.

And that was a big red ball. But six months later, three months later, the detective, the lead detective was going back in the rotation on other shit. That wasn't the priority anymore. Like the red ball turns yellow. They'd go back to it after a while.

They talk about that a lot. That's an actual thing. It's becoming clich now, but they actually will put a suspect in the room and let him sit there.

They like to let him stew anyway and get them, you know, get them, let them get scared, let them get worked up.

But they want to see what they do. Yeah, because if he goes to sleep, that's your guy.

They all say that because a man who's caught goes to sleep because they're like, I'm caught. They go to sleep. Now I can rest.

I always talk about the David Simon Homicide life on the street.

They used to do this back in Baltimore. The Homicide book they talk about they would drive down the street to whatever the detectives with the shaft soundtrack.

If you read, I brought this book up before the Homicide. The Year on the Killing Streets by David Simon, who's the guy who made the wire and made Homicide life on the street and all that shit. He wrote a book where he followed the Homicide department of Baltimore in 1988.

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She was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef.

But this story didn't end with a happily ever after.

When I stepped into the kitchen, I could see that Chef Brophy was on the ground and I heard somebody say, call 911.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries.

So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife Nancy, we weren't that surprised.

The first person they look at would be the spouse. We understand that's usually the way they do it.

But we began to wonder, had Nancy gotten so wrapped up in her own novels... There are murders in all of the books.

that she was playing them out in real life?

She was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef.

There are murders in all of the books.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries.

There are murders in all of the books.

Nancy was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef, but this story didn't end with a happily ever after.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries. So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife, Nancy, we weren't that surprised.

But we began to wonder had Nancy gotten so wrapped up in her own novels. There are murders in all of the books.

Follow Happily Never After Dan and Nancy on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Nancy's love story could have been ripped right out of the pages of one of her own novels.

She was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef.

But this story didn't end with a happily ever after.

When I stepped into the kitchen, I could see that Chef Brophy was on the ground and I heard somebody say, call 911.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries. So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife Nancy, we weren't that surprised.

I got that in the mail and I can't fucking wait to read.

The book is so much better than the movie.

Like the book is real fun. The movie's so whiny.

It's so fucking whiny though, the movie.

The ending in the book actually makes sense.

The ending in the movie you're like, what happened there?

The book is so much better than the movie.

Like the book is real fun. The movie's so whiny.

It's so fucking whiny though, the movie.

The ending in the book actually makes sense.

The ending in the movie, you're like, what happened there?

The book is so much better than the movie.

The book is real... The movie's so whiny.

It's so fucking whiny though, the movie. That's the thing.

The ending in the book actually makes sense.

The ending in the movie you're like, what happened there?

if you like read Mindhunter and read like a profiler's do this. It always happened near this. There's always the number one, the pressure thing.

Like if you listen to Mindhunter with John Douglas, now it's a TV show or now it's a Netflix show. That's really good. But if you, if you look at, if you read the Mindhunter book, they go into the details about the Speck interview and it was a D he had to depersonalize it.

That's what he always calls it. He always says, if you want to find the artist, look at the art.

The Bible.

he that cometh to me shall never hunger and he that believeth in me shall on me shall never thirst.

She said some neighborhoods out there are straight out of Steinbeck.

It's a little Steinbeck-y.

She said, "Some neighborhoods out there are straight out of Steinbeck." She's like, "It's just a fucking disaster basically."

She's calling literary references. That's unbelievable. That's fucking awesome. Unbelievable.

This isn't from the 1800s. This is now they're talking about. Now it's a good place to hide from an ex-wife that wants fucking alimony. Or the law or civilization. And we'll get to in our story, that's the reason why they're here. Really? Oh, this is great. That's why we're making a point of this now. What a quote.

I think that Steinbeck might have a point. I'm just saying that now. That looks nice. Steinbeck's onto something. Now he moves in, in Three Points.

I think that Steinbeck might have a point. I'm just saying that now. That looks nice. Steinbeck's onto something.

1996, the movie Thinner, uh, was based here. It's Fitz filmed in Kittery. I'm sorry. The Stephen King novel is based on that.

I was filmed in Kittery. So if you want to know what Kittery looks like, watch a Thinner and you'll see the movie.

Really? Yeah. He, that's a crazy movie.

Investigators find a book inside called quote the handbook of poisoning.

Investigators find a book inside called, quote, the Handbook of Poisoning.

Holy shit. She might as well have had a picture of her with an old dying man sticking a needle in and smiling with Mickey Mouse ears on. This is fucking ridiculous. The Handbook of Poisoning? What the fuck?

He chopped her head off slowly. You want to hear it like that? Fine dateline. Go ahead. You can go to the bar, get a crock of it, knock yourself out. But that's not...

Keith Morrison does an amazing job at narrating that horrible shit. Fantastic. But he's not funny. But he's not funny at all. And we're going to do... We're going to horrify you and make you laugh. He's funny for the wrong reasons.

He's funny because his face looks like an old man's nut sack.

But we're going to make you laugh and also we're going to shut up and give you murder here. That's what we'll do. So let's do that here. Let's head on a trip, Jimmy.

And the shotgun from In Cold Blood I don't want that gun.

One of his novels was actually partly set there. I think It was 'It' was partly set there.

They said that the witchcraft book was in plain view and constituted relevant evidence, so they deny that also.

Dan Cummins is a serial killer. I don't know if you know that.

I should leave right now. I'm thankful to have this if you look through my shit and I was the you'd be like oh, he absolutely killed anybody that you fucking think that he killed because all he cares about is murder. It's literally all he has so many reports and this is weird.

The state argues that Mike was not a state of a state agent when he took the phone call from him and incriminating sim statements that Simmons made to his friend were used as evidence without violating his right to counsel because if he was an agent of the state then Simmons would have a right to counsel is what they were saying here.

The court of the witchcraft book Simmons contends the book Witchcraft is the name of the book was illegally seized and should not have been admitted at trial because the book was not listed in the search warrant and neither the plain view doctrine nor the good faith exception applies.

Have you read Harry Potter? I'm going to give you another read.

The former book reminded him of the dystopian youth involved in the murder of Grunwald

I may be maybe like classics like classic literary collections like literature or maybe she means...

No, she probably I'm she probably means like the fucking Iliad and Homer and all that shit.

I barely fucking read Romeo And Juliet last year in school. I don't know any of that. I just still don't understand it.

Actually, I read a book, there stat, but it was something like that.

This is an older alcoholic woman who literally just made a scowl and went fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck for an hour and a half on a school bus.

This was like greatest fucking thing I've ever seen.