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And in the book Give and Take, Adam has this typology. There are three kinds of people. One kind of person is a giver. They're primarily motivated to help other people solve their problems. One kind of person is a taker. They're primarily motivated to get ahead and to relate to other people with the question, what can you do to solve my problems? Also, there's the possibility that you're a matcher and the matcher is actually the thing that we were just describing. Like I'll do this for you if you do something for me.

And then he gave me this counter proposal. He's like, look, here's the way to be a giver who doesn't get taken advantage of. When you give, always ask yourself, what's the problem that I'm solving for this other person? And at the same time, how does this benefit me?

I was like, that's not the way my mother raised me.

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Your books, give and take and originals. I mean, they are so innovative and so interesting. And that requires a lot of thinking.

But, you know, it's we receive these books, give and take or originals or whatever. You know, think again. And they're elegant and they're very useful and very interesting and full of innovative ideas.

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Adam has ascended to another plane of existence because he just does it all and he does it so well.

But for me, it's Adam Grant. We do the same thing. I co-direct an institute with him. We're at the same school. We both have podcasts. We write books.

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He became known to many through his popular book, Give and Take, a revolutionary approach to success.

In his book, Give and Take, a revolutionary approach to success.

Adam Grant describes three basic orientations of which we're all capable and which influence whether organizations are joyful or toxic for human beings, the givers, the takers and the mattress.

And he's the author of Give and Take, a revolutionary approach to success.

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helping is not the enemy of productivity, a time-sapping diversion from the actual work at hand. It is the mother load, the motivator that spurs increased productivity and creativity for you first.

helpfulness is grants, create a.

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He became known to many through his popular book, Give and Take, a revolutionary approach to success.

In his book, Give and Take, a revolutionary approach to success.

Adam Grant describes three basic orientations of which we're all capable and which influence whether organizations are joyful or toxic for human beings, the givers, the takers and the matchers.

And he's consulted for numerous organizations including Google, the United Nations, and the US Army.

Adam Grant is a professor of psychology at the Warton School of the University of Pennsylvania. And he's a regular contributor to The New York Times. He's the author of Give and Take, a revolutionary approach to success. His forthcoming book, Originals, will be out in February 2016.

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He became known to many through his popular book, "Give and Take: A Revolutionary Approach to Success."

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And he's written a new book and he has this thing on, okay, flip-flopping is when you back off your positions because the mob comes from you. But evolving is recognizing other people's points and changing your view because you're generally concerned about learning.

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He's written a whole string of best-selling books including Give and Take, Think Again and Originals.

there you talk about this incredible teacher I believe who just saw the potential in any anybody who crossed their path

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you wrote the great book give and take and you behind the scenes with no foreseeable credit reached out to me when you heard I was giving a TED Talk offered to give me notes.

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Well, it reminds me of a I'm not going to be able to reproduce this with complete fidelity but Adam Grant's book Give and Take.

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Adam Grant is a business school professor at Wharton University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia who wrote an excellent book called Give and Take and I expressed some frustration about the fact that Adam Grant has publicly criticized meditation.

it's called give and take and it's about um sort of givers and takers in a workplace setting and how actually altruism um can counter intuitively be a really positive strategy but a really successful strategy

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Did you read Give and Take by Adam Grant I did I love that book yeah it's a great book and he talked about there are three types of people in the business world givers takers and mattress

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Our guest this week wrote what has been for me one of the most influential books I've read in a long time and I've actually I've read it many times.

It's called Give and Take and it's all about kind of the question to do good guys finish last in the office.

I'm working on a book about kindness and this is one of the most important books in the genre in my view. There are not a lot of books about kindness that are any good.

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I recommend the work of a former guest on the show Adam Grant he wrote a book called Give and Take and it's really really great

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your guest Adam Grant and a friend of mine has done amazing work in this area he has a great book called Give and Take

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Well, it reminds me of a I'm not going to be able to reproduce this with complete fidelity but Adam Grant's book Give and Take.

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Adam Grant is a business school professor at Wharton University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia who wrote an excellent book called Give and Take

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Did you read give and take by Adam Graham

I did I love that book yeah it's a great book and he talked about there are three types of people in the business world givers takers and mattress yeah this has been a long time since I've read it's probably been about four or five years

yeah I have a beef with some of the ways he talks about meditation publicly but that's separate but I do think he's in the main just a really positive force

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And if you, Adam Grant made a great case for this in his book Give and Take which is one of my favorite books of all time.

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And if you, Adam Grant made a great case for this in his book Give and Take which is one of my favorite books of all time.

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His books include Think Again, Originals, Give and Take, Option B.

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But when you actually offering value and Adam Grant wrote a book called Give and Take. And Robert Chardina talks about the law of reciprocity.

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You should read Adam Grant's book, Give and Take.

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And then he gave me the American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis.

He gave me the American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis.

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American Psycho, rules of attraction, less than zero

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There are similarities to this and like the Patrick Bateman character from American Psycho, but that character seems to have a reason to have all that money and depression.

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There are similarities to this and like the Patrick Bateman character from American Psycho, but that character seems to have a reason to have all that money and depression.

Well this is before American Psycho because you could argue that American Psycho ripped this movie off.

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It definitely gives American psycho vibes for sure. In fact, the clear raincoat in this instance, somewhat gives American psycho vibes from this particular person because he puts on a clear raincoat.

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Did you guys read the discourse about American Psycho is awesome?

Apparently, the idea is that Bateman never actually kills most of those people. And they're just his like, there is dark, twisted fantasy.

He said mergers and acquisitions. But in his head, that's what he's thinking.

He's like a dark Walter Mitty.

The idea that this is all in his and the fact that he doesn't get caught and he sort of like completely melts down in such a public way and yet still doesn't get caught.

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I'm not worried about Newsom. First of all, he looks like he looks like the dude from American Psycho.

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Famous monsters and American Psycho were huge influences for my band Screaming Torso from oh six to oh eight.

American Psycho on repeat for years.

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My favorite monsters in American Psycho were huge influences for my band Screaming Torso from 06 to 08, please look us up on SoundCloud, our album is called "There Will Be Torso", thank you Michael.

Yeah, Misfits were formed 1977 Lodi, New Jersey, by Glenn Danzig, Jerry Only. They broke up in 81, I think something like that, and then they really gained popularity from Metallica, you know Cliff Burton the bass player always had the, this the skull on and like Rob Zombie and so when I got into the band it was, there was a lot more legend behind the band than than anything else, they only had really only had played a handful of shows and, and so everything was sort of word of mouth.

I bought American Psycho the day it dropped and I still jam it, jam to it this day.

Mr. Graves, you're an incredible singer, started listening as a teen and had American Psycho on repeat for years, my four-year-old son loves it too.

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He tanned himself like leather to play Patrick Bateman in American Psycho.

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I was reading Brett Easton Ellis, I was reading American Psycho and Glamorama and I... ripped off of Brett Easton Ellis's horror as a writer.

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He gave me a copy of American Psycho, the book for Brett Easton Ellis, gave me a copy of the book and a DVD of Jamie Foxx live from the foxhole and goes, this is who I am comedically.

He is Patrick Bateman.

He even suggests to us to watch the movie and read the book so much that I was like, what are you trying to tell us?

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And, you know, also, apparently there's a real affection for Patrick Bateman, you know, an American psycho by a lot of these kids in middle school, which is weird to me

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I think we're getting this image of Governor Noem as Patrick Bateman in American Psycho you know cricket do you like Huey Lewis and the News kind of putting on the smock and everything.

and it's not it'd be one thing if she were torturing this animal but she was she just kind of took him out back said look at the flowers George you know and did a little of mice and men kind of action a little old yellow reaction and so having a time of her life is this psycho dog was a gleeful you know at the bodies of the chickens you know tossing them in the air psycho that's normal that's normal behavior dog every time Stradwick sees a squirrel or a rabbit run across our property he's almost frothing at the mouth he's so excited if you were just a little faster he'd be killing them every day but he's kind of fat and a little slow so he can't do it.

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If you want to hear a great defense of Gen X, just went online a couple of days ago. Bret Easton Ellis, the author of American Psycho, in an interview in which he was saying why Gen X was the greatest generation in these more recent generations have ruined the ruined America. It's really, really funny and very, very good.

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Go watch American Psycho or read the book, but you gotta watch it because Bale looks just like him, the hair, everything.

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His wife knew about it. His wife knew about his girlfriend.

His favorite book is American Psycho, which for those that haven't heard me mention it before, I've read that book 13 times. I like the book quite a bit, but apparently this was something that investigators found very interesting.

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Is this the script for American Psycho?

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Bret Easton Ellis. I don't know him. You do Less Than Zero, American Psycho.

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she then landed some small TV roles and some movie roles as well, such as American Psycho, The Lion Game, Unstockable, and Boyhood.

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She also did a photo shoot for Playboy magazine, and that was later that same year. She then landed some small TV roles and some movie roles as well, such as American Psycho, The Lion Game, Unstockable, and Boyhood.

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he does remind you of american psycho or something like that yeah he's one of those guys from like southern charm

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American Psycho. He can do anything. Christian Bale. Christian Bale as Chris Farley. Well, if you had told me he could play Dick Cheney, I would have said, no way. And then he did. He does it all.

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Dan, I know you like American Psycho. It's one of my favorite films. One of the greatest dark comedies ever made.

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When I was a kid in high school, American Psycho was released, that book.

American Psycho is on brand.

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Brett Easton Ellis' American Psycho. This was Patrick Bateman's favorite movie. Talked about it over and over. He rented it 37 times on videocassette.

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Ordinary People on the list of most banned books in school libraries. Yeah, that's so strange. It was the 52nd most challenged book in schools and libraries from 1999. Narrowly beating out number 53, American Psycho.

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He writes for so many years that Christian Bale, who played serial killer Patrick Bateman in American Psycho, was referenced as an example.

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Abigail Schreier, I'm sure you know the book Irreversible Damage, wrote an incredible book about the social contagion, particularly as it pertains to young girls transitioning to boys, not the other way around.

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She was the author of Irreversible Damage, which was really like the premier book on the sort of social contagion as it pertains to young girls transitioning, quote unquote, transitioning to boys.

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So this is what Abigail Shrier's new book is about, because basically what you're saying and what she writes about is that in essence, if you were to send a kid who was confused about their gender, which some kids could be part of growing up in puberty and everything else.

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for any of you that have read Abigail Shryer's book irreversible damage we know there's a huge social contagion element to it

and then when you see the head of the department of sec education telling kids like oh you're great because of this it encourages more kids to do it these kids don't know what they're doing their brains aren't fully developed yet their bodies aren't fully developed yet they are they are literally as Jordan Peterson calls them they are butchering these children chopping up their genitals injecting them with all of this medication

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And he said that he couldn't believe it. It took him two years. It took him two years to admit to what might be going on.

I read a PDF a while back that was prepared by a marketing agency that described the growth opportunities on the transgender treatment front, the so-called gender affirming side of medicine, which that gender affirming phrase, that's like one of the most manipulative lies I've ever heard in my life.

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Her best-selling book, Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters (2020), was named a "Best Book" by the Economist and the Times (of London). It has been translated into ten languages.

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I've formed this opinion after reading Abigail Schreier's book, Irreversible Damage.

And it's everything from over-medicalization, and what I mean by that is a child can show up and be autistic, a child can show up and have been incested or molested.

There could be a host of reasons the child is presenting in the way that they are, meaning gender dysphoria, and after two visits, it's like, okay, off to the endocrinologist.

And they're not getting treated for underlying issues where they may need very serious help.

You are in fact interrupting puberty, which is the stage of life where your brain is developing, your bones are developing, your organs are developing.

We're sterilizing these kids.

So you can take a 14 year old and tell them they're never going to have kids.

Well at 14, I didn't want kids.

Now I'm 50 and I have two of those savages that run my life.

I'm fine with adopting.

A lot of people don't want to adopt.

They want their own kids.

There's nothing wrong with that.

But a 14 year old can't comprehend that.

These kids can't have orgasms.

Does a child understand what this means?

I don't think so.

Their teeth are cracking.

They've got back problems.

Their bones are brittle.

It's very serious.

And I haven't even touched upon the host of other issues that she outlines here.

And by the way, if we look at people as far right as it goes, if you were to look at somebody like Charlie Kirk, even Charlie Kirk says, I'm just talking about transitioning children.

Adults can go with God.

So the reason for that is an adult's brain is developed and adult's bones are developed.

And while the counter argument is the whole point is not enduring puberty in the quote wrong body, I'm sorry to say, I think your brain development is more important.

In the cast review, she also points out that gender affirming care didn't actually resolve the angst and the mental anguish that these kids are struggling with in the vast majority of kids.

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I recommend Juliette Binoche specifically in the movie Damage with Jeremy Irons, which I love.

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And also irreversible damage which I believe was one of the most important pieces of literature to add reason to the transgender insanity that is enveloping the country.

So Abigail, I want to talk about your book Irreversible Damage. When you first started the research that topic, did you have any idea first the impact or the backlash you would receive and also the shelf life?

The American people are waking up to this transgender craze and if you check out the book irreversible damage and you work through it. You realize that at the root of this is a craze and a social contagion so Abigail what would you say is the parents role here versus you know the political and the societal role and for parents that are listening for the first time we have several. We have a very big audience of parents how should they prepare their children for encountering this craze.

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I started with Abigail Shrier's Irreversible Damage which luckily came out right when my daughter expressed her.

It's an excellent book.

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This is an argument I hear from left-wingers a lot when we decry cancel culture and Amazon taking down a very humorously titled, but actually scholarly book from Ryan T. Anderson, which is called When Harry Became Sally. That's sort of the book at issue here.

