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Nancy's love story could have been ripped right out of the pages of one of her own novels.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries. So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife Nancy, we weren't that surprised.

The first person they look at would be the spouse. We understand that's usually the way they do it. But we began to wonder, what if she was the one who killed her husband?

But we began to wonder, had Nancy gotten so wrapped up in her own novels? There are murders in all of the books. That she was playing them out in real life?

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Nancy's love story could have been ripped right out of the pages of one of her own novels. She was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries.

So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife Nancy, we weren't that surprised.

We understand that's usually the way they do it.

But we began to wonder, had Nancy gotten so wrapped up in her own novels...

She was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef but this story didn't end with a happily ever after.

As writers we'd written our share of murder mysteries so when suspicion turned to Dan's wife Nancy we weren't that surprised.

We understand that's usually the way they do it but we began to wonder had Nancy gotten so wrapped up in her own novels. There are murders in all of the books.

Nancy's love story could have been ripped right out of the pages of one of her own novels. She was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef. But this story didn't end with a happily ever after.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries. So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife Nancy, we weren't that surprised.

We understand that's usually the way they do it. But we began to wonder, had Nancy gotten so wrapped up in her own novels... There are murders in all of the books. ...that she was playing them out in real life?

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries. So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife Nancy, we weren't that surprised.

There are murders in all of the books.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries. So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife, Nancy, we weren't that surprised.

There are murders in all of the books.

She was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef. But this story didn't end with a happily ever after.

As writers we'd written our share of murder mysteries so when suspicion turned to Dan's wife Nancy we weren't that surprised.

There are murders in all of the books.

As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries. So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife, Nancy, we weren't that surprised.

There are murders in all of the books.

If you're in the mood for a shocking psychological thriller check out None of This Is True by Lisa Jewell.

And I completely recommend Lisa Chuel's None of This Is True.

It's such a great mystery thriller.

And I completely recommend Lisa Chuel's None of This Is True. It's such a great mystery thriller.

And I completely recommend Lisa Chuell's None of This Is True.

It's such a great mystery thriller.

And I completely recommend Lisa Chuel's None of This Is True. It's such a great mystery thriller.

If you're in the mood for a shocking psychological thriller, check out None of This Is True by Lisa Jewell.

I completely recommend Lisa Chuell's None of This Is True. It's such a great mystery thriller.

And I completely recommend Lisa Chuel's None of This Is True. It's such a great mystery thriller.

So rugged, a peak district. Windy, it's wild.

Inspired books like Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre.

And it looks very good.

So I think it's a serialised retelling of the Talented Mr Ripley.

Ripley. Ripley yeah. Ripley.

Today's case is the tale of the sociopathic escapades of the conman, kidnapper and murderer Christian Gerhardt-Strider.

And this guy Christian G has also been called by quite a few people out there and I would agree with this the real life Talented Mr Ripley.

So there you go guys it is the real life Talented Mr Ripley.

They're in Jesus Freaks.

The best of the books is Jesus Freaks.

Okay, yes, I've heard of Jesus Freaks.

Christine even wrote a much praised book called The Spark about raising a gifted child.

Didn't she write a book about it?

She did write a book about it called The Spark.

So yes, yeah so we're going to go through the timeline of all of those things that makes any sense.

She's just homeschooling him, she's just homeschooling him, but do you see she's trying to build this reputation of this organization that she is the head of, that turns children with autism into geniuses, because Jacob is definitely on the spectrum, his diagnosis like there's no doubt about that, so she is saying this is who I am, I can make any child a genius, look I can do it with special needs kids, that's her whole pack.

Christine even wrote a much praised book called The Spark about raising a gifted child.

