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I've written about it extensively in my book, Doing Justice.

It was a commemoration of the publication of my book, Doing Justice in Ukrainian.

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They even invited the prosecutor general of Ukraine, Andrei Kostin, who wrote the foreword to the edition.

In his remarks, Kostin emphasized a point that I make in the book repeatedly, that no matter how just our laws are as written, how just our constitution is as written, at the end of the day, justice is done by people, by human beings.

And we as individuals must do our best to do what's right.

The publication of the book in Ukraine came with its own challenges.

He said at one point that they had managed to edit and translate a third of the book, but then they had to pause in February of 2022.

I read your book. It's really good.

And it was excellent.

who edited my book, Doing Justice at Knopf, and who I talk to all the time.

When my book, Doing Justice came out, I'd go every few weeks and sign copies and talk with the owners.

And that's one of the premises of the book.

When I was thinking about writing the book, I was writing only about experiences that I'd had as the U.S. attorney and as a prosecutor.

And as I've written in my book and other people have mentioned, you know, sometimes it's the case, historically, I'm not saying that's true here, but sometimes it's the case.

As described on the White House website, Uniters are working to bring their communities together across lines of racial, religious, political, and other differences to prevent acts of hate-fueled violence, promote healing where such violence has had devastating consequences, and foster unity.

So I had the great honor of nominating as a Uniter a man named Race Bouillon. The name may sound familiar to some of you because the last chapter of my book, Doing Justice, addresses his story.

I haven't mentioned my book in a while. I wrote a book called Doing Justice.

And I teach a class at NYU Law School that tracks basically the arc of the book.

And I talked about the case in a chapter they read from my book involving a substantial amount of pension fraud that went on at the Long Island Railroad.

Yeah, I remember those kind of issues never stopped you.

And we decided to go forward.

What is clear to me is that there's no slam dunk case that the Manhattan DA's office has without a cooperating witness.

And the reason I talk about that is not to say, well, we're great and EDNY is soft. It's to say these are difficult decisions, difficult deliberations.

As we approach the holidays, a reminder to check out the CAFE merch shop featuring some fan favorites like our signature Stay Tuned hoodie and coffee mug and signed copies of my book, Doing Justice.

As we approach the holidays, a reminder to check out the Cafe merch shop featuring some fan favorites like our signature Stay Tuned hoodie and coffee mug and signed copies of my book Doing Justice.

I got to bring my book to life with Doing Justice, and we brought on four wonderful contributors just this year.

Listen to the entirety of Doing Justice, Preet's new free six-part podcast based on his bestselling book of the same name.

And in particular, when I was writing my own book, you know, three years ago, I was at a conference and someone was asking me what my book was about and how, you know, what the approach was that I was taking.

Listen to the entirety of Doing Justice, Preet's new free six-part podcast based on his bestselling book of the same name.

Doing Justice is my new narrative podcast based on my book and brought to you by CAFE Studios, the home of Stay Tuned.

Doing Justice is the new cafe narrative podcast based on my bestselling book of the same name.

Listen to the first five episodes of Doing Justice, Preet's new free six-part podcast based on his bestselling book of the same name.

Doing Justice is my new narrative podcast based on my book and brought to you by CAFE Studios, the home of Stay Tuned.

Doing Justice is the new cafe narrative podcast based on my best-selling book of the same name.

Purchase the paperback of the bestselling book that inspired the podcast, Doing Justice: A Prosecutor's Thoughts on Crime, Punishment, and the Rule of Law:

This episode is called God Forbid, and tells the story of one of the most extraordinary and challenging cases I oversaw as U.S. Attorney in Manhattan.

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This podcast is based on my best-selling book, Doing Justice, a prosecutor's thoughts on crime, punishment, and the rule of law, which you can find at doingjusticebook.com and wherever books are sold.

Listen to the first three episodes of Doing Justice, Preet's new free six-part podcast based on his bestselling book of the same name.

Doing Justice is my new narrative podcast based on my book and brought to you by CAFE Studios, the home of Stay Tuned.

Doing Justice is the new cafe narrative podcast based on my bestselling book of the same name.