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I wrote the book because a woman wrote to me.

I've had this problem with her now in epidemic of these young girls who are in a lot of very real pain deciding that gender must be their problem and very quickly obtaining hormones and surgeries.

I don't advocate a particular method of treating transgender people. I don't even advocate a method of treating transgender teenagers all I'm pointing out in the book is that there are there seems to be a sudden rise in these teenage girls who are subject to peer influence and social media influence deciding their transgender and there are no medical safeguards for these girls.

They are very much you know they're acting under so you know social media influence and peer influence we have numbers on that certainly not my studies but others have done studies on this. And they're acting under the influence of peer influence and social media influence they are quickly obtaining hormones and surgeries and there is virtually no over medical oversight of this process.

That's the thesis of the book.

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Kelly J. Keene, Helen Joyce, Abigail Shrier's book.

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I love Abigail Schreier who wrote one of the most important books I've ever read, which was Irreversible Damage.

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You are not helping them read irreversible damage by Abigail Shryler Shryer.

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Every now and then you'll get a David Goggins and it smashes and it's huge and was wonderful for me as a host to research.

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Goggins talks about a lot you know put you read Goggins books yeah yeah bro he's such a fucking it can't hurt me was uh book number two and that was that wreck me because it's like his childhood yeah I'm reading that and I read Iron Cowboy yeah both of those in 75 hard and it's just like it makes 75 hard laughable yeah you're just like yeah I'm complaining about store feet and you got James Lawrence running 50 ironmen yeah

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You have to listen to his audiobook.

If you don't know his story, it's freaking incredible.

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I read Goggins book your nookies are gonna go straight in your ass

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I read Goggins book your nookies are gonna go straight in your ass It's very cold to stay in there for like yeah

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I first started coming out to Vegas to write my book the odds about these guys who've been on sports for a living.

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You get into his universe and know him and you get inspired and then you start following guys like David Goggins and reading their books

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You get into his universe and know him and you get inspired and then you start following guys like David Goggins and reading their books

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Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins, which is fascinating

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can't hurt me by David Goggins which is fascinating

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And today we're going to dive into his new book, which is called Can't Hurt Me about mastering your mind and defying the odds.

I've had a beautiful fortune of actually diving into this book this weekend.

So in that book, it's a raw, very humbling version of David Goggins.

I went down to the grassroots, to the soil, to the sewer of my life.

It's the stuff that we don't want to talk about. It's the stuff that we don't want that person next to you in line knowing.

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I went down to the grassroots, to the soil, to the sewer of my life.

It's the stuff that we don't want that person next to you in line knowing.

And I had to have the courage to say it out loud to people.

The only way we can go forward is to go all the way back.

The only way you're going to fix yourself is to go all the way back to the beginning, to your childhood, because that's where everything starts.

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David goggins his knees. He grew up in fucking indiana, dude He was the only white kid in school. He went he dude his story's fucked up.

He was getting like legitimately tortured for what

He was like beneath. It was just bullshit, dude

He was on the bus And a little kid ran out with like a tray of cookies to bring to the bus driver The bus driver didn't see him and ran his head over And fucking and goggins got off.

Open his textbook and get notes of people being like we're gonna fucking kill you like hitting them with like hard ends Went to the principal to report it. The principal's like they didn't spell it right though

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or someone who was also born into this terrible situation like that and you can listen to his story and read his, or listen to his audio book which is fantastic.

Read his book and understand there's people like him that used to be like me.

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Like I read the Goggins book and great fucking book. Yeah. And life that dude had huh?

It's sad life. But then on the flip side, inspiring to a guy like myself where I'm running, I'm running, say I'm working out.

So yeah, I mean, I'm just now starting to get into a little bit more books than I have in the past.

I mean, just think about that kind.

There's a part in a book, I think he went to support his mother, sister and a race and then in Las Vegas and then I think he just took off and left, like he was there for them.

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He put this lab rat which is me on this planet.

So to do that friction, you don't wake up in the morning time and go to the coffee maker. In fact, sometimes I even sleep.

And if people can learn to focus, this was possible while it may not be pretty like people want to do a documentary on me.

I go no, I want you to do a documentary on me because I will have normal everyday people picking me apart on his life is miserable. Who wants to live like that? He looks it's crazy how he someone's like he's sick. He's psychotic.

Yeah, all these things for me like I told you, I'm going to keep it real. I'm not coming here to talk about like you know, perform without purpose.

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I lived this firsthand when I wrote The Odds all those years ago, my bestselling book about guys who bet on sports for a living.

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I read books like Goggins books, Tim Grover's books.

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I read David Goggins' Can't Hurt Me.

They were, I mean, all phenomenal.

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I think one of the first books that I read was Can't Hurt Me and so that one was like super intense.

Just kind of like when I was in the gym struggling I got to remember that he would run like 100 miles on like broken key and stuff.

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There is a muse but he's not going to come fluttering down into your writing room he lives in the ground he's a basement guy you have to descend to his level

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That stepbook is really good. It's called Can't Hurt Me.

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Your book is fucking fantastic, man. This has been my running partner. The audio version of it has been my running partner for the last week.

But the audiobook is really interesting, right? Because you and the gentleman you wrote it with... Adam Skolnick reads it.

The book is outstanding and you know, it's more than just sitting across you and you telling your story--it's a detailed history of how you became the person you are.

One of the reasons why this book is so good is because you're so honest about your vulnerabilities and how you overcome them.

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I think you got to look back at Hunter S. Thompson, you know, because he originally wrote about that in the fear and loathing in Las Vegas.

I think it was like the first time a Drenacrome was mentioned in like the mainstream was in that book and at the time Hunter S. Thompson was a journalist and he was known as being a very brutally honest journalist.

And so he talked about Drenacrome in fear and loathing in Las Vegas and a lot of people point to that is like him being very honest about stuff he'd heard or seeing and because that's what he was known.

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fear and loathing in Las Vegas is quite the piece of work and he what he wrote one on the hell's angels and one about the campaign trail they're all great books right really iconic sixties works and

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they also got the thing about the adrenochrome from uh uh hundress thompson from uh interesting you're in loving

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come on you said it yeah you act like you didn't know it I mean I don't know why they were doing the weird hunger games like I think this one's where we go where we go well so some people say it was a q anon motto where we go one where we go all which is a line they stole from the movie white squall remember nice no I don't remember a flick check it out the uh they also got the thing about the adrenochrome from uh uh hundress thompson from uh interesting you're in loving

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But Hunter Thompson's Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, was born out of two different assignments where Rolling Stone sent him to Las Vegas, first to cover the Mint 400, and then to cover that- The cop convention?

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I want to go back and read some of his, I read, you know, Fear and Loathing, of course.

I think he's like Bukowski. Like there is a specific set of years. Typically in like your early twenties. You're listening to the Doors. Or you're reading Hunter Thompson and reading Bukowski and yeah, doing all sorts of other things.

And that as you age it, you might find that you don't appreciate him quite as much as you used to.

I think that going back to him might be folly though.

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Hunter S. Thompson's Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, was born out of two different assignments where Rolling Stone sent him to Las Vegas, first to cover the Mint 400, and then to cover that- The cop convention?

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The whole ugly event is, among other things, a big part of what inspired Hunter Thompson to write Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

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The whole ugly event is, among other things, a big part of what inspired Hunter Thompson to write Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

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The whole ugly event is, among other things, a big part of what inspired Hunter Thompson to write Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. He was there at the time.

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The whole ugly event is, among other things, a big part of what inspired Hunter Thompson to write Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

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I'll be the benicio del Toro to your Johnny Depp like in fear and loathing.

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I don't know if any of you guys have listened to the podcast but it's very good and he talks about how if you ask a man at a random farm in the middle of nowhere in the middle east who he is he's gonna be able to tell you he knows exactly who he is he knows who his family has been for thousands of years he knows what his identity is what his job is you are gonna have a tough time manipulating that man into absurd ideologies whereas if you ask someone a modern suburbanite in the city who they are what did he say he said they don't need existentialist philosophers there they don't need these people asking who are we because they know we need those people here because we are such a diaspora we are so spread out we are kicked out of our houses we don't know who our families are we don't know our history we don't have these lineages of jobs and we're very easily controllable because of that and very easily confused because of that you get offered a sense of identity in the realm of a new radical ideology every single day on twitter instagram youtube you're going to be desperate for that because there is nothing you are latched onto in this world when you are kicked away from your family and the closest people you have are nuclear and there's nothing outside of that even it's a big problem it's a huge issue

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Hunter S. Thompson might have said it best in fear and loathing in Las Vegas, quote, We are all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled the 60s. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling consciousness expansion without ever giving a thought to the grim meat hook realities that were laying in wait for all the people who took him seriously. All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy peace and understanding for three bucks a hit. But their loss and failure is ours, too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole lifestyle that he had helped create a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers who never understood the essential old mystic fallacy of the acid culture. The desperate assumption that somebody or at least some force is tending to the light at the end of the tunnel.

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Hunter S Thompson in fear and loathing in Las Vegas he's really the one who Cemented the myth of adrenochrome as a drug because he turned it into this kind of immortality drug

For me. I love that book top 10 book in my world It's a great book

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For me. I love that book top 10 book in my world It's a great book But that is sort of the the central the beginning that and Huxley's book is where the first time we actually hear the term

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100 stumps that is writing fear and loathing in Las Vegas not about drugs but about the American dream that to me Hell's Angels is captured by the Quarries is myths and legends die hard in America because they proved to us that the tyranny of the rat race is not yet final it's a the Hell's Angels were a revolt against the corporatization and the you know the buzz cut you know button down sort of world that had come out of the Second World War but Thompson is basically Thompson isn't celebrating them he's saying that the curates maybe worse than the disease these are these he shows them you know doing a gang rape right

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you can see the high watermark of the sixties which is come receiving down into the emptiness and materialism temptation of a town like us.

He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

you look outside your hotel room in Las Vegas and you see the high water mark of the 1960s

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you explained that Thompson wrote in Fur and Loathing in Las Vegas, which at one time was one of my favorite books, you know, this Gonzo psychedelic classic. He wrote about this rare drug called Adrenochrome, right? Something only he get from a living body.

Absolutely. That's 100 percent where they got it. Adrenochrome is a real thing and it occurs in the brain. It is just kind of a, as The Times review says, it's more sasperilla than whiskey.

And the key thing here in Fear and Loving in Las Vegas is that this character in the book says I got it from a pedophile. And so there's the Adrenochrome pedophile connection.

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So it was that Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Hunter S. Thompson.

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I've given up trying to figure out what all the different suburbs here are all about, but I did know that this one appeared to have a Denny's that was housed in sign of a windmill. Hunter S Thompson wrote most of fear and loathing in Las Vegas at a motel in Acadia.

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The game turned on Trenton Hunter S Thompson's interception as he has Steelers fans hoping to feel fear and loathing in Las Vegas for the Super Bowl.

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The Colts had a chance to tie it late, but it was Daniil Hunter S. Thompson who went gonzo mode on the struggling Colts QB.

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The counterculture figure was best known as the author of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

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those books, fucking Hell's Angels and, you know, Fear and Loathing is some of the best writing.

Fear and Loathing changed my life. Like, reading that book was like, what the fuck? Like, what is this guy doing? There's grown men out there.

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I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas when I was 19. And I felt like I didn't know anyone could write like this and be so free.

I love Hunter S. Thompson... two books kind of changed my life early on... I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas when I was 19.

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Just read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. It's a completely insane book about the chaos of being out of your fucking mind in Vegas. It's brilliant.

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if you read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

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Remember the... he was the great protagonist or whatever he was, the central figure of Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky, and he said, you know, morality is all in the mind, and he kills a woman who is bitter, who is hateful, who is hated, abused power, rich old woman, and then he feels defiled, and he can't get rid of it until he confesses.

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And so Hamlet is an abstraction, like Raskolnikov in Crime and Punishment. Did Raskolnikov exist? It's like Raskolnikov existed in the soul of every Russian from like 1850 to 1990. And so is it real? It's like, it's hyper real.

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If you read "Crime and Punishment" for example, one of the things you see that emerges when risk-rescalded cove gets away with murder and it's a brutal murder and he gets away with it, it's completely clear and he has a justification for it and what happens as a consequence is that that disturbs his own relationship with himself so profoundly that he can't stand it such that when a just punishment is finally meted out to him it's a relief and that's not rare and that is like there isn't anything more terrifying this is why "Crime and Punishment" is such a great novel there isn't anything more terrifying than breaking a moral rule that you thought you had the ability to break and finding out that you're somewhere now that you really don't want to be and then that you know you know there's nothing worse in your own life than waiting for the other shoe to drop if you've transgressed against the moral rule and now you're an outsider because of that you live in no man's land the fact that you have just retribution coming to you that can be a precondition for your atonement and your integration back into society

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It'll be over Chuck when we do an episode that's actually about the Dostoevsky book.

We will seal the crime and punishment suite with that one.

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It'll be over Chuck when we do an episode that's actually about the Dostoevsky book.

We will seal the crime and punishment suite with that one.

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And then there was Fyodor Dostoevsky. I can never say his name, but you guys will probably remember his name from Crime and Punishment, the author.

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Crime and Punishment by Del Stoianski.

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We would celebrate Tolstoy and we would celebrate Solzhenitsyn and we would celebrate, you know, Crime and Punishment, we would celebrate the Russian symphony or ballet.

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We would celebrate Tolstoy and we would celebrate Solzhenitsyn and we would celebrate, you know, Crime and Punishment, we would celebrate the Russian symphony or ballet.

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Just like Woody Allen in Crime and Punishment, right? You just sort of get away with it.