So the Mirror had won, the Express conceded, they all got pissed together and that was the end of it. Joyce was never taken to trial and the whole thing fizzled out. As for Kirk Anderson he's back in Utah now and still doesn't take press calls. The doggedly loyal Keith died of kidney failure in 2004 and Steve Moskowitz has vanished entirely. Joyce herself sidled back into the press in 1984 after she was caught lurking outside Salt Lake City airport where Kirk Anderson worked at the time. She was charged with harassment and lying to police but she never showed up to her trial and the case was dismissed. Joyce did become briefly involved with the Right to Life movement and popped up outside abortion clinics but that hobby didn't last long. She can't help herself like she needs it like she I've never come across someone who so desperately needs people to be talking about her and we've given her what she wants unfortunately. Joyce lives in a house near the Kentucky border now with a small menagerie of animals and there's all sorts of stories of like she has horses and one of the horse's legs go missing and then she's convincing a teenage boy to break into someone else's house like there's just a lot of really weird stuff going on but she claims that she no longer has anything to do with men and she quotes Bridget Bardot and the famous quote is I gave my beauty and my youth to men I'm going to give my wisdom and experience to animals okay Joyce oh my god but when it comes to animals she did a little bit more than give them wisdom or experience. Joyce had a favourite dog called Booger and when Booger died Joyce couldn't imagine her life without him so she rang Dr Jin Han Hong in South Korea and she gave him $150,000 and then Dr Hong used a tissue sample from Booger the first and cloned five baby Boogers who Joyce named Booger Hong, Booger Burger, Booger Raw, Booger Mac and Booger Pug. Is that five? Anyway she gives them Korean surnames is what I'm getting at and Joyce lives with her cloned dogs and she's still working on her book about Kirk Anderson which she has called A Very Special Love Story. I mean all the stuff with Kirk all the stuff with Booger really shows you a woman who doesn't like to be left. No she can't she doesn't know how there are lots of things that we can't agree on with this story uh there's a lot of hearsay it doesn't help that never goes to trial etc etc etc but I think we can all agree that everything you just heard is absolutely not a love story. No whatever Joyce McKinney would have you believe so there you go. Joyce McKinney absolutely Coco Bananas. I can't even she just keeps coming she keeps coming with it she can't stop. No no she cannot and she will not but we're gonna stop now we're gonna stop talking about Joyce McKinney we're gonna stop thinking about her. Hopefully you enjoyed that episode and go get your tickets. Yes absolutely. For the North American tour if you have not yet done so we cannot wait to see you all on the road and um I don't know we'll see you then. Be good. Bye.

What's really interesting is the book called Joyce McKinney in the case of the Manicled Mormon the foreword is like this is a period piece this is what it was like in Fleet Street and I think it's quite a it's just quite an interesting angle because I don't think the role of the press can be overstated at all.

This is what it was like in Fleet Street.

So rugged, a peak district. Windy, it's wild.

Inspired books like Wuthering Heights and Jane Eyre.

She was already on book number two in the Wrong Never Felt So Right series.

And she was determined to get through all five books by the end of her trip.

Every book was more or less the same.

Burley, former Navy SEAL, comes to the rescue of beautiful young woman on the run from her dangerous husband.

It was an odd choice of reading for a honeymoon.

We've talked about this f**king ad nauseum in the book go check it out it's all in there

And it had been 12 years since she'd helped Truman Capote research and write the true crime sensation In Cold Blood.

Dive into the chilling new Hulu original series Under the Bridge, the riveting adaptation of the best selling true crime book.

Based on shocking true events, Under the Bridge tells the haunting story of a murder that lays bare a small community's darkest secrets.

It was quite long, but importantly it included the story of one night where Roderick read aloud a violent scene from a Herman Hesse novel and then grabbed Helena by the shoulders, shouting, I am a murderer. I am a murderer.

Frankenstein was published in 1818, long before spies were getting nuclear scientists off their nut and asking them questions about fission.

If you are familiar with His Dark Materials trilogy, the beginning of Northern Lights is all about trepanning.

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In that spoilers the main character also runs off to a helpless ex-boyfriend who was smitten with her

OJ Simpson, If I did it by Sareeti Butler.

And thanks to author Casey Koepp, who picked up where Harper Lee left off with her book, Furious Hours, Murder, Fraud and the Last Trial of Harper Lee, we bring you this episode on Alabama's alleged serial killing, voodoo preacher, Reverend Willie Maxwell.

Armin read Robinson Crusoe as a child and was fascinated with the section where Crusoe rescues Man Friday from a cannibal tribe threatening to eat him.

This started off Armin's fascination with eating other people.

But that passage of Robinson Crusoe where the cannibal tribe want to eat man Friday is responsible for so much so many problematic images of tribal communities.