Purchase the paperback of the bestselling book that inspired the podcast, Doing Justice: A Prosecutor's Thoughts on Crime, Punishment, and the Rule of Law:

Doing Justice is my new narrative podcast based on my book and brought to you by CAFE Studios, the home of Stay Tuned.

Doing Justice is the new cafe narrative podcast based on my best-selling book of the same name.

Purchase the paperback of the bestselling book that inspired the podcast, Doing Justice: A Prosecutor's Thoughts on Crime, Punishment, and the Rule of Law:

I hope you'll check it out. Every episode tells a story of some drama and dilemma that we faced in the Southern District of New York.

And in fact, there is an opportunity if you're trying to get the terrorist or any other criminal defendant to flip and cooperate and tell you about their scheme and tell you about their cohorts.

Doing Justice is my new narrative podcast based on my book and brought to you by CAFE Studios, the home of Stay Tuned.

Doing Justice is the new cafe narrative podcast based on my best-selling book of the same name.

Crooked Reviews is referring to a new limited series podcast that's coming out in about a week that's based on my best-selling book, Doing Justice.

Doing Justice starts next Wednesday, January 27th. It's absolutely free, and it has its own feed, so look for Doing Justice and subscribe on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts, like this one.

Doing Justice is the new show from Cafe Studios, based on my New York Times bestseller of the same name.

Hey folks, I'm excited to announce that CAFE is bringing you a new free podcast, Doing Justice, based on my bestselling book of the same name.

while assembling and wrapping Kids' Presents last year around this time, and it was delightful. Well, thanks for listening to the book. It's still available, by the way.

PS, I listened to the audio version of Doing Justice while assembling and wrapping kids' presents last year around this time, and it was delightful.

These are some of the questions and moral quandaries that I wrestle with in my new book, Doing Justice, a prosecutor's thoughts on crime, punishment, and the rule of law. It is also about the stories and timeless principles that can help us understand this moment in history.

Doing Justice came out in March and to the great relief of my mom and dad, it debuted at number four on the New York Times Best Seller list.

So if you enjoyed the book, please consider heading to Amazon and writing a review for Doing Justice.

To learn more about Doing Justice and to order a copy for yourself or your friends, head to doingjusticebook.com.

It's also available as an audio book.

It came out just two weeks ago and to the great relief of my mom and dad, it debuted at number four on the New York Times bestseller list.

Doing Justice is about the stories and timeless principles that can help us understand this moment in history.

I hope you'll order your copy, also available as an audio book at doingjusticebook.com.

I met him when he was appointed to oversee reforms at New York City's Rikers Island Jail and he's featured in my new book, Doing Justice.

These are some of the questions and moral quandaries that I wrestle with in my new book, Doing Justice, a prosecutor's thoughts on crime, punishment and the rule of law.

It came out last week and I'm happy to report that it's been well received, which is a great relief to mom and dad and me.

I hope you'll order your copy, also available as an audiobook, at doingjusticebook.com or any local bookstore.

And I talk about this in my own book, Doing Justice, which quick plug you can all buy now.

I wrote a book. So I'm an author, which I've never been before.

Also, I know that you all got a copy of the book that I signed personally.

I'm very pleased with how the book has been received. I really hope you enjoy it.

It's almost entirely unredacted. So while you wait for the Mueller report to come out, which may or may not become public, read the book over and over and over again.

And as I say in the preface of the book, I had this thought of writing, and as you saw in the introduction, this guide for folks.

As you may know by now, March 19th is a personally momentous day for me. It marks the publication of my first book, Doing Justice.

Writing it has been the hardest thing I've ever done. Harder than any case I've ever tried or any case I've overseen.

The success of a book often depends on early sales. That's why I keep asking you to pre-order, because it really matters.

So if you haven't already, order your copy, also available as an audiobook or ebook, at doingjusticebook.com.

And if you're in New York on March 19th, there are just a very few tickets left to see a live taping of Stay Tuned at NYU's Skirball Theatre, where I'll be interviewed about the book by CBS's Bjarne Golodryga. Every ticket comes with a signed copy of Doing Justice.

Can you send me a signed copy of Doing Justice?

Well with respect to the last question, there's good news. You can get a signed copy of Doing Justice or an unsigned copy of Doing Justice or the audiobook or the ebook. Go to cafe.com slash book and you'll see all the options.