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I'm getting a real Dostoyevsky vibe from this letter, Gabe, but it's like Daniel Steele wrote Crime and Punishment, but it's set inside the NSA or the CIA or something.

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I'm getting a real Dostoyevsky vibe from this letter, Gabe, but it's like Daniel Steele wrote Crime and Punishment, but it's set inside the NSA or the CIA or something.

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I'm getting a real Dostoevsky vibe from this letter, Gabe. But it's like Daniel Steele wrote Crime and Punishment, but it's set inside the NSA or the CIA or something.

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because like what's the alternative people have no intrinsic worth then you're in Dostoevsky in territory it's like his book Crime and Punishment because Ryszkall Nikoaw the protagonist decides

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I'm reading a book called crime and punishment which my dad told me to read and it's like a classic book and it's fucking Really hard to read and my brain is hurting and I'm missing poison for breakfast, but I am enjoying crime and punishment

the only thing that's hard about reading the book crime and punishment is that There are a lot of unfamiliar words, which is annoying because I have to constantly be looking up what words means But also there's a lot of really complicated Names like there's a lot of characters in the book and all of them have really really weird names not weird But like really long names And That's just kind of hard to follow but it's a really good book. Otherwise

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So maybe the same could be done for like crime and punishment.

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Wow I just now I feel fully embarrassed that I have a you know a fully illustrated version of Crime and Punishment. Wow. I'm going to try to track down a one that's only text.

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Crime and Punishment is the book that essentially made me a Christian. I mean, that's the book that changed my life. I mean, I was 19 years old. I read that book and all the relativism that was rising through the university system that I was in. I thought, oh, it's all wrong. I get it. It's all wrong.

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He said that the last book he read from his father was Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky.

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And it's all there in Dostoevsky's work in the picture of St. Petersburg in Crime and Punishment. Once you've read that it's quite hard to rid yourself of that when you're reading about Rasputin.

Raskolnikov in crime and punishment.

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Well, certainly I read Crime and Punishment, and it was easier to follow than Brothers Karamazov on Audible.

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yeah, well, certainly I read crime and punishment and it was easier to follow than Brothers Carmao's off on audible.

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I have done that with Catcher in the right, but my book is crime and punishment.

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I have done that with Catcher in the Rye, but my book is Crime and Punishment.

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To finish, I would like to read here a quote that was already in my letter from Dostoevsky, his novel Crime and Punishment.

his novel Crime and Punishment. As he quotes from Crime and Punishment yet again,

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See, Carly said that she was very interested in reading the book Crime and Punishment. Which, coincidentally, is a book about a super intelligent guy who comes to the conclusion that some people are so special that they can kill other people for the good of society.

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I think because he studied criminality and the criminal mind, that somehow he believes he can pull off the perfect murder, sort of like Raskolnikov from Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment.

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My favorite book, which is, well, my two favorite books, Crime and Punishment and Brothers Karamazov.

Crime and Punishment is literally on the nightstand next to my table, next to my bed.

I want to read it again. And it's a new translation.

When you read something like Dostoyevsky, you're like, I'm a smarter person now.

Something that's food for the soul.

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Do you ever read Crime and Punishment? I have never read Crime and Punishment.

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I went on a Dostoevsky jag, and I just--I read--I finished Brothers Karamazov a couple of weeks ago, and I loved it. There are parts that are a bit of a slog, because it's Dostoevsky, and he had a lot of time on his hands and a lot of ink, but I really liked it, and I liked Crime and Punishment a lot.

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I went on a Dostoevsky jag, and I just--I read--I finished Brothers Karamazov a couple of weeks ago, and I loved it. There are parts that are a bit of a slog, because it's Dostoevsky, and I really liked it, and I liked Crime and Punishment a lot.

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One of the first things in my life that brought me to God when I was 19 years old was reading Crime and Punishment, which is a story about an axe murderer.

And my thought is, could we call his wife first? ... And I remember reading that scene and I was living in a world ... That changed my life.

I remember reading that scene and thinking there is no planet in which this is good. ... It changed my life. It turned it toward God.

And so in exploring books like, exploring stories like Psycho, Silence of the Lambs, ... and Crime and Punishment specifically, what you find is that ...

And I'm not talking about some cute daisies; Crime and Punishment was the work that made me see the order in a chaotic world.

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There's no such thing as a choose your own adventure novel that adults read because, uh, it's like what I'm reading Crime and Punishment by Dostoevsky. I don't want to pick the end.

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A lot of great authors too were troubled people. Dostoevsky, he would not have been a pleasant guy to be around. A lot of interesting facts about his life. But if you're going to let that stop you from reading Crime and Punishment or from reading Brothers K or one of his great books, then you're punishing yourself.

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And Crime and Punishment is the book that essentially made me a Christian. I mean, that's the book that changed my life.

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It's very, very much like the kind of thing you find in Dostoevsky, like it's very Crime and Punishment.

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I think Crime and Punishment is his most easiest one to read, most accessible... it kind of moves quicker and it's his closest thing to a real pageturner that you just can't put down.

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The Fountainheads actually could be like a fine movie.

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He's also just like an epic, epic figure. I think we have to start, we have to begin in an epic register. Yes. Honestly, it's best if he introduces himself. Ladies and gentlemen of the press, usually I'm introduced as the last living amateur.

He's also just like an epic, epic figure. I think we have to start, we have to begin in an epic register. Yes. Honestly, it's best if he introduces himself. Ladies and gentlemen of the press, usually I'm introduced as the last living amateur. Something like the tattooed man, you know. That's Avery Brundage, late in life, speaking to some reporters in Japan. A journalist friend of mine in Chicago, one of the most sophisticated and cynical columnists there, visited Olympia not so long ago.

He's also just like an epic, epic figure. I think we have to start, we have to begin in an epic register. Yes. Honestly, it's best if he introduces himself. Ladies and gentlemen of the press, usually I'm introduced as the last living amateur. Something like the tattooed man, you know. That's Avery Brundage, late in life, speaking to some reporters in Japan. A journalist friend of mine in Chicago, one of the most sophisticated and cynical columnists there, visited Olympia not so long ago. And I was amazed to pick up the paper in Chicago, shortly thereafter, and see a headline, Brundage may be right after all.

He's also just like an epic, epic figure. I think we have to start, we have to begin in an epic register. Yes. Honestly, it's best if he introduces himself. Ladies and gentlemen of the press, usually I'm introduced as the last living amateur. Something like the tattooed man, you know. That's Avery Brundage, late in life, speaking to some reporters in Japan. A journalist friend of mine in Chicago, one of the most sophisticated and cynical columnists there, visited Olympia not so long ago. And I was amazed to pick up the paper in Chicago, shortly thereafter, and see a headline, Brundage may be right after all. This man was so impressed by the atmosphere at ancient Olympia that he was almost converted.

I feel like the mid-century was full of men like this. Fiction was full of men like this. The architect in Howard Roark, and Ayn Rand's the fountainhead.

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It sounds very much like you've been reading Ayn Rand.

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You know, I really I started the fountainhead a while ago.

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Why is Ron Paul hollowing a six inch hole out of a copy of the fountain head?

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From an early age, he fell in love with the writing of Ayn Rand, particularly The Fountainhead, which is, I know.

This book has a big influence on the guy.

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Why is Ron Paul hollowing a six inch hole out of a copy of the fountain head?

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Yeah, face palm. Yeah. Bibi identified strongly with Howard Rourke, the heroic architect ubermensch of the story.

This book has a big influence on the guy.

How do you have your formative years during the civil rights era, and that's what you pick up? You pick up Ayn Rand.

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From an early age, he fell in love with the writing of Ayn Rand, particularly The Fountainhead, which is, I know.

This book has a big influence on the guy.

How do you have your formative years during the civil rights era, and that's what you pick up? You pick up Ayn Rand.

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It's uh, it's sci-fi fantasy based off of like objectivist ideas from like "The Fountainhead" and Cool, the bat the boss is actually is literally named Atlas and the story is basically ultra wealthy people build a city underwater to escape regulation and...

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I found out late in life that he'd read Ayn Rand earlier on 'The Fountainhead'.

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He was very much out of the sort of Ayn Rand school of thinking. And he's often discussed how the fountainhead and books like that from Ayn Rand were really his formative things.

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The Fountainhead doesn't cut it

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You ever read The Fountainhead?

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read and read Fountainhead by Ayn Rand.

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Reed and Reen Fountainhead by Ayn Rand

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I think of that dirty dancing movie when you start to see the bias in Hollywood and you see the way to Robbie who's like the real turd burglar in the movies, total loser. And he comes up and he's like, read and read Fountainhead by Ayn Rand.

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And I think the book is fountain head if I'm not sure what I'm thinking.

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I would say, uh, man, I would recommend The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand. I've heard of it. I heard it's good. Have you read The Fountainhead? Oh, dude. Is it good? Oh, yeah. Did a movie know? I don't know if they ever made a movie The Fountainhead. I think they did.

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Everyone's reading The Fountainhead all day. Read that in college. How could you not? It's so appealing when you're a young man.

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I hadn't read Fountainhead already? I read some interview with you. I swore it said you like Fountainhead. I think I did then.

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I read it when I was in the eighth grade when I was a little kid. I was obsessed with it.

Then it kind of came out later that it's just this kind of narcissism and there's all this toxic philosophy in it.

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What's your favorite book that you, well, Fountainhead.

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One of my favorite books, maybe my favorite, I don't like to use that word favorite, but like The Fountainhead. It's Ayn Rand. It changed my life. It freed me as an artist.

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I can't help but think of the distinction between Howard Rourke and Peter Keating in The Fountainhead. If you haven't read it, you should.

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the Fountainhead

Ayn Rand's architect

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I love the fountainhead. Fountainhead fucking rules.

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I didn't understand in college and now I'm starting to understand. And I haven't not finished the whole book, but I've read parts of it all over is the Fountainhead.

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they all read Ayn Rand's novel and like The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged and then they stopped reading after that

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He was trying to sound the alarm. He recently spoke with, I think it was the Times again, and said, nothing's improved.

Nothing's improved. It was just this morning, I think. I think I listened to this this morning on their podcast. Where he said, I tried to sound the alarm, but it's only gotten worse. It was six or seven years before the iPhone came out that I published. First it was an article, then it was a book. And we've only gone into our corners more, both in terms of our devices, the way we live our lives and our politics.

He got annoying and started to talk about Trump, of course, in a completely inappropriate way. But the underlying point, the first point is well taken.

There are two ties that are important in socialization. One is to people who are like you and the second is to people who are not like you.

He said, well, they don't they don't pursue number two. They have the bonding that comes with being around people who are like you, but they refuse to reach out beyond MAGA. You know, they demonize people outside of MAGA.

"

For more on Brett's story read his book, Alone.

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It's what was written about prophetically and it turns out prematurely in "Bowling Alone."

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There's this great Harvard researcher named Robert Putnam. He wrote a book called Bowling Alone.

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about 20 years ago, a great social scientist named Robert Putnam wrote a book called Bowling Alone.

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Robert Putnam in his book, Bowling Alone, he's a social scientist.

He talks about how in the early 1900s, America was in these really dark times, really dark times. You had polarized politics, crime was terrible, immigration was off the chain and unchecked and people were screaming that America was on its last leg.

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He wrote an entire book about the social fabric called Bowling Alone who's kind of the pioneer in the idea of social capital and what he said is that he went in with to writing this book with the idea that diversity is our strength and then he did some research and what he found is that ethnic diversity only correlates with two things and these are his words. Increased TV watching and increased protest marches that's all it, unless, unless it is within the boundaries of a common goal.

"

Putnam is also the author of the landmark book Bowling Alone, which was published in 2000.

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Putnam's work shares a lot of the themes that I was just talking about today.

He wrote some of the seminal work on community membership and did some of the longest ranging studies on that.

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Putnam is also the author of the landmark book Bowling Alone, which was published in 2000.

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Now this concept of social capital, as you may know, Stephen was popularized in a very well-known book by Bob Putnam called Bowling Alone.

The reason for the title of that book is social capital is notoriously difficult to measure.

It is that social networks have value.

So I was amazed to find, I remember actually discussing this with Bob in his office at Harvard that the number of bowling alleys is actually very highly correlated with the rates of upward mobility in our own data.

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Putnam is also the author of the landmark book bowling alone, which was published in 2000.

That's a really enormous effect David Halpern again from the British government's behavioral insights team as Obvious as the benefits of social capital might seem we almost hardly seem to notice that it's there Says incredibly consequential and we see it in lots of areas of policy that we touch on

In other words, would it be in his words a fancy television? In other words, it will isolate us more and more or would it be a fancy telephone and would connect us more and more Because technology has both those capabilities

Putnam found that social capital was relatively low in the US in the early 1900s and rose fairly steadily through the 1960s But that's when the decline began.

But he warns it's not easy to do diversity diversity brings out the turtle in us That in a more diverse setting everybody kind of pulls in and disconnects from their neighbors

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Bob Putnam who wrote Bowling Alone and whose work I think you know of.

Bob Putnam wrote Bowling Alone about how as you know I guess like that Americans are spending time alone that they used to spend with friends

is that American adults spend time alone that they used to spend with others and he would I think say that what churches do and what pubs do and softball leagues for adults and volunteering for the Salvation Army and a lot of other institutions.

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you know bowling alone that great book by the Harvard researcher came out before the phone as far as I can remember with the whole idea that we we now this was a famous book about how we used to have bowling leagues.