As many of you know, March 19th is a special day for me. It marks the publication of my first book, Doing Justice.

and everyone gets a personally signed copy of Doing Justice.

As many of you know, March 19th is a special day for me. It marks the publication of my first book, Doing Justice.

And what better way to celebrate than with the first Cafe event of 2019, a live taping of Stay Tuned at NYU's Skirball Theater.

You can go to cafe.com slash tour right now for tickets.

And everyone gets a personally signed copy of Doing Justice.

So we hope you'll join us to celebrate the release of my book, Doing Justice, on March 19th in New York City. Head to cafe.com slash tour, that's T-O-U-R, for tickets.

I've written about several of them in my book Doing Justice which you may recall if you've read it.

The other thing I did was I spent more time in front of a microphone and recorded the first half of my forthcoming book, Doing Justice.

Yeah, I talk really, really fast.

It's a pretty long book. I love it.

And then they slow it down and they put it into a baritone. So it'll be more salable.

It sounds great. It sounds great.

the kinds of dilemmas that I wrestle with in my book and in my law school class, what is the right thing to do when you have evidence of misconduct?

Hey, Stay Tuned listeners. On Wednesday, February 5th, I'll be live in New York City with GOP political consultant Rick Wilson to talk about my book, Doing Justice, which just came out in paperback.

And there's lots of different things that are difficult in the life of a judge, in the work of a judge. And we ask them, as I say in my chapter, we ask them to be perfect, we ask them to be real, we ask them to be meticulous, we ask them to be infallible.

I recite a story in my book that hopefully has had some resonance with judges who hadn't thought of this issue before, but in my experience, typically judges in the Southern District of New York address the parties at the beginning of a proceeding.

Not to plug my book again but I'm going to do justice. Available everywhere.

Actually, I write in the beginning of my chapter in the book, Doing Justice, on interrogation. We see image after image and scene after scene of the doomsday clock ticking and torture is the only way to get relevant and important actionable information.

But then as I write in the real world, where testosterone doesn't flow in the streets like a river, people understand that there are better, more effective ways to get information.

And I give these examples in the book as well. You think one minute they're planning to kill hundreds or thousands of Americans and the only way to get them to talk is to be brutal back to them.

So you might recall Donald Trump on the campaign trail back in 2015, who's the consummate example of a person who's trying to pretend to be a tough guy.

There was a detective I used to work with, Kenny Robbins, who when he picked up a narcotics defendant and wanted that person to flip, meaning cooperate against other people in connection with the conspiracy, the way that you use that person for the purposes of law enforcement is you get them to confess what they did and you get them to tell you about what other people did.

As I say in my own book, which has the word justice in the title, justice is a broad and hazy subject. It is one of the most elusive and debatable concepts known to humankind. And disagreements over its meaning have spawned revolutions, religions, and civil wars.

The reason I titled my book, Doing Justice, using a verb, is because justice is something that is an ongoing thing.

Also, before we start, I wanted to thank you. As a friend and colleague, you read portions of my book, Doing Justice, and you provided many instances the sort of smartest edits of anyone.

Hey listeners, I think most of you know by now that I wrote a book. It's called Doing Justice And it's a New York Times bestseller. If you want to learn more about it or buy it head to doingjusticebook.com Thanks for your support

I don't know if you've heard I have a book I don't know if you've heard it was published You should still buy it if you haven't bought a copy but the book tours over summer is coming felt it was time

These are some of the questions and moral quandaries that I wrestle with in my new book, Doing Justice, a prosecutor's thoughts on crime, punishment, and the rule of law.

Doing Justice came out in March and to the great relief of my mom and dad, it debuted at number four on the New York Times Best Seller list.

So if you enjoyed the book, please consider heading to Amazon and writing a review for Doing Justice.

To learn more about Doing Justice and to order a copy for yourself or your friends, head to doingjusticebook.com.

As I say in the book itself, I'd always had this thought of writing something that was a guide of principles that I had thought about when I ran the Southern District.

It came out just two weeks ago and to the great relief of my mom and dad, it debuted at number four on the New York Times bestseller list.

Doing Justice is about the stories and timeless principles that can help us understand this moment in history.

I hope you'll order your copy, also available as an audio book at doingjusticebook.com.

It came out last week and I'm happy to report that it's been well received, which is a great relief to mom and dad and me.

It's at its core about timeless principles that can help us understand this moment in history. It's also a book of stories, stories of the unsung heroes who have dedicated their lives to ensuring that justice is done and have inspired me greatly.

I talk about this in my own book, Doing Justice, which quick plug you can all buy now.

As a first-time author, I've learned that the success of a book can depend on early sales. I hope you'll order your copy, also available as an audiobook, at doingjusticebook.com or any local bookstore.

I wrote a book. So I'm an author, which I've never been before.

So while you wait for the Mueller report to come out, which may or may not become public, read the book over and over and over again.

I really hope you enjoy it.

I think my staff keeps the bad reviews away from me, but they assure me there have not been any so far.

This is a fantastic book. I told you I've read this twice and it's not for somebody who only cares about the law. It's not somebody who wants to go into the law. It's for somebody who's an American citizen and wants to know how you feel about current environment and and laws in general.

As you may know by now, March 19th is a personally momentous day for me. It marks the publication of my first book, Doing Justice.

Writing it has been the hardest thing I've ever done. Harder than any case I've ever tried or any case I've overseen.

The book, I should say, is not just for lawyers. It's for everyone.

The success of a book often depends on early sales. That's why I keep asking you to pre-order, because it really matters.

So if you haven't already, order your copy, also available as an audiobook or ebook, at doingjusticebook.com.

As many of you know, March 19th is a special day for me. It marks the publication of my first book, Doing Justice.

And what better way to celebrate than with the first CAFE event of 2019, a live taping of Stay Tuned at NYU's Skirball Theater.

You can go to cafe.com slash tour right now for tickets, and everyone gets a personally signed copy of Doing Justice.

As many of you know, March 19th is a special day for me. It marks the publication of my first book, Doing Justice.

And what better way to celebrate than with the first Cafe event of 2019, a live taping of Stay Tuned at NYU's Skirball Theater.

And everyone gets a personally signed copy of Doing Justice.

So we hope you'll join us to celebrate the release of my book, Doing Justice, on March 19th in New York City.

The other thing I did was I spent more time in front of a microphone and recorded the first half of my forthcoming book, Doing Justice.

Yeah, I talk really, really fast.

It's a pretty long book. I love it.

And then they slow it down and they put it into a baritone. So it'll be more salable.

We're going to finish next weekend.

The title of the book is Doing Justice, A Prosecutor's Thoughts on Crime, Punishment and the Rule of Law.

The publisher is Knopf.

It will come to pass on March 19th.

It's actually available for pre-sale and pre-purchase now.

If you're interested and you want to get it now, you can go to the following. It's a little bit of an awkward URL, but it's at bit.ly slash Doing Justice book.

I wrote about this in my book, and I will not be able to say it better than I did with respect to how to use humor from time to time to diffuse a situation with a judge.

Doing Justice by Preet Bharara. I know it's a little early for Christmas, but not too early. Still available in paperback. Give it a shot.

What you just were talking about reminded me of something, you know, kind of a searing anecdote in the book cast by Isabella Wilkerson.

And one of the stories she tells, and it's, you know, it's shocking, I think, to many, many ears. She showed up somewhere to do an interview, I think with a proprietor of a business who refused to believe-- this is some years ago-- who refused to believe that this Black woman could actually be a reporter for the New York Times.

I read every page from beginning to end over the weekend, and it had a lot of praise that preceded it. But I found it to be an enormously important work.

Can't put it down.

For me, it was a combination of not just the ideas that you have in the book and the analysis in the book, but also how you string it all together with stories and metaphors.

So it's a magnificent achievement, and I congratulate you.

Many people might rightly say I had nothing to do with how all this started. I have nothing to do with the sins of the past. My ancestors never attacked indigenous people, never owned slaves. And yes, not one of us was here when this house was built.

I've said a number of times here and elsewhere that a book that really made me think deeply about a lot of things and I think is important, I tweeted about it after the election, and I think we want to understand better where the country is, why it is where it is, why some people are so disaffected, and what the structure of inequality comes from in this country. You have to read Isabel Wilkerson's cast.