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like that book bowling alone you know like um and how people are really trying to create some sense of community

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I also saw and wrote a little bit about sort of the breakdown of the normal mechanisms of community like that book bowling alone you know like um and how people are really trying to create some sense of community and I just did an interview about how an app can do that

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25 years ago, Bob wrote a book called Bowling Alone. It was grounded in data, and it offered a simple premise. Once upon a time, Americans joined bowling leagues. Now they're going bowling by themselves.

He extended the metaphor, positing that our declining social connections were leading to a decline in our democratic society. Lonely Americans, he wrote, are not great for America.

The book was a strike. It's still influential today.

In the book Bowling Alone, which was written almost 30 years ago, 25 to 30 years ago, I talked about the decline in these connections, decline in what I called social capital.

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And there's been many social studies, including the book Bowling Alone, that found that when demographic changes are so strong and so swift, it causes a depletion in trust in both institutions and trust among individual people, not just among people who look differently than you, but people who look the same than you.

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Inspired by the hit podcast American History Tellers, Wondery and William Morrow present the new book, The Hidden History of the White House.

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For more than two centuries, the White House has been the stage for some of the most dramatic scenes in American history. Inspired by the hit podcast, American History Tellers, Wondery and William Morrow present the new book, The Hidden History of the White House.

Each chapter will bring you inside the fierce power struggles, the world altering decisions and shocking scandals that have shaped our nation.

You'll be there when the very foundations of the White House are laid in 1792 and you'll watch as the British burn it down in 1814.

Then you'll hear the intimate conversations between FDR and Winston Churchill as they make plans to defeat Nazi forces in 1941.

And you'll be in the Situation Room when President Barack Obama approves the raid to bring down the most infamous terrorist in American history.

"

Wondery and William Morrow present the new book, The Hidden History of the White House.

"

Inspired by the hit podcast American History Tellers, Wondery and William Morrow present the new book, The Hidden History of the White House.

Each chapter will bring you inside the fierce power struggles, the world-altering decisions, and shocking scandals that have shaped our nation.

"

From the team behind American History Tellers comes a new book, The Hidden History of the White House.

Each chapter will bring you inside the fierce power struggles, intimate moments, shocking scandals that shaped our nation.

From the War of 1812 to Watergate, available now wherever you get your books.

Order The Hidden History of the White House now in hardcover or digital edition, wherever you get your books.

"

The Hidden History of the White House takes readers inside the iconic seat of American presidential power and reveals 15 behind-the-scenes moments that changed the course of history, like First Lady Dolly Madison's efforts to save priceless American artifacts as the British burned down the White House in 1814, or Edith Wilson's decision to keep her husband Woodrow's stroke a secret and assume his presidential duties.

The Hidden History of the White House is available now from William Morrow, wherever you get your books. Follow the link in the show notes to learn more.

"

The Hidden History of the White House takes readers into the iconic seat of American presidential power, revealing 15 behind-the-scenes moments that changed the course of history, like First Lady Dolly Madison's efforts to save priceless American artifacts from the British as they burned down the White House in 1814.

The Hidden History of the White House is available now from William Morrow, wherever you get your books. Follow the link in the show notes to learn more.

Order The Hidden History of the White House now in hardcover or digital edition wherever you get your books.

"

Order your copy of the new American History Tellers book, "The Hidden History of the White House," for behind-the-scenes stories of some of the most dramatic events in American history--set right inside the house where it happened.

"

The Hidden History of the White House takes readers inside the iconic seat of American presidential power, revealing 15 behind-the-scenes moments that changed the course of history.

Like First Lady Dolly Madison's efforts to save priceless American artifacts from the British when they burned down the White House in 1814.

Or Edith Wilson's decision to keep her husband Woodrow Stroke a secret and assume his presidential duties.

The Hidden History of the White House is available now from William Morrill, wherever you get your books.

For more than two centuries, the White House has been the stage for some of the most dramatic scenes in American history.

Inspired by the hit podcast, American History Tellers, Wondery and William Morrow present the new book, The Hidden History of the White House.

Each chapter will bring you inside the fierce power struggles, the world-altering decisions, and shocking scandals that have shaped our nation.

You'll be there when the very foundations of the White House are laid in 1792, and you'll watch as the British burn it down in 1814.

Then you'll hear the intimate conversations between FDR and Winston Churchill as they make plans to defeat Nazi forces in 1941.

And you'll be in the Situation Room when President Barack Obama approves the raid to bring down the most infamous terrorist in American history.

Order The Hidden History of the White House now in hardcover or digital edition wherever you get your books.

"

From the team behind American History Tellers comes a new book, The Hidden History of the White House.

Each chapter will bring you inside the fierce power struggles, intimate moments, and shocking scandals that shaped our nation. From the War of 1812 to Watergate.

Available now wherever you get your books.

If you'd like to learn more about other notable First Ladies, you can read about them in a new book inspired by American history tellers. The Hidden History of the White House takes readers inside the iconic seat of American presidential power, revealing 15 behind-the-scenes moments that changed the course of history.

Like First Lady Dolly Madison's efforts to save priceless American artifacts from the British when they burned down the White House in 1814. Or Edith Wilson's decision to keep her husband Woodrow Stroke a secret and assume his presidential duties. The Hidden History of the White House is available now from William Morrow, wherever you get your books.

"

Pre-order your copy of the new American History Tellers book, The Hidden History of the White House, for behind-the-scenes stories of some of the most dramatic events in American history--set right inside the house where it happened.

"

And if you want to learn more about other founding fathers and those who followed in their footsteps to lead America, you can read about them in a new book inspired by American history tellers.

The Hidden History of the White House takes readers inside the iconic seat of American presidential power and reveals 15 behind-the-scenes moments that changed the course of history.

It's available now from William Morrow, wherever you get your books. Follow the link in the show notes to learn more.

"

The genesis of this project was for American history tellers wanting to branch out because they know a lot of the listeners are also passionate readers of American history.

The book is divided in three sections. The first part focuses on different aspects of the construction and renovations of the house.

The one story I remember from the tour was about Dolly Madison saving a famous Gilbert Stewart portrait of George Washington.

And the third section deals with the fact that the White House itself is really a reflection of America on the larger stage.

The first work on the White House was done in 1791, when about 200 enslaved black workers dug the foundation.

"

It's called The Hidden History of the White House, Power Struggles, Scandals, and Defining Moments.

This book was inspired by American History Tellers, the long-running podcast produced by Wondery.

Few places can claim more influence than the White House, which stands as a living monument to the towering figures, hair-breadth moments of crisis, and euphoric triumphs that have defined our country.

This book aims to bring to life the people and moments that have shaped the White House, some known, some not so known, as history was being made.

In our current fraught and divided political climate, understanding the past is essential to understanding a future in which all of our nation's inhabitants can thrive.

"

Pre-order your copy of the new American History Tellers book, The Hidden History of the White House, for behind-the-scenes stories of some of the most dramatic events in American history--set right inside the house where it happened.

"

I remembered hearing about Rick Rubin's book The Creative Act a way of being

and so I went on Audible downloaded it and suddenly just doing household chores also involved me opening up my mind about the creative process and what it takes to be involved in it

there's lots of different ways to pass the time it felt very enriching that this is the way I chose to do it

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One is, without the spiritual component, this is from the chapter called The Unseen, without the spiritual component, the artist works with a crucial disadvantage.

The spiritual component is belief in something bigger, something different, whatever it is. It could be believing in some universal power, believing that if you walk under a ladder, you'll have bad luck.

When looking for a solution to a creative problem, pay close attention to what's happening around you.

Self-expression is not about you.

The work has five mistakes, it's not yet completed. When it has eight mistakes, it might be.

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This is my first book.

It was a long journey for me to get to understand what's in the book, because I can't say that it's things that I know. It's things that I notice.

And the things that we notice are fleeting. So it'll come up and I'll make notes on the things that I'm noticing and they'll work their way into the book.

And that's, I'll say, that's similar to what happens in the recording studios. We tend to record everything because often it happens when you don't know what's happening.

Yes, that's how it happened for me. And I was shocked. It remains shocking, but I'm excited that it's there and now I can use it as a reference tool.

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Just like you might say that you're not a good stoic, people might say or worse believe that they're not creative.

You're either engaging in the practice or you're not, Rubin says.

It makes no sense to say that you're not good at it.

It's like saying, I'm not good at being a monk.

You're either living as a monk or you're not.

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I gotta tell you a book that I think you'll read I was gonna tell Jason about this. I've been talking about this Rick Rubin's book the creator that it is so good. It blew me away like there every now and then I'll read a book I write that down that like you're talking about atomic habits where you're like Oh, this changes a little bit of my perception of things the creative act a way of being

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If you don't already have this book, I highly recommend it. Whether you think you're a creative or not, this is a book that's going to help you tap inward into helping you access a part of yourself that you may not even know exists or refine and deepen a part that does exist.

And then I opened it up and I was like, wait a minute, this is not what I was expecting. And I'm seeing like poetry and I'm seeing like rhymes and I'm seeing just short reflections and some really beautiful, even exercises and activities that you suggest.

And it's like, that's something I would love to help people develop because I think it's a skill, it's a habit. And you talk about habits in the book and we're only as creative as the habits we keep, you say.

This book in itself breaks the construct of what a book is.

It's been performing incredibly well. It's been on the New York Times bestseller list for months now.

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His book is entitled The Creative Act Away Of Being.

The book was given to me when I was about 14 and a half when I was released from a particularly uncomfortable, non-voluntary state of affairs.

It's a beautiful idea.

It's an invitation to think.

It's not clear exactly what the cover design is supposed to be.

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The title of the book is The Creative Act, A Way of Being by Rick Rubin.

This is a book that I've now read three times from cover to cover and I'm now reading it fourth time because it is so rich with wisdom and information that I'm applying in multiple domains of my life, not just my work but my everyday life.

I cannot recommend it highly enough. Rick has an incredible ability to translate his understanding of the creative process in a way that is meaningful for anybody.

If you're in music, if you're a musician it will certainly be meaningful for you but it is not about music, it is about the creative process.

Whether or not you consider yourself somebody creative or not or whether or not you seek to be more creative, Rick's book in today's conversation sheds light on what I believe to be the fundamental features of what makes us human beings.

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It's a way of being in the world, a way of paying attention.

It started with the idea of...I've worked with a lot of artists over the time that I've been doing this.

It's not about music. It's a way of being.

So by never mentioning the artists, the reader is the artist in all of the stories in the book.

It's to know how would I do? How could I do this? How could I look at this problem?

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Rick Rubin's book the creative act I originally didn't plan to write it I just said I'll do all the interviews for the book and you can find a writer because I don't want to you know we're friends and it's okay you need to find the right person for your book but I just want to do all the interviews because I wanted to learn from him because he's produced but everyone Kanye, Jay-Z like Beastie Boys or DMC like Johnny Cash and he's so wise and so I just wanted to learn from him and this is what I think the main thing I learned and it's in the book I'm not trying to make a book be something I'm almost listening to the work and trying to hear what it wants to be so I really learned to take the ego out of the creative process and surrender to the moment and understand there's something being called into existence that's not about me and I'm just trying to guide it there and not get in the way and it was a whole new way of thinking it wasn't an artist centered form of creation it was an art centered form of creation

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He's like, fuck the audience, do your thing.

And that book, like I read it after we worked together and like hearing him talk and like, I mean, he's a big, he practices what he preaches you know.

Because he does try like the way I've explained it is. And he's like, he's like ambassador of music for the human population.

His book, he read it and you're like damn, this is, it's a cool approach to just like sitting, brainstorming, letting like ideas flow, letting him take shape and like creating things.

I think that might have ever lived.

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his great book on creativity is just absolutely amazing. And I highly recommend it.

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He sent me an early copy of the book and asked for some marketing advice which I gave. And then it's been awesome to see this book be just a monster seller which it deserves to be.

I loved the book. Carried at the painted porch.

I think it says something also about Rick and his willingness to get insights and ideas from any source.

I'm hoping that when you're reading it you get a feeling of like I want to stop reading so I want to go make something that was the the hope for the book

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We chose Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential, a total classic.

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I never thought like originally when his book came out Kitchen Confidential, I think a lot of people in the culinary world was like, whatever, this guy was a middling cook.

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It was about this and about that transition going from, you know, the crime scene photography to astrology overnight so he could get into supermarkets. He said the Enquirer staff was aghast. It was like asking an experienced team of grave robbers to take up gardening.

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And if I could have dinner with one person, it probably would be Anthony Bourdain. I don't know, he was someone I really admired. He cooked you a fine meal obviously, plus you just have incredible stories from all over the world. He's someone with such a unique perspective. Whenever I watched him on TV or read his book, catch it confidential, he had just really unique perspectives on things.

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I didn't even know about a lot of this until I read Anthony Bourdain's book.

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I didn't even know about a lot of this until I read Anthony Bourdain's book.

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I didn't even know about a lot of this until I read Anthony Bourdain's book. And I remember being like, oh my god! I'm like what are you people doing back there?

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It just goes to show that, you know, mental health is not someone's mental health is not always apparent, you know, if they can seem very happy and they can seem like they're living their best life. But then, you know, there can also be kind of demons underneath the surface and certainly turned out to be the case with Bourdain.

And it's really caused a lot of news agencies and publications, etc. to really start to have, you know, kind of ethical conversations around this stuff.

So obviously, a documentary film is intended to be entertaining. But what happens when you take the voice of a man who is beloved as Anthony Bourdain was and recreate it using artificial intelligence by feeding it dozens and dozens of hours of available recordings?

And if you're someone that says a bunch of a public figure as Anthony Bourdain, it's going to be, you know, tenfold that what it would be for, you know, folks like us.