If you haven't listened to that episode, I would go back and listen to it and then read the book or vice versa. But it's an eye-opening, I know people like to say eye-opening a lot, but it was truly eye-opening.

You have to read Isabel Wilkerson's Cast.

If you haven't listened to that episode, I would go back and listen to it and then read the book or vice versa. But it's an eye-opening, I know people like to say eye-opening a lot, but it was truly eye-opening.

But I think the best answer to your question, or at least one of the best answers to your question, came in an earlier podcast episode when I interviewed Isabel Wilkerson on her book Cast the Origins of Our Discontents.

There's obviously a lot more there in the lengthy book by Isabel Wilkerson, but in a nutshell, that's her response.

It's called 'Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents'. And let me just can I add my small voice to all the waves of praise that you've gotten for the book? I read every page from beginning to end over the weekend and it had a lot of praise that preceded it. But I found it to be an enormously important work. Can't put it down for me.

It was a combination of not just the ideas that you have in the book and the analysis in the book, but also how you string it all together with stories and metaphors. And so I also could not put it down. So it's a magnificent achievement.

Author Isabel Wilkerson's new book 'Caste: The Origins of our Discontents' is a riveting reframing of how power operates in our society. It's been sparking conversations all over the country and for good reason.

It's a powerful and profoundly timely meditation on the way that hierarchies form across societies from the United States to India to Nazi Germany.

There was a book called Bad Blood by John Carreyrou, reporter for the Wall Street Journal, and it was Wall Street Journal reporting, I think, that led to a federal investigation of this woman and her former boyfriend, Elizabeth Holmes and Sonny Balwani, who in the indictment are charged with, between the two of them, having a child.

She was the subject of a book called Bad Blood, multiple documentaries, other podcasts as well.

So I interviewed John Kerry Roof for the podcast as well. His book, Bad Blood, which was terrific.

John's latest book is called Bad Blood.

It's all about Holmes and how she fooled people for years with a promise that she would revolutionize the healthcare industry.

In Bad Blood, Carreyrou explains how she got away with it for so long and how she was eventually exposed and is now charged with federal crimes.

I just finished reading your book in the nick of time for this interview Bad Blood it is a fantastic read it goes by really fast so I want to congratulate you on the success of the book and largely I want to talk about this massive fraud that was unfolding you know basically in the public eye but you're the one who really got to the heart of it based on you know really sharp investigative reporting work that you did.

You should read it.

So I interviewed John Kerry Roof for the podcast as well. His book, Bad Blood, which was terrific.

John's latest book is called Bad Blood. It's all about Holmes and how she fooled people for years with a promise that she would revolutionize the healthcare industry.

She felt strongly that the cause that she was pursuing was a noble one therefore all the cheating along the way to get there in her mind I think was perfectly justifiable because the cause was so noble.

I just finished reading your book in the nick of time for this interview Bad Blood it is a fantastic read it goes by really fast so I want to congratulate you on the success of the book and largely I want to talk about this massive fraud that was unfolding you know basically in the public eye but you're the one who really got to the heart of it based on you know really sharp investigative reporting work that you did.

His book is Bad Blood. You should read it.

Bill joined me in April of last year to discuss his latest book, Freezing Order, a true story of money laundering, murder and surviving Vladimir Putin's wrath.

If you have read my friend Bill Browder's most recent book, Freezing Order, he recites at great length and in great detail efforts to disqualify a judge from hearing his particular case and that actually happened.

Freezing Order: A True Story of Russian Money Laundering, State-Sponsored Murder, and Surviving Vladimir Putin's Wrath.

I love having you every time you come on there's a particular occasion last week marked the launch of your new book Freezing Order a true story of money laundering murder and surviving Vladimir Putin's wrath, which has done very well. It's a great book I read it cover to cover I think lots of people are buying it and everyone is listening within the sound of my voice Should buy it and read it also for a lot of different reasons.

Then this book was all about for the last 10 years Going after the people who killed Magnitsky financially because Sergei had discovered as massive Financial crime a 230 million dollar crime and one of the things I said to myself after he was killed was these people shouldn't Be able to enjoy this money. Let's get governments to issue Freezing Orders over this money So they can enjoy it which is the name of the book Freezing Order and We pursued this path of going and trying to find the money and we found a lot of it and we got various Freezing Orders in different countries and The book describes how we found the money of these Putin cronies of the Putin regime What methods they use to launder their money and how they hide it in the West

and so I spent three years writing this book and then six seven weeks ago Putin invades Ukraine and and one of the things everyone wants to know is where does Putin keep his money? and so as close as anyone can come to answering that question, I've done it and I've got a 350 page book going into the details and and originally the book was supposed to come out in June And I said to my publisher I said why are we waiting till June, you know every politician I know wants the answer to this question. I'm sure they'll all read this cover to cover and so Simon and Schuster moved the publication up to last week and here we go

Congratulations on the book Freezing Order a true story of money laundering murder and surviving vladimir putin's wrath.

In fact, he will be on the podcast next week. I saw him this week for the first time since the pandemic at the launch of his book, Freezing Order.

And a lot of it has to do with Russian oligarchs and how we can take money away from them and how to deal with Vladimir Putin and his stifling of dissidents.

Programming note for folks, Bill Browder will be on the show again in a week or two to talk about his new book, Freezing Order.

I'm also going to ask him about the new book he's writing, Freezing Order, which promises to be just as good.

I've talked about this as a money ball thing. When you looked at the Billy Bean and the Oakland A's, how it used to be scouts would go out and say, I'll tell you, I can see it. I can see when there's a great pitcher or a great hitter. And then of course they pulled the data and the story was a pretty different one. That there is something to be said for that gut and instinct, but that it really has to be informed by data and understanding what's happening and whether you can do a better job and how.

but it's on my mind because I was thumbing through it because this gentleman, this author, will be my special guest in a Zoom, Bill Browder. His book Red Notice is the most page-turning thing you'll read probably in a long time.

If you haven't read it, I would get that. I'm also going to ask him about the new book he's writing, Freezing Order, which promises to be just as good.

His book Red Notice is the most page-turning thing you'll read probably in a long time. If you haven't read it, I would get that.

I was actually um on vacation I was beginning my next book

I was actually um on vacation I was beginning my next book

And he talks about how progressives and Democrats in particular valorize college.

Another book along those lines that I think also helps understand where we are in the country in a justice framework to figure out why it is that there's so much inequality in the country and what inequality means and what we should be striving for in a just society. Because it's not necessarily what people think. And the book that I really enjoyed reading and made me think, I think about it almost every day, is the book by Michael J. Sandel, my former Harvard professor, called The Tyranny of Merit,

And the book that I really enjoyed reading, it made me think, I think about it almost every day, is the book by Michael J. Sandel, my former Harvard professor, called The Tyranny of Merit,

People who have technocratic expertise, but who lack human judgment and experience, practical wisdom, sense of history, they've gotten us, if you just look back at the last half century, they've gotten us into some pretty dangerous political circumstance.

Sandel's new book, The Tyranny of Merit, What's Become of the Common Good?, is an intense indictment of America's relationship with achievement.

I think it's a must read for everyone.

One of the most galling features of meritocratic hubris is its credentialism.

The moral of Henry Aaron's story is not that we should love meritocracy but that we should despise a system of racial injustice that can only be escaped by hitting home runs.

He's also the author of Just Mercy, a New York Times best-selling memoir.

I want to congratulate you also on the continued success of your book Just Mercy which is now out for four years.

and in I think more recent news is going to be made into a motion picture right

The wisdom Stevenson offers on the history of racial injustice in America is tragically evergreen.

The threshold question in the American criminal justice system is do we deserve to kill?

When you execute someone wrongly, you have no ability to recover from that. And we don't have a perfect system.

We just don't care as much structurally, systemically about the victimization of black and brown people.

If we got to that point, we wouldn't want the death penalty. We'd understand something about ourselves.

I want to congratulate you also on the continued success of your book Just Mercy, which is now out for four years?

Well, the whole point for me in writing the book was to get more people to understand these issues.

He's also the author of Just Mercy, a New York Times best-selling memoir.