So it's like almost like the whole idea or the the I guess the gimmick for lack of a better word is that it's Anthony Bourdain telling his story in his own voice, you know, pulled from different audio books and all the sources that I just mentioned.

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And it just goes to show that, you know, mental health is not someone's mental health is not always apparent, you know, if they can seem very happy and they can seem like they're living their best life.

But this is about ethics in film making.

And it's really caused a lot of news agencies and publications, etc. to really start to have, you know, kind of ethical conversations around this stuff.

But what happens when you take the voice of a man who is beloved as Anthony Bourdain was and recreate it using artificial intelligence by feeding it dozens and dozens of hours of available recordings?

So it's like almost like the whole idea or the the I guess the gimmick for lack of a better word is that it's Anthony Bourdain telling his story in his own voice, you know, pulled from different audio books and all the sources that I just mentioned.

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It's a new documentary about the beloved traveler, world traveler, chef, you know, rec on tour, Anthony Bourdain, who tragically took his own life.

And it just goes to show that, you know, mental health is not someone's mental health is not always apparent, you know, if they can seem very happy and they can seem like they're living their best life.

But this is about ethics in film making.

So it's like almost like the whole idea or the the I guess the gimmick for lack of a better word is that it's Anthony Bourdain telling his story in his own voice, you know, pulled from different audio books and all the sources that I just mentioned.

So it's like the next level kind of powered up version of what they do in the reality television, a lot of what's called frankenbiting, where they take clips of audio, the things that people have said.

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I know Anthony Bourdain has thoughts about eggs Benedict. I would say welcome to food you never order anytime, any place, unless you're at home making the hollandaise sauce fresh on a Sunday morning made with the dew of Mount Olympus and the tears of an angel. I never recommend getting hollandaise sauce. It goes incredibly bad immediately and it's like you're eating a garbage pail kid. Wow. Did not know that. That was a review I just read. That's from a kitchen confidential. He also said don't order fish on Monday. That's right. Don't order fish on Monday unless you're going to a brothel.

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First he had a New York Times bestselling book in their year 2000 titled, Kitchen Confidential, Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly, bestselling book.

Which I understand is a very accurate account.

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first he had a New York Times best-selling book in their year 2000 titled Kitchen Confidential, Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly.

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In fact, first he had a New York Times bestselling book in their year 2000 titled, Kitchen Confidential, Adventures in the Culinary Underbelly, bestselling book.

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Did you read that book? I did. I loved it, but I'm an addict, so I like any addict that are. He was the first guy who didn't sugarcoat anything, and I love that.

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And had you read Kitchen Confidential at any point before you started? Of course.

I was like the idiot young cook who's like, oh this is fucking sick doing blow and staying up all night and boozing it. It's this romanticization of the lifestyle.

I feel like every young cook either watches Top Chef or something had to get you to wanna do it and definitely Tony Bourdain's stuff.

Yeah, I read that book with zero interest in ever being a cook and I was like, oh I would have loved that world. Now I was already sober when I read it but I was like, that would have been great for me.

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And had you read Kitchen Confidential at any point before you started? Of course. I was like the idiot young cook who's like, oh this is fucking sick doing blow and staying up all night and boozing it.

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I read Kitchen Confidential when it first came out.

I find out he's a junkie.

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I had read Kitchen Confidential when it first came out.

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my wife's like, before I started watching him, my wife read Kitchen Confidential's ... and my wife's like, this guy's fucking amazing, Bert.

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And had you read Kitchen Confidential at any point before you started? Of course.

I was like the idiot young cook who's like oh this is fucking sick doing blow and staying up all night and boozing it. It's this romanticization of the lifestyle.

I read that book with zero interest in ever being a cook and I was like oh I would have loved that world.

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If you came to my home and you saw "Seven Habits of Highly Effective People" or you saw "The Power of Habit" by Duhigg you'd go look at Jim man he's successful he's at the top of his game but he still wants to sharpen the point of the sword, this guy look at him you know, he never never satisfied.

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I read some of his books like 10 years ago and all of a sudden I had a chance to interview him and that was cool.

You guys are going to have to go and check that out.

There is a special kind of person in the world, a super communicator, but guess what? Everyone can become a super communicator.

And in that episode he shows us how to do it and what is it that these people do differently than others?

So that's all that I'll say, but definitely go and check out my interview with Charles Huhigg.

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Read one of your original books, The Power of Habit, but I'd like to take a minute to introduce you to our audience.

So for our listeners guys today, I have Charles Duhigg on the show. He is the author of The New York Times bestsellers, The Power of Habit and Smarter Faster Better.

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He wrote a massive best seller called the power of habit which is all about the science of habit formation and he followed that up with a book about the science of productivity called smarter faster better and his latest book is called super communicators.

You have been on, you know, on the scene for a while, but I think it's reasonably safe to say really burst into the national consciousness through a book about habits.

And the answer to how do we make this instinctual is to make it into a habit.

We think of a habit as one thing, but it's actually made up of three parts.

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Charles Duhigg wrote about this as a keystone habit. He said, making your bed every morning is correlated with better productivity, a greater sense of wellbeing and stronger skills at sticking with a budget. That was in his book, The Power of Habit.

I think Charles Duhigg was just a guest on our sibling show, People I Mostly Admire. Yes?

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He said a lot of us grew up watching Friends, the sitcom. They're all matched right, when Ross is surprised, he's like, and his jaw drops and his eyes get really wide. He takes a deep breath in and he pauses and he freezes and every they zoom in on his face so now everybody thinks this is what normal people look like when they're surprised. And so he also brought up Amanda Knox because she was mismatched and we don't trust people who are mismatched. So she wasn't crying and screaming and tearing her hair out when her roommate got murdered. She was like hugging her boyfriend and kissing him a little bit and just staring and they were like she did it based on her eyes or whatever because she was mismatched. That's Gladwell's.

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He wrote The Power of Habit and Smarter, Faster, Better, which talk about productivity, habits, and the science behind it.

Your books are incredibly powerful and I'm just really grateful that we get to have this conversation.

I highly recommend everyone go and grab the book, The Power of Habit because it's been such a powerful book in my own personal life for the last, you know, eight years since I read it or nine years now since I read it

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I know you love the book, The Power of Habit.

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In the power of habit, there's this whole section about how Michael Phelps's coach taught him to visualize every single race...

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In fact Michael Phelps in the power of habit there's this whole section about how Michael Phelps' coach taught him to visualize every single race to what it would feel like for his hand to come out of the water.

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She had mentioned that in her book about stress that you can actually tell people that they seem like the kind of person who can handle this and you see that person feeling better about their own capability and handling a specific situation or problem so that's kind of nice.

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On the next episode, I sit down with Charles Duhigg, the best-selling author of the book The Power of Habit and a journalist who covers the tech industry.

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I've been raving about this book for years and years.

She kept going like multiple times throughout the last month and a half, having been reading this book, Super Communicators.

She is normally not interested in any of the guests on the podcast at all let alone reading the books and she keeps like I would say at least five times she was like so it's reading in this super communicator.

His books have sold a bazillion copies because they're quite good.

We do have signed copies of The Power of Habit and Super Communicators in the painted porch.

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On the next episode, I sit down with Charles Duhigg, the best-selling author of the book The Power of Habit and a journalist who covers the tech industry.

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It's been you know talked about in a number of best selling books before and and well documented by psychologists um books like Power of Habit and Atomic Habits that talk about this beautifully I think...

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I mean Charles, you're hitting the power of habit.

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I actually went up reading the power of habits several years later and I was like oh I kind of did that.

So quick quick quick rundown on what Charles speaks about in the power of how Charles do Hig New York Times reporter who wrote the power of habit by selling book.

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I actually went up reading the power of habits several years later and I was like oh I kind of did that.

quick quick quick rundown on what Charles speaks about in the power of how Charles do Hig New York Times reporter who wrote the power of habit by selling book.

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Charles Duhigg is a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist and the author of The Power of Habit in Smarter, Faster, Better.

Or you can Google Super Communicators or The Power of Habit, which is the first book that I wrote.

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He is also the author of the seminal book on habits, The Power of Habit. Now this book was published in 2012 and it has sold millions of copies and has been translated into 40 languages.

Well, you know your book, The Power of Habits, changed my life. It is the best and it is the seminal and it is the original, incredible book about habits.

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His work and his research, including the global sensation, The Power of Habit. This is the seminal book on habits. It was released in 2012.

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The power of habits, Charles Duhigg, Dr. Wendy Wood.

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Charles Doohigg is a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter and the author of three books. His first, The Power of Habit spent over three years in the New York Times bestseller list.

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We're familiar with The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg or Atomic Habits by James Clear, these are great books that I think have done a nice job popularizing this idea of a habit loop

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I love Charles Duhigg great book on habits.

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He currently writes for The New Yorker, and he's the author of several bestselling books, including The Power of Habit and Smarter, Faster, Better.

Before I actually started this podcast in 2018, the power of habit was actually my favorite book and I had it on audible and I used to listen to it like every three months.

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If you were an environmentalist in the 1960s, your main concern wasn't climate change. It was overpopulation.

And listeners who were old enough might remember the book, The Population Bomb, the fear that the world was going to start to death because there were too many people.

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And then in 1968, in the same sort of social milieu or context, Paul Ehrlich publishes the population bomb.

It is polemical.

It is an alarmist work.

It is meant to shake you when you read it.

And he says it's common famine resource wars, the end of days.

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Paul Ehrlich, who wrote the Population Bomb and is still kicking around, made a very famous bet with an economist Julian Simon.

He asked Simon to propose a basket of commodities and they bet on whether those would be less or more expensive by the year 2000 because that was the doomsday date as far as Dr. Ehrlich was concerned.

And he famously, Simon, who was an absolute genius as opposed to Ehrlich who certainly presumed he was one, famously collected on that bet shortly after the millennium switch because the basket of commodities became far less expensive rather than more expensive.

There was more of everything.

And of course, the entire economic history of the world since that point has indicated exactly that.

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You know, 50 years ago or whatever, 1968, Paul Ehrlich writes the "Population Bomb", and it's just the population is just going to exponentially grow.

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And I don't think we mentioned too that Christian initially said that they had been, he and his people had been working on this idea for 20 years.

And it turned out to not be correct at all.

But at the time again, people were worried about it.

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It points out that the Population Bomb, a 1968 book by Paul Ehrlich that was probably the single most influential inspiration behind modern fears of overpopulation, was also profoundly racist.

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What Ehrlich fails to mention, however, is that while Delhi's population was just shy of 3 million, both New York and Paris housed about 8 million at the time.

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What Ehrlich fails to mention, however, is that while Delhi's population was just shy of 3 million, both New York and Paris housed about 8 million at the time.

Ehrlich's emphasis on an Indian city as the exemplification of overpopulation was part of a large and continuing pattern of focusing blame on the global south and mostly the non-white people who live there as affluent Western Europeans and Americans.

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There was a warning on the cover. While you are reading these words, it said, four people will have died from starvation, most of them children.

And I thought, oh, my gosh. In the edition I read, which is the first edition, said there would be massive famines in the 1970s. Basically, it said we were in deep, deep trouble.

Environmentalists were saying humankind was pushing the Earth's limits. Technologists, meanwhile, said those limits were nowhere in sight.

books like, you know, the Population Bomb and Al Gore's first book, Earth in the Balance, Limits to Growth, all these great environmental classics all stem directly from his work.

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In 1968, Sarah, a Stanford University biologist named Paul Ehrlich published a book, and it was titled The Population Bomb. What was its central message?

The central warning of that book was that we were going to have massive out-of-control population growth, so much so that we were going to increase to about 24 billion people on the planet and that that was just going to be totally unsustainable.

If we do not by humane means limit our numbers, then numbers are going to be limited by more famines and shortages and consequent social conflicts.

That was the time when we actually thought that maximum world population was going to hit about 24 billion by the end of this century.

The story reveals why you see vast changes in fertility rates within a short time frame. To be sure, these changes are uneven across the planet, not just between countries, but within them. But the concerns raised in books such as The Population Bomb or in John Calhoun's terrifying experiment with mice that we wouldn't be able to feed ourselves, that famine and war were inevitable, that horror story has largely not come to pass.

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There was a book that came out in 1970 by Paul Ehrlich, a still admired in some corners and still honored scientist, that was just completely bogus. And it was called The Population Bomb. It said that within a decade or two, there were going to be famines. It was inevitable.

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if we go back to the 1968 book that we all know Population bomb that book forecasted a 20th century starvation Catastrophe but obviously that hasn't come to pass because technological advances have met increased need and worldwide people have Started to have less kids

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He says there's gonna be mass starvation environmental catastrophe Civilization as you dear reader know it will plummet just like the Stephen King book The Stand and interestingly enough in the

original publication of the book old doc early predicts this happening in the 1970s later predictions later editions of the book would move that up a decade to the 1980s, but this

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Okay so a lot of the fear of overpopulation can be traced back to Malthusian theory but a lot of the fear in the modern era can be traced back to a single book written in 1968 by a biologist from Stanford named Paul Ehrlich he wrote a book called the population bomb very very dystopian very pessimistic because he thought that he was talking about an existential crisis.

he said India is doomed you just have to deal with that he said 65 million Americans are going to starve to death and that by his one of his more specific predictions that by the year 2000 England will not exist.

Ehrlich was obviously incorrect but because the book came out in 1968 just a few years before a lot of these policies get western support we can tell you his beliefs the things he espoused in the population bomb got super popular especially with the privileged the hires up at institutions like the World Bank and foundations like Ford and Rockefeller and so they started putting their money and their expertise where their eyes were started like taking this book is inspiration and pushing toward making real world steps that they thought were the perfect steps to eliminate the threat of overpopulation.