Stevenson is also the author of the New York Times best-selling memoir, Just Mercy, which has been adapted into a movie released in theaters yesterday.

He's also the author of Just Mercy, a New York Times best-selling memoir.

I want to congratulate you also on the continued success of your book Just Mercy which is now out for four years.

yeah four years and it continues to be extremely popular and extremely meaningful for a lot of people and in I think more recent news is going to be made into a motion picture right.

One of the greatest books I've ever read and it was a guide for me when I wrote my own book even though it was in a totally different category.

And people know me well know this perhaps one of the greatest screenwriters ever in America William Goldman who wrote among other things the Princess bride wrote a book called Adventures in the Screen Trade yeah.

It's one of the best books that I've ever read in any genre ever.

I would not only consult with a book that I've mentioned before, Adventures in the Screen Trade by William Goldman, but also would turn to sometimes Breakfast of Champions or Slaughterhouse-Five and just read a passage or two.

It's one of the best books that I've ever read in any genre ever.

that book always stayed with me.

I revere him. I revere his books. I revere his scholarship. I revere his storytelling.

I was so in awe of his presence. And I was so nervous about the interview.

And I do get nervous about some interviews. I want to do a good job, asking questions of this person who I've been reading for decades and who was, I think one of the greatest biographers of our generation or any generation.

You have reminded me that I was remiss and I lost my opportunity. Maybe I'll have one again.

I went and I took Robert Caro's Master of the Senate, the hardcover version of it.

I always think about the opening chapter of Bob Caro's bookMaster of the Senate where he talks his whole chapter about the desks of the Senate and you know if you have a reverence for that because you have a reverence for democracy seeing people you know just desecrate it like that was an unbelievable thing.

Your book, Master of the Senate, has special meaning for me because I read it before I began working in the U.S. Senate.

And I took a copy of your book, the hardcover copy of your book, and spent an hour, one of my last few hours in the Senate, as a staffer thinking, I may never be here again. And I opened up to the first chapter of the book, which I believe is called The Desks of the Senate.

And look, I know I wrote a whole book on us versus them and how globalism has failed and how divided this country is.

Ian has also written nine books, including most recently, Us vs. Them, The Failure of Globalism, about the global growth of populism.

He's written nine books, which is eight more than me, including most recently Us Versus Them, The Failure of Globalism, about the failures of elites to address the growing spread of populism around the world.

Ian has also written nine books, including most recently, Us vs. Them, The Failure of Globalism, about the global growth of populism.

He's written nine books, which is eight more than me, including most recently Us Versus Them, The Failure of Globalism, about the failures of elites to address the growing spread of populism around the world.

In fact, in my book, Winter Is Coming, I looked at the earlier presidents. So I talked about Bill Clinton and Bush 43. And my argument was that since the end of the Cold War, America had no strategy, long-term strategy to make the difference, to change the world.

In fact, in my book, Winter Is Coming, I looked at the earlier presidents. So I talked about Bill Clinton and Bush 43. And my argument was that since the end of the Cold War, America had no strategy, long-term strategy to make the difference, to change the world.

In fact, in my book, Winter Is Coming, I looked at the earlier presidents. So I talked about Bill Clinton and Bush 43. And my argument was that since the end of the Cold War, America had no strategy, long-term strategy to make the difference, to change the world.

In fact, in my book, Winter Is Coming, I looked at the earlier presidents. So I talked about Bill Clinton and Bush 43. And my argument was that since the end of the Cold War, America had no strategy, long-term strategy to make the difference, to change the world.

It's called 'Age of Revolutions: Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present.'

This is much harder.

The weirdness of the Tea Party movement which was essentially trying to take over and transform the Republican Party.

The fact that you were finding in the Republican Party voices that were fundamentally hostile to kind of the old Reagan formula of free trade, open markets, pro-immigration all that made me realize there's something big going on.

The rise of forces like that ended up leading to Brexit.