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a lot of the fear in the modern era can be traced back to a single book written in 1968 by a biologist from Stanford named Paul Ehrlich he wrote a book called the population bomb very very dystopian very pessimistic because he thought that he was talking about an existential crisis

he said India is doomed you just have to deal with that he said 65 million Americans are going to starve to death and that by his one of his more specific predictions that by the year 2000 England will not exist

Ehrlich was obviously incorrect but because the book came out in 1968 just a few years before a lot of these policies get western support we can tell you his beliefs the things he espoused in the population bomb got super popular especially with the privileged the hires up at institutions like the World Bank and foundations like Ford and Rockefeller and so they started putting their money and their expertise where their eyes were

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He says there's gonna be mass starvation environmental catastrophe Civilization as you dear reader know it will plummet just like the Stephen King book The Stand

later editions of the book would move that up a decade to the 1980s

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Okay so a lot of the fear of overpopulation can be traced back to Malthusian theory but a lot of the fear in the modern era can be traced back to a single book written in 1968 by a biologist from Stanford named Paul Ehrlich he wrote a book called the population bomb very very dystopian very pessimistic because he thought that he was talking about an existential crisis.

he said India is doomed you just have to deal with that he said 65 million Americans are going to starve to death and that by his one of his more specific predictions that by the year 2000 England will not exist.

Ehrlich was obviously incorrect but because the book came out in 1968 just a few years before a lot of these policies get western support we can tell you his beliefs the things he espoused in the population bomb got super popular especially with the privileged the hires up at institutions like the World Bank and foundations like Ford and Rockefeller and so they started putting their money and their expertise where their eyes were started like taking this book is inspiration and pushing toward making real world steps that they thought were the perfect steps to eliminate the threat of overpopulation and yeah of course there is there is such thing as overpopulation it's happening but there are other methods other ways to stem the tide I think is what we're saying here.

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Paul Airelec for example at Stanford who wrote the population bomb in the club of Rome who were the original apocalyptic doom sayers on the environmentalist front claiming that by the year 2000 there'd be mass starvation we'd be running out of basic commodities and that life was going to get a hell of a lot worse quickly

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Ehrlich set up an organization, author of the population bomb of course, called ZPG which evolved into an organization.

Ehrlich and his population bomb and the club of Rome, etc. these anti-population zealots started beating the drum back in 1965, saying that we were all going to starve to death by the year 2000 when we'll have four billion people, God help us and now have eight.

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...most famously who wrote the population bomb that by the year 2000 we'd be out of all our primary resources and everyone would be starving...

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how did early become famous he became famous through the 1968 book the population bomb where he's telling human beings not hey the planet is going to become more impacted and that's intrinsically bad he's saying you're all going to starve and his close colleague Sean Holdren who was Obama's chief science advisor no he probably would have been a great person.

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But a lot of people are still stuck with, you know, Paul Oleg's book, Population Bomb. It's like, ah, that was a long time ago.

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I really think I'm an intellectual granddaughter of Ernest Becker, who famously wrote The Denial of Death.

He was an anthropologist as well and his take was that society everywhere is a living myth of the significance of human life, that we defiantly create meaning where none exists because we do not want to deal with the terror that the ultimate mistake is one that's going to get us killed.

And again, I'm just Becker's granddaughter, because his argument was if we distract ourselves and we try to push down our fears of failing, ultimately that's about our fear of dying, that ironically trying to push all of that down and not talking openly about it creates more problems.

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This is the terror of death. To have emerged from nothing, to have a name, consciousness of self, deep inner feelings and excruciating inner yearning for life and self-expression. And with all this yet to die.

Power means power to increase oneself, to change one's natural situation from one of smallness, helplessness, finitude, to one of bigness, control, durability and importance.

It is still a mythical hero system in which people serve in order to get a feeling of primary value, of cosmic specialness, of ultimate usefulness to creation, of unshakable meaning.

Civilized society is a hopeful belief and protest that science, money and goods make men count for more than any other animal.

necessary and basic dishonesty about oneself and one's whole situation.

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This is the terror of death. To have emerged from nothing, to have a name, consciousness of self, deep inner feelings and excruciating inner yearning for life and self-expression. And with all this yet to die, end quote.

Power means power to increase oneself, to change one's natural situation from one of smallness, helplessness, finitude, to one of bigness, control, durability and importance. End quote.

necessary and basic dishonesty about oneself and one's whole situation. End quote.

kill out of joy, as Becker says.

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Ernest Becker, brilliant Pulitzer Prize winning sociologist, in his book *The Denial of Death* said, the reason people are stingy, the reason we have trouble giving away our money, the reason that we need money so much is we're, we don't want to admit that we're going to be whisked away.

the reason people are stingy, the reason we have trouble giving away our money, the reason that we need money so much is we're, we don't want to admit that we're going to be whisked away.

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The terror management theorist characters, right? Deriving their theories from Ernest Becker.

But he's also deeply wrong. The hero myth that Becker lays out is not an illusion. It's actually the fundamental principle by which adaptation takes place. Because confronting, so confronting a sequence of minor, no, confronting a sequence of minor traumas, let's say is exactly what fortifies you.

And so did the terror management theorists in consequence.

It's also an interesting and compelling alternative to the death anxiety model, because the fundamental enemy in the entropy model isn't death per se.

I don't think all these things we do in life is based on trying to deny death, which is of course Becker's notion.

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the book that got the denial of death it's I think Ernest Becker

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That is the theory proposed. Shout out to our pal Josh Clark, who is out Egypt way now as you hear this.

Well, maybe back. But let me save you some time and say that the thesis of that is exactly as put in the earlier conversation. The concept being that people generally do things that are recreational beyond reproductive or survival needs entirely to distract themselves from mortality.

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I've been reading the the denial of death dude.

It's such a good I like read it for a little bit and put it back down.

It's about how basically most of our deepest insecurities and are kind of like the personas we build so that we can kind of like go out and function in the world or typically build on like a lie or like we like restrict what we pay attention to so that we don't freak out about the fact that we're just like floating through space and we're gonna die.

It's pretty tight.

It's pretty tight.

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I've mentioned this guy scores of times at least, but as the great... Thomas Mann? No. It's Charles Mann, you're thinking of him. Oh, okay. Great psychologist, Ernest Becker.

Shout out to our pal, Joe Randazzo, who's like in the Becker now. Isn't it Ernst? Or is it Ernest? Ernest. Okay. You're thinking of Max Ernst. Okay. Ernest Becker wrote The Denial of Death, the seminal work that basically says we're all just doing everything we can to think about our own demise.

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I've mentioned this guy scores of times at least, but as the great... Thomas Mann? No. It's Charles Mann, you're thinking of him. Oh, okay. Great psychologist, Ernest Becker.

Ernest Becker wrote The Denial of Death, the seminal work that basically says we're all just doing everything we can to think about our own demise.

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I've mentioned this guy scores of times at least, but as the great... Ernest Becker wrote The Denial of Death, the seminal work that basically says we're all just doing everything we can to think about our own demise.

And there is some sort of health, whether it's spiritual, emotional, there's some sort of health or well-being, I think, from facing the fact that you're going to die.

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So I grabbed the next book, The Denial of Death. And again, the first paragraph, Becker writes, the idea of death, the fear of it haunts the human animal like nothing else. It is a mainspring of human activity.

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Well, it's not a great book. It's a very long book called The Denial of Death, which is all about fanatology, the study of death. And in that book, the author posits that everything people do is really just to avoid addressing the fact that up until now, everyone who was ever born has died at some point.

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There's a great...Well, it's not a great book. It's a very long book called 'The Denial of Death', which is all about thanatology, the study of death. And in that book, the author posits that everything people do is really just to avoid addressing the fact that up until now, everyone who was ever born has died at some point.

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It's called The Denial of Death. Mentioned it in past episodes.

You do not have to read it. The thesis is that every single piece of all human technology and all religion and all of what we call society, all all the things that the humans are doing is to distract themselves from the fact that one day they will no longer be around.

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There's a great... Well, it's not a great book. It's a very long book called The Denial of Death, which is all about fanatology, the study of death. And in that book, the author posits that everything people do is really just to avoid addressing the fact that up until now, everyone who was ever born has died at some point.

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That's based on Ernest Becker's work the denial of death which is a great book I think he's fundamentally wrong, but it's a great book nonetheless he's wrong in a very interesting way and he's very, very smart person.

So the denial of death is a great book yeah and I'm familiar with some of the major researchers in in a terror management area. I've met a couple of them and we've had some discussions.

That's why the books called denial of death right at some level you have to deny that that's it right now this and and you have to transform yourself into something symbolic and so one of the arguments that becker made is as humans live in kind of two kind of two worlds we live in the material physical world.

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a modern person is someone who feels like a sinner but has no word for it.

My sense of self comes not from other people but from, from, my sense of self comes not from other people but from myself.

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The worm at the core by Ernest Becker about terror management helped me a little bit with this area...

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I read a book called Denial of Death. It was written years ago by an author who won a Pulitzer and later died of cancer. I don't agree with it; I think it's kind of psychoanalytic babble and I found it didn't resonate with me.

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I read a book by a guy named Ernest Becker called Denial of Death. I don't know if you've ever heard of this book. It was big in the 70s and won the Pulitzer Prize.

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If you read, uh, the denial of death, you learn about this.

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I happen to be reading - it's a hard book, a genuinely difficult book, but I'm really enjoying it. I'm reading Ernst Becker's The Denial of Death. I highly recommend it to everyone. One a Pulitzer, after all.

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In 1972, Ernest Becker wrote a book, which you'll know all about the book based on the title, called The Denial of Death. He won the Pillaritzer Prize for it.

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In his book, Hidden Potential, Adam explores the psychology of how we can become the best versions of ourselves.

In his book, Hidden Potential, The Science of Achieving Greater Things, Adam offers a number of strategies that can help us get where we want to go.

Psychologist Adam Grand says there's less separating us from these high achievers than we might think.

Psychologist Adam Grant works at the University of Pennsylvania. His book is called Hidden Potential. The Science of Achieving Greater Things.

I think Hidden Potential clearly needed to be on Hidden Brain.

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I love it so much that when it comes out, I want to sit down and interview you about it and we'll run the interview in the Revisionist History feed.

I think I've gotten more comfortable realizing, I've gotten so much, I guess, reader feedback and also listener feedback from podcasts.

Like we think again, for example, the idea of valorizing humility as a kind as the kind of cornerstone, the key as the cornerstone of intellectual growth is really interesting and not one.

The lay notion this book is focused on is we have this kind of veneration of innate ability.

I think part of the problem is our country feels too big to invest in everybody.

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"Growth is not about the genius you possess--it's about the character you develop."

Growth is not about the genius you possess but about the character you develop.

In Adam's latest book Hidden Potential, he dismantles the myth that you have to be born with innate qualities to accomplish great things.

I think that's true. What happens is a lot of people try something, they struggle at it, and then they think, I'm not good enough at it to put it out there.

And I think there's something really powerful in that to say we should start using our skills before we feel like we've mastered them.

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Nobody's ever asked me that before. And frankly, I think I've taken for granted that growth is just intrinsically enjoyable and motivating.

I think that's people saying, I'm stuck. I feel like my life isn't going anywhere. I feel like I'm squandering my potential. And I just, I think that's a travesty.

character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experiences of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition inspired and success achieved.

Summoning the nerve to face discomfort is a character skill.

I think that what the evidence shows is that people who are actually given the goal to intentionally feel uncomfortable, this is done in some cases, asking people to go on stage to do improv comedy and literally feel awkward on purpose, they end up growing more from that experience because they put themselves in situations that challenge them.

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In his new book, he investigates how exactly people get better at the things they do.

This one is called Hidden Potential, The Science of Achieving Greater Things.

If our cognitive skills are what separate us from animals, our character skills are what elevate us above machines.

The book is Hidden Potential, the Science of Achieving Greater Things.

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If natural talent determines where people start, learn character effects how far they go, but character skills aren't always immediately apparent.

potential is not about where you begin, it's about how far you can travel

past experience is a terrible predictor of future performance

we want to know do you have the character skills to overcome adversity

His latest book, Hidden Potential, The Science of Achieving Greater Things is out now.

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the nut graph of this book is that achievement is not based on your innate talent and he gives the example of himself being someone who could barely touch his toes to becoming someone who qualified as a junior Olympian as a diver.

It's kind of like Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000 hours, but it's more woo-woo, I think, more scientific and more woo-woo.

I think one of the mistakes that a lot of people make is they assume that if I want to determine what my potential looks like, I've got to either be a genius or I have to be the world's hardest worker. And ideally both. And I don't think that either is actually necessary.

everything has hidden potential. You don't have to be a Wunderkin to accomplish great things.

I'm giving you these comments because I have very high expectations and I'm confident you can reach them.

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I would expect no less.

Well I mean it's it's in the job description right

It is fascinating and I think about this like is it the problem of the individual athlete so you bring on a narcissist and is that narcissism then contagious or actually is it something much more simple where it's the organization saying by hiring this person and then tolerating that behavior saying hey this is an environment in which narcissism is acceptable right so is it I think this is actually what you see when you know when a team makes an exception and brings on Antonio Brown or brings on you know someone who's been recently arrested or gets in trouble all the time or hasn't worked in every other place they've been you know is it actually that person that is the problem or is it the organization stating its values and principles saying hey you know we've always talked about being a team of culture and doing the right thing etc. And then you know now this guy who just got arrested for domestic violence is cheaper on the market so we're going to go ahead and take advantage of that opportunity.

I've come to think of them as seeking discomfort being a human sponge and becoming an imperfectionist

My job.