It's called Age of Revolutions, Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present. And what I'm trying to do is ask myself, why does it feel like we're living in such revolutionary times where our politics is being upended? The Republican Party of Reagan has turned into the party of Trump, which is almost the opposite. The Democrats coalition has completely shifted from blue collar working class to this. Why does the economics seem so different? There was a period of free trade globalization. Now everyone's talking industrial policy. Why does the world seem like it's... And what I did is in a way of trying to teach myself about it, I went back and asked myself, when have we had previous revolutionary periods in human history and what can we learn from them? So I look at the French revolution, I look at the industrial revolution, and I draw some lessons. And it's taken me almost a decade because I had to go back to school, but I'm very proud of it.

It's called Age of Revolutions, Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present.

And what I'm trying to do is ask myself, why does it feel like we're living in such revolutionary times where our politics is being upended?

The Republican Party of Reagan has turned into the party of Trump, which is almost the opposite.

The Democrats coalition has completely shifted from blue collar working class to this, why does the economics seem so different?

There was a period of free trade, globalization. Now everyone's talking industrial policy.

I never had the faintest interest in writing a book just to tell the life of a great man.

I said, if you pick the right man, you can use the life of a man to show what you want to show about political power.

Now, Moses did something that no one else has done before.

He was a guy who was never elected. He had more power than anyone who was elected, more than any governor, more than any mayor and governor combined, and he held that power, think of this, for 44 years, and with it, he shaped the whole metropolitan area.

I said, oh, I have to show this just like I showed how he wielded power. I have to show the effect of power on the powerless. I have to really write about this neighborhood.

I never had the faintest interest in writing a book just to tell the life of a great man.

He was never elected to anything that had so much power, where did he get it?

If you can figure out how and why he did it, then you will be getting to the essence of power.

He had more power than anyone who was elected, more than any governor, more than any mayor and governor combined, and he held that power, think of this, for 44 years, and with it, he shaped the whole metropolitan area.

He goes, there was an alternate route just two blocks away that paralleled this route. He tore down 54 six- and seven-story apartment houses for this one mile. If he took the other route two blocks away, parallel, exactly the same, it would require, as I recall, him to tear down just six little tenements.

He's written two books.

I think probably been on innumerable interviews and podcasts

and I think he has felt it's in his interest to speak and speak a lot and speak continuously and try to equal the volume and one messageness of the former president.

And anyway, Michael Cohen did what Michael Cohen thought he needed to do.

If you read his book, if you really talk to him, he loves to say, you know, it was very clear to me what I needed to do on January 6th. I needed to defend the Constitution.

He's a professor at the University of Texas School of Law and is a nationally recognized expert on the Supreme Court and constitutional law. He's also the author of the best-selling book, The Shadow Docket, and has argued over a dozen cases before the high court.

it has an appropriately dark and foreboding cover with a kind of a silhouetted Supreme Court building.

I think what's happened in the last six years is that practices that had become to some degree normalized on The Shadow Docket have actually been used by the court in ways that it impact us a lot more from abortion access in Texas to Trump immigration policies to New York and California COVID restrictions.

in recent cases this court has been lambasted for staying a district court order based on the scanty review this court gives matters on its shadow docket.

the way that same-sex marriage was legalized in 18 states in the run-up to the Supreme Court's much more visible 2015 decision in Obergefell versus Hodges I think that's an example of you know unsigned unexplained orders that produced what we might call pro-progressive outcomes

I think the real question going forward is you know is there going to be anyone in the middle of the court anyone who is now to his right who is going to adopt any of his institutional objections to this behavior

The book is called The Shadow Docket. It's about the rise of unsigned and unexplained Supreme Court decisions that are having ever broader impacts on all of us, perhaps including a future decision regarding a subpoena for Lindsey Graham's grand jury testimony. It's due out from Basic Books early next year.

I knew House was the head of the publishing house that did art of the deal, lifelong friend for Cohn, et cetera, et cetera.

She calls her sequel to Trump's book The Art of the Deal, The Art of the Steal.

maybe second to his own book, The Art of the Deal, the best book.

But as somebody who's been a media executive now, has been at a bunch of different newspapers and has run an organization and started one, one thing that's important to understand is that everybody running a media organization actually has access to the same analytics to some degree.

It is something that is explaining many, many political systems at once right now and is being validated by cross-national data.

One thing particularly that they are is polarized.

And so you have differentiation.

Ezra Klein: "Why the media is so polarized -- and how it polarizes us," Vox, 1/28/20