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I think that seeking discomfort though is about much more than just confronting unpleasant or unwanted thoughts. It's also putting yourself in situations where you are likely to fail, where you might be judged negatively, where you might even embarrass yourself.

So one of the things that happens when you seek discomfort is you will make a lot of mistakes and I found over time that the people who end up growing the most are the ones who are able to tell the difference between an acceptable mistake and an unacceptable mistake.

They're the people who know how to strike a balance between when I need to strive for excellence and when it's okay to say this is good enough. And I think that's a difficult skill.

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His latest is called Hidden Potential, the Science of Achieving Greater Things.

I really wrote this book to try to tackle that problem.

This is a book for anybody who's felt overlooked and underrated.

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Now, most importantly, buckle up for this, a new book out right now called Hidden Potential, The Science of Achieving Greater Things.

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It really made me think about Dante's Inferno, these paintings of suffering people.

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If you read Dante's in Ferno you'll know that at the very bottom of the deepest deepest part of hell it's actually underneath well you get to the deepest part of hell in Dante's in Ferno it's actually not hot it's cold there's a lake of ice and at the very very deepest part of the inferno of hell is Judas the wickedest person ever lived the worst person ever lived and there he is being divided by Satan

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And it's in Dante's Inferno too. Like what's at the bottom of the center of the frozen lake of hell inside of Satan's belly, you come through that into paradise.

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Well that's why Dante outlined levels of hell

Well exactly that and I mean that that book was an investigation into the structure of malevolence right he put betrayal at the bottom which I think is right I think that's right because people who develop post-traumatic stress disorder for example which almost only accompanies and encounter with malevolence rather than tragic circumstances they are often betrayed sometimes by other people but often by themselves and yes there are levels of hell you know and you outlined a couple there

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These books included the whole library of classics, the library of world literature including Dante and Shakespeare and Zola and Montesquieu and Russo and Diderot.

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Harold, before he fell asleep, was reading Dante's Divine Comedy, a little light reading.

midway upon the journey of our life within a dark for nope within a forest dark for the straightforward path had been lost.

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Harold, before he fell asleep, was reading Dante's Divine Comedy, a little light reading.

midway upon the journey of our life within a dark for nope within a forest dark for the straightforward path had been lost.

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If you really want to drill down though to where we get many, many of our ideas of what we think of as hell is Dante, of course, who we mentioned earlier. I did not even know Dante's last name until we researched this, but it's - and there's going to be some great Italian coming up everyone.

And his divine comedy and specifically Inferno, Dante's Inferno is really where we get a lot of what we think of as hell today comes from Inferno as far as - and people even say without even knowing like, oh, the eighth circle of hell and stuff like that.

Like I've been guilty of saying that my whole life and not really understanding what the heck that even meant.

But what's interesting too is so Dante wrote the Inferno or he wrote the divine comedy in the early 1300s. I guess it took him 15 years.

And so, this is the 1300s and he writes about these nine circles of hell, the nine concentric circles of hell. Like that is a really ancient concept even though he divided it and like really enunciated all of the different distinctions in a really popular way.

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One was John Milton's epic poem Paradise Lost and then of course Dante's Divine Comedy. This is where we got the idea that Satan was an angel expelled from heaven because of his pride who then said and I will defeat the Lord.

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If you really want to drill down though to where we get many, many of our ideas of what we think of as hell is Dante, of course, who we mentioned earlier.

And his divine comedy and specifically Inferno, Dante's Inferno is really where we get a lot of what we think of as hell today comes from Inferno as far as - and people even say without even knowing like, oh, the eighth circle of hell and stuff like that.

And so, this is the 1300s and he writes about these nine circles of hell, the nine concentric circles of hell.

Like that is a really ancient concept even though he divided it and like really enunciated all of the different distinctions in a really popular way.

And there's also a very famous inscription over the gates of hell, abandon all hope ye who enter here.

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One was John Milton's epic poem Paradise Lost and then of course Dante's Divine Comedy. This is where we got the idea that Satan was an angel expelled from heaven because of his pride who then said and I will defeat the Lord.

"

If you really want to drill down though to where we get many, many of our ideas of what we think of as hell is Dante, of course, who we mentioned earlier.

And his divine comedy and specifically Inferno, Dante's Inferno is really where we get a lot of what we think of as hell today comes from Inferno as far as - and people even say without even knowing like, oh, the eighth circle of hell and stuff like that.

And so, this is the 1300s and he writes about these nine circles of hell, the nine concentric circles of hell.

Like that is a really ancient concept even though he divided it and like really enunciated all of the different distinctions in a really popular way.

And there's also a very famous inscription over the gates of hell, abandon all hope ye who enter here.

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Whereas Dante in The Divine Comedy describes in great detail where he thought all the souls were.

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there's a point in the divine comedy that Dante's divine comedy his this great master piece of Italian literature when he's leaving purgatory you know it takes his journey through a hell purgatory and he's going into paradise and the last thing he does as he leaves purgatory now he's gonna he's preparing to go into the presence of God and there are two rivers he waits through and drinks from the first river comes from great mythology it's Lathy which is the river of forgetfulness and when he drinks from the river Lathy he forgets all his sins all the negatives of his life he forgets them then he goes to a river that Dante invents is called the river of you know not you know but EU and OE and it means good memory or good mind and he drinks from that one and every good thing he ever did in his life all the good all the positives he remembers so now all sins all negatives all mistakes forgotten and all good remembered he is prepared now to enter into the presence of God

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Yeah, Dante, you're referring to Inferno, which he describes the descent into hell.

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my favorite book is the divine comedy and at the end of the divine comedy Dante Pierce is the skin of the universe and comes face to face with the love that moves the sun and the other stars

I believe that there is a love that moves the sun and the other stars I believe in Dante's vision

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my favorite book is the divine comedy. Then at the end of the divine comedy, Dante pears as the skin of the universe and comes face to face with the love that moves the sun and the other stars. I believe that there is a love that moves the sun and the other stars.

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my favorite book is the divine comedy and at the end of the divine comedy Dante Pierce is the skin of the universe and comes face to face with the love that moves the sun and the other stars I believe that there is a love that moves the sun and the other stars I believe in Dante's vision

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After the Bible it would be Dante it would really be Inferno, Purgatory and Paradise the three parts of Dante's Divine Comedy or if you get rid of that I would do Dante and then I would do Shakespeare.

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It was claimed that... Dante, in his great poem The Divine Comedy, felt able to place Trajan in paradise.

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one of the absolute foundational texts of European and world literature.

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the opening lines of the divine comedy.

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She went to her room to do some homework and then she was going to head to bed. So Lillian went into her bedroom and she just read a book in bed. After reading for some time she went to sleep. ... He sat up in bed for a little while himself reading Dante's Divine Comedy.

The book, Dante's Divine Comedy, was still on his nightstand where he had left it but now it was opened to a certain page. The certain page is Canto 1 and it says, Midway upon the journey of our life I found myself within a forest dark...

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Inferno, page 52. And what color isn't, like, amazing on you? I am in hell, Dante said.

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Inferno, page 52. And what color isn't, like, amazing on you?

I am in hell, Dante said. The critically acclaimed comedy returns.

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I think there's a case for seeing the whole sweep of human history as a very dark comedy... even the very darkest episodes, it's a comedy in the sense that Dante wrote the Divine Comedy.

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I was going to illustrate Dante's Divine Comedy, all 100 cantos or chapters. I was going to do 100 works on each of the 100 cantos, and it would be a 25year project. It began two days before Easter 1975, before everybody here was born. It was supposed to end on Easter the year 2000. And I made it as far as the third canto.

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the representation of hell in Dante's Inferno. You start with the land of venal sins, and then Virgil guides you down the rabbit hole, right to the depths of hell itself.

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you get the impression he's reading Dante, he's reading Chaucer, he's getting interested in those stories and that's driving a lot of this.

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The scene was extremely disturbing, like something out of Dante's Inferno.

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I highly recommend it.

I highly recommend it.

I did it twice because the first time I didn't finish and it bothered me so deeply because I realized that one of my challenges in my early artistic life was having great, tons of great ideas of which I finished none.

I thought, I need to get over this finishing things problem. Right. Why don't I start by finishing The Artist's Way?

You know, one of the things is once a week you have to go on an artist's date alone, by yourself, just you. That could be going to a symphony. That could be sitting in a park and watching people. That could be taking yourself bowling alone.

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So he has this podcast, and he was telling me about this famous self-help book called The Artist's Way. I, of course, had never heard of it. And he said, wait, what?

And the advice that he was passing along to me from the author of this apparently extremely famous self-help book, which was written by and for artists.

And if you're an artist, what you do is you grab a hard copy journal and you write, I think it's four pages. And that's the rule.

It's not about time. It's not about what you write about. But it's just that you write four pages in the morning.

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She's reading The Artist's Way, which I thought was a funny book.

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And then there's a really beautiful book that I think is one of the most important books that I've read in my life called The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron. And that book taught me a lot about bringing spiritual practice into my creativity and into my life as creative practice, but prayer through journaling.

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Julia Cameron is the person who did the to die list and she's an author who wrote the artists way which Lizzie is obsessed with.

I just remembered my mom gave me the artist way when I moved to LA.

It's just one of those books that's always in the thing and I've never read it and I'm going to do it.

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Julia Cameron is the person who did the to die list and she's an author who wrote the artists way which Lizzie is obsessed with.

Yeah, the artist way.

I just remembered my mom gave me the artist way when I moved to LA.

It's just one of those books that's always in the thing and I've never read it and I'm going to do it.

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It's all about creative growth and self reflection and growth and you're bringing up some of these buzzwords that I am uncomfortable about how much they resonate with me.

There's certain phrases that are like shortcuts to tricking people into taking extreme action.

And it's why I worry about the use of certain very specific words and growth is one of them.

Yeah, it just always like, it doesn't mean don't listen to anything that like has that phrase in it or like talks about it, but like be really careful when people start talking about that.

It's attached to a lot of things.

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It's all about creative growth and self reflection and growth and you're bringing up some of these buzzwords that I am uncomfortable about how much they resonate with me.

There's certain phrases that are like shortcuts to tricking people into taking extreme action.

And it's why I worry about the use of certain very specific words and growth is one of them.

Yeah, it's just today I've said it 16 times trying to pitch someone on the book.

It just always like, it doesn't mean don't listen to anything that like has that phrase in it or like talks about it, but like be really careful when people start talking about that.

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It's all about creative growth and self reflection and growth and you're bringing up some of these buzzwords that I am uncomfortable about how much they resonate with me.

Yeah, it just always like, it doesn't mean don't listen to anything that like has that phrase in it or like talks about it, but like be really careful when people start talking about that.

Yeah, it's just today I've said it 16 times trying to pitch someone on the book.

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It's all about creative growth and self reflection and growth and you're bringing up some of these buzzwords that I am uncomfortable about how much they resonate with me.

Yeah, it's just today I've said it 16 times trying to pitch someone on the book.

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There's this, have you ever read The Artist's Way?

Yes.

Julia Cameron.

So she has this quote, which I'm going to butcher right now, but like basically that the quality of your life is the quality of your ability to pay attention, to pay attention to the details.

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There's a famous book called The Artist's Way by Julia Cameron and this practice of morning pages is something that many people have found a lot of, yeah, just incredible experiences from.

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And I really love artists way, Julia Cameron's book for anyone that's approaching a creative writing project.

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And I really love Artists Way, Julia Cameron's book for anyone that's approaching a creative writing project.

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Yeah. So like for me, I was like, oh my gosh, I gotta go take myself on an artist date.

Yeah, highly recommend it.

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It's a 12 week self-led creativity seminar in a book.

It requires you to journal three pages every single morning, first thing.

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I read the Artist's Way and like, in that book the author tells you to really think about the people who've traumatized you creatively and I was like first one, first person I thought of Miss Wood.

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And then I read the artist's way and I did those exercises and that is what broke me through by doing the morning pages almost instantly upon starting the morning pages I was able to write every day.

It's a very specific exercise. It's three long-hand pages. You're not allowed to lift the pen. You're not allowed to go back and reread it. You're not allowed to censor yourself. You have to fill three pages.

It taps into the subconscious somehow. It's sort of like dipping the pen and ink. It's like a way that before you're able to activate your critical, you know we all have like this critic inside us that might try to shut us down or tell us we're not good enough.

It's really great for anyone who wants to do anything tap into the most creative version of themselves.

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and I recently interviewed Julia Cameron from my podcast who wrote this awesome book called The Artistway which a lot of people have cited as being you know this thing that they did they talk about this book as something they did because it gives you work stuff to workshop

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He is the author of eight books including a world without email digital minimalism and deep work which have sold millions of copies and been translated into over 40 languages.

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Well, the new book is Slow Productivity, the Lost Art of Accomplishment without Burnout and I've also written Deep Work, Digital Minimalism, a World Without Email.

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I saw this for example in response to something I suggested in deep work my book from 2016 where I had a very common sense suggestion about email it was called process oriented email but I was like look if we're being very rational about this if you sit and think before you write an email about some sort of project or request if you really think through what really needs to happen here and you spell it out alright here's what we need to do we need to reach this decision here's the steps that are required let me spell out how we should do this let me lay out the process like I'm going to suggest these times I'm going to put them in this document and you take a look on them and everyone takes a look on them and by Wednesday everyone marks which ones that work I'm going to check it on that document Thursday morning I'll pick the time that works in the middle and like you could if you laid out the process of like how the work was going to unfold in your original email you can prevent needing to have another 25 back and forth messages each of which requires a much inbox check it's just much better

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So I have them read Deep Work, and they love it and they discover, oh wow, when I cut my notifications from 500 down to 100 a day, I actually can think for 10 minutes in a row.

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And they're both, I interviewed him recently, really just to solve it, very solid stuff, awesome. Yeah.

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One of his more notable books is entitled Deep Work, Rules for Focus Success in a Distracted World.

Deep Work is a book that has had tremendous positive influence on my work life and indeed my life in general, because it spells out how exactly to go about doing one's best possible work.

For me, that's in the context of science and podcasting, but it includes tools that I and many others have extended to other aspects of their life as well, and it's a book that I highly, highly recommend everybody read.

I can't say that I've adopted all the principles but that's on me not you. You provide incredible incentive for Y1, ought to pursue deep work and slow productivity in service to high quality true productivity etc.

And I always used to say okay when your deep work is not flow because of this like a lot of deep work is you're trying to do something that is beyond your comfort zone and that's going to be difficult where Anders actually explicitly says deliberate practice and flow are very different.

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I'm a big fan of Cal Newport, he wrote the book Deep Work. I believe he was the one who said context switching is terrible for the brain.

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Cal is the author of Deep Work, Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

People who spend a larger proportion of their professional time concentrating intensely on a single high skill or high craft target tend to enjoy their work a lot more.

And there's a lot of different factors about why that might be true, but I ended by saying a deep life is a good life.

Cal Newport is the author of the book Deep Work Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

I'm speaking to Cal Newport, a Georgetown University computer science professor who's the author of the book Deep Work.

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Cal is the author of Deep Work, Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

I ended up adding a chapter to the book that was not in the original proposal that was all about these findings I kept coming across and these stories I kept coming across about deep living also just being good living.

Cal Newport is a computer science professor at Georgetown University. He's the author of Deep Work, Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

It's about how we can cultivate the ability to focus on work free of all distraction.

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Cal is the author of Deep Work, Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

I'm talking with Cal Newport. He's a computer science professor at Georgetown University and the author of Deep Work, Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

Cal Newport is the author of the book Deep Work, Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

I'm speaking to Cal Newport, a Georgetown University computer science professor who's the author of the book Deep Work.

Cal Newport is a computer science professor at Georgetown University, and he's talking about his book Deep Work, Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

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Cal is the author of Deep Work, Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

I'm speaking to Cal Newport, a Georgetown University computer science professor who's the author of the book, Deep Work. It's about how we can cultivate the ability to focus on work free of all distraction.

Cal Newport is a computer science professor at Georgetown University. He's the author of Deep Work, Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World.

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I was on vacation and I read Cal Newport's book Deep Work which is one of the best books I've ever read he wrote another book called it was like the war on email or like why we shouldn't be using email he famously is completely offline I don't know what his argument was but I already am on board actually we had him on the show I think you were not here for that segment I think Marshall was in at that time but we interviewed him he was here on Breaking Points

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I read Cal Newport's book Deep Work which one of the best books I've ever read

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right before it started Rising with You I was on vacation and I read Cal Newport's book Deep Work which is one of the best books I've ever read

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I read Cal Newport's book Deep Work, which one of the best books I've ever read

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I was on vacation and I read Cal Newport's book Deep Work which is one of the best books I've ever read he wrote another book called it was like the war on email or like why we shouldn't be using email he famously is completely offline I don't know what his argument was but I already am on board actually we had him on the show I think you were not here for that segment

"

I read Cal Newport's book Deep Work which one of the best books I've ever read

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definitely check out my episode with Cal Newport on focusing in a busy world that was episode 159

He also wrote a killer book about focus called Deep Work

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including So Good They Can't Ignore You, Digital Minimalism, and Deep Work,

Now back in my book, Deep Work, I hinted at this.

I used them in my book Deep Work as an example of like what you were saying like well maybe executives have to be more responsive and it's a different type of job but then I heard after that book came out from one of his early stage investors that said oh that's not a valid way to think about what Jack is doing here.

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speaking of which grab Cal Newport's books he's got deep work and digital minimalism he'll show you why I'm right about this social media stuff and he'll help you strike the right balance listen to my earlier podcast with Cal Newport as well it'll help you let go of the idea that you need any of this social media stuff and we'll link to his we'll link to Cal's books in the show notes here

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Gary Kespereff told me...one of the ideas from the book is chess algorithms are actually still kind of hard and clunky for computers...

and one of the moves that computers were doing in chess games is shortly as a few years ago was doing things like sacrificing the queen...

but it was rare and then the computers were like oh I'm just going to sacrifice my queen first because whenever are this players about to win they sacrifice their queen...

yeah you can't do that to get to the victory part yeah the victory part right right and then you do that yeah and the computer doesn't really know that...

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grab Cal Newport's books he's got deep work and digital minimalism he'll show you why I'm right about this social media stuff and he'll help you strike the right balance listen to my earlier podcast with Cal Newport as well it'll help you let go of the idea that you need any of this social media stuff and we'll link to his we'll link to Cal's books in the show notes here

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Gary Kespereff told me...one of the ideas from the book is chess algorithms are actually still kind of hard and clunky for computers...we're really bad...it was like the longer you waited the better move the computer would come up with because it took forever...and one of the moves that computers were doing in chess games is shortly as a few years ago was doing things like sacrificing the queen...

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definitely check out my episode with Cal Newport on focusing in a busy world that was episode 159

He also wrote a killer book about focus called Deep Work and the other one I think is called a world without email those are both linked in the show notes as well

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author of many amazing books, including So Good They Can't Ignore You, Digital Minimalism, and Deep Work, all of which kind of rock the world of productivity and focus and all that, if there is a world of productivity.

Now back in my book, Deep Work, I hinted at this.

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And Marty said that what made it really compelling as a story was the arc, the fact that Oppenheimer in 1945 was hailed as America's most distinguished scientist. His image was on the cover of Time and Life. And then nine years later he's brought down and humiliated in this trial, this kangaroo court proceeding and he becomes a public non-entity.

But Marty said that what made it really compelling as a story was the arc, the fact that Oppenheimer in 1945 was hailed as America's most distinguished scientist. His image was on the cover of Time and Life. And then nine years later he's brought down and humiliated in this trial, this kangaroo court proceeding and he becomes a public non-entity.

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I happen to be reading the Oppenheimer book, He spent all this time out, He loved New Mexico.

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The storyline I predict for Monday morning, we're gonna be talking about how Oppenheimer are swept the Oscars.

If you look at all the precursors and those are the best tea leaves that we have, right, the producers Guild Awards, that's the best predictor of what's going to win best picture because they use the same preferential ballot system and also the producers are the ones in voting there.

So that one Oppenheimer won for that.

So you have Oppenheimer and Barbie, as you mentioned. I think two fantastic picks.

And those were the movies of 2023. And I always like to think about when you look back, when you do the 10-year look back, right? What are the movies that define that year? And Oppenheimer and Barbie are the movies that define that year.

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His book, *American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer*, was the basis for Christopher Nolan's film, *Oppenheimer*.

And the movie starts when Oppenheimer is a college student in his 20s.

This film is based on the biography of Oppenheimer, American Prometheus, which you co-authored.

And so he spent the next four months alone writing a script.

And only in September of 21 did he contact me and he invited me to come up to New York to meet him.

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If you'd like to learn more about the Manhattan Project, we recommend American Prometheus by Kai Bird and Martin J. Sherwood,

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If you'd like to learn more about The Manhattan Project, we recommend American Prometheus by Kai Bird and Martin J. Sherwood, and Bomb!

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Oppenheimer is based on a 721 page Pulitzer Prize winning book about the Manhattan Project.

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And man, I helped get into the business, Chuck Rovin, uh, the three of us together, David and I brought Chuck a book called American Prometheus and said, do you think you can call your associate and friend, uh, Chris Nolan, see if you could get him interested in this project that we've been trying to get off the ground for five years.

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And the three of us together, David and I brought Chuck a book called American Prometheus and said, do you think you can call your associate and friend, uh, Chris Nolan, see if you could get him interested in this project that we've been trying to get off the ground for five years.

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American Prometheus

do you think you can call your associate and friend, uh, Chris Nolan, see if you could get him interested in this project that we've been trying to get off the ground for five years.

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She contacted me and said, do you know about this film? And this was in January of this year. And I said, I certainly do. They filmed it here. And she said, we need to reach out to them. They need to tell at least part of the history of the Downwinders.

And he said he would do what he could. And he got back to us and said they're not interested.

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Oppenheimer is based on a 721 page Pulitzer Prize winning book about the Manhattan Project.

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Oppenheimer is based on a 721 page Pulitzer Prize winning book about the Manhattan Project and Barbie is on a plastic doll with big boobies.

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Oppenheimer is based on a 721 page Pulitzer Prize winning book about the Manhattan Project.

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Oppenheimer is based on a 721 page Pulitzer Prize winning book about the Manhattan Project. And Barbie is on a plastic doll with big boobies.

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And it's a very difficult, I read that book. It was a very difficult book, great book, but difficult to read and to keep track of.

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Yeah. I mean, it's interesting to read this book and then see the movie and see all of the stuff that's pulled almost verbatim out of it.

But this is a very, very faithful adaptation of the book, American Prometheus. Mills By the way, the book itself was tremendously long, I thought.

I mean, like the book is very interesting to me because it is a classic of a very specific sort of history of mid-century America that is written by progressives, by liberals.

And the book goes into this, the movie didn't have time for it, but later after the war, Oppenheimer went through a period, I think of kind of naivete where he thought perhaps there could be an international commission or agency that would control nuclear power and everybody would agree to it.

There's a line in the book, you know, the authors are saying he had become convinced that the military use of the bomb in this war might eliminate all wars.

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I'm planning on doing is I have the book, American Prometheus. I think I'm going to try to read it before I even see the movie.

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For me, it was really a process of saying, okay what's the exciting story that develops, the cinematic story that develops from a reading of it, from several readings of it. I had this extraordinary sort of Bible to work from. And so for me, it was really a process... I had the benefit of this extraordinary book, American Prometheus that was written... Martin Sherwin who first started writing it, he spent 25 years researching Oppenheimer's story... it won the Pulitzer Prize.

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My first book was the happiness hypothesis it was about ancient wisdom and all that ancient civilizations and societies learned about how to live a good life and have a good society.

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This idea in chapter four of your book of focusing less on yourself leads to happiness. How can you prove that's the case?

So there's a lot of experimental tests that actually show this using human subjects.

If you give money away, statistically, you're more likely to make more money next year.

The reason is because you see yourself as an agent of positive change.

You're empowered when you're helping other people.

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His book "The Happiness Hypothesis", I'm in the middle of right now.

It's so fantastic, it's so crucial for people that want to understand their own personal biases.

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In Jonathan Heitz book The Happiness Hypothesis he talks about three methods to deal with depression and this is over simplified but it's just a given idea here. Meditation, cognitive behavioral therapy or medication but this isn't a decision that you should make on your own especially if you're already seeing someone about this if you're seeing a therapist.

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In Jonathan Heitz book The Happiness Hypothesis he talks about three methods to deal with depression and this is over simplified but it's just a given idea here. Meditation, cognitive behavioral therapy or medication but this isn't a decision that you should make on your own especially if you're already seeing someone about this if you're seeing a therapist.

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so the happiness hypothesis finding modern truth in ancient wisdom chapter seven is the uses of adversity the ancients knew that you actually need adversity in order to grow

great on truth number two is a violet is the exact negation of chapter two of the happiness hypothesis changing your mind let's see page 23 what do the ancients have to say about this the whole universe is change and life itself is but what you deem it that's marcus areilius

life is a battle between good people and evil people that's great untruth number three chapter four of the happiness is the faults of others so if we turn to page 59 let's see what the ancients had to say on this score why do you see the spec in your neighbor's eye but you do not notice the log in your own

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In Jonathan Heitz book The Happiness Hypothesis he talks about three methods to deal with depression and this is over simplified but it's just a given idea here. Meditation, cognitive behavioral therapy or medication but this isn't a decision that you should make on your own especially if you're already seeing someone about this if you're seeing a therapist.

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the ape who understood the universe by steve stewart uh the moral animal by robert wright the happiness hypothesis by jonathan height um richard reeves of boys and men uh billy no mates another good book

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The myth of pure evil is the ultimate self-serving bias, the ultimate form of naive realism.

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Jonathan Haidt is a professor of ethical leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business. He's the author of The Happiness Hypothesis, Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom, and The Righteous Mind, Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion.

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Oh, so you've read my first book, The Happiness Hypothesis?

So, yeah, so just that book was a collection of 10, it was an analysis of 10 ancient ideas. And it turns out that the ancients, as Christa was saying, it's a great repository of wisdom about human relationships.

And one thing that you find in most of the great wisdom traditions is the idea that reality as we see it is an illusion, it's a veil, it blinds us. And enlightenment is taking down the veil, seeing things as they are, transcending dualities.

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Jonathan Haidt is a professor of ethical leadership at New York University's Stern School of Business. He's the author of The Happiness Hypothesis, Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom, and The Righteous Mind, Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion.

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There's a great book on the happiness hypothesis.

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So it came about as I was writing my first book, The Happiness Hypothesis and I was teaching Psych 101 at the time at the University of Virginia and I was trying to explain all of psychology in 24 lectures

And like the first one you find pretty much is the mind is divided into parts that sometimes conflict

In the happiest hypothesis of what I did was I looked for all of the psychological claims that had been made across multiple millennia and multiple continents.

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He would have probably become aware of him with the coddling of the American mind or the righteous mind or the happiness hypothesis.

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Jonathan Haidt wrote a book, The Happiness Hypothesis.

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I think there's a book, Jonathan Haidt wrote a book, The Happiness Hypothesis.