The Jordan Harbinger Show

And by the way, if people buy the books, please use the links in our show notes. It helps support the show, but I read this book quite a while ago and reread it a little more recently.

the book the exorcist came out in 1971 just one year after both the publication of Yanov's The Primal Scream and John Lennon's album

it inspired the raw production and stripped back tracks of his plastic ono album in 1970 the album's lyrics address his difficult childhood and the strain of being one of the Beatles

Johnna Mendes, former chief of disguise in the CIA's Office of Technical Service and author of the new book, In True Face, A Woman's Life in the CIA Unmasked.

The book that I read was Under Fire came out in I think 1991, right?

And you were on trial for the Iran Contra affair and we'll talk about that in a second.

And I remember watching this as a... I guess I was probably seven or eight when it was live on TV. And my parents were trying to explain to me what happened.

You said you found out that you had been fired by Reagan when you saw it on TV.

In your first book, you did talk about your father's death and you mentioned that he died peacefully in his own bed. And years later, you were glad that he didn't have to go through the stress of the investigation like your mother did.

I was interested in self-awareness just because I've been an executive coach and an organizational psychologist for the last 15 or so years. And I had noticed that this term had become just this huge buzzword, you know, seemingly overnight.

And it also presents an interesting challenge for writing a book about this because in some sense the people who most need this material and this book might be the least likely to read it.

I tell the story in my book inside about a time when one of my friends who I'd known for 10 years told me that even though I'd come a long way all of my friends thought that I was really high maintenance when I first met them.

Big thanks to Tasha Yurick her book is called Insight the surprising truth about how others see us how we see ourselves and why the answers matter more than we think.

really enjoyed this read again not a lot of people talking about self awareness except for people that are woefully unself aware I would say so this is an interesting conversation the book is a worthy read

So Milan Kundera in The Unbearable Lightness of Being, he wrote about sexuality as uncovering the one millionth or something like that, that you can only see in the act of sex.

He wrote about a protagonist who kept cheating on his wife. And he said like, his wife's friends were nowhere near as beautiful as her. They were nowhere near as intelligent or interesting or sexy or whatever it might be. But they had one thing she didn't have, which was that they weren't her.

Yeah, no, that's a line from Stephen King. This is kill your darlings even if it breaks your heart.

I interviewed a ton of people on my show and wrote a book called Game Changers that's just coming out and one of the rules that these are 46 laws based on my interview and just my love of Robert Green's work

So when you saw his film, the red chapel, you thought, wow, this kind of reminds me of East Germany and West Germany, how they were separated and how kind of oppressed East Germans were. So that's what got you interested.

so that's our take. If you explicitly lied, then you might have to come clean, but you're going to have to weigh the upside of that against the considerable downside. If you did not explicitly lie, then you almost certainly do not have to come clean and you should really investigate your own reasons for wanting to do so. If you need more legal insight, book a call with a security clearance attorney and get their advice. It'll be worth the money to just have that opinion and all the rest of this, Gabe's right, that's probably between you and your therapist and going forward. And for anyone else listening who might find themselves in a situation like this one day, here's the takeaway: do not lie under oath, do not sleep with your co-workers, especially if they are shacked up and/or engaged to somebody else. You'll save yourself a ton of grief in your life if you just follow these two rules, especially if you have a security clearance or you work in a high pressure field like this. I know life can get messy, it doesn't have to be, a good question to ask yourself is, will I regret doing this in a year? Will I have to lie or cover my tracks because of this? If the answer is yes, just walk away every single time.

air your dirty laundry on a polygraph like your I don't know, Madame and Son of The Good Shepherd or something like that.

I was surprised actually to read that Art Crime is a $6 billion dollar a year industry.

I thought it was interesting in the book, you mentioned that these guys are not in it because they love art. It's just pure greed.

I read in your book that thieves, and this was, it made me like cringe so hard. Often thieves destroy the art if they know they're being investigated.

You wrote that you have to see the good in your target. Otherwise, you'll just see the people who stole the Zart as evil and that inhibits you in your undercover works.

You mentioned something that I thought was actually quite genius in the book. And I'm not sure if I'm reading into this too much, but you call this the decoy, where you find a bond with the target that doesn't have anything to do with the case at hand.

there's a book called What the Dormouse Said which is all about how the counter culture and silicon valley merge so much of the techno utopian dreams singularity Kevin Kelly like we will become as gods and extend our intelligence came from inspiration that came out of the sort of psychedelic vision

You're the author of The Power Paradox, I've read that, it was fantastic. It was kind of something a little unexpected in that it's not, I don't want to say an academic look at power, but it certainly you've taken more of a careful look at power than most people who even write about power.

It's not just look people in the eye when you shake hands and you'll get power, and it's not these little techniques and tricks, but it's a real study.

I can recommend if you're into this subject matter.

The Power Paradox is what I think is one of the most important laws of human behavior, and it's this really interesting irony, which is that people get power by advancing the interest of other people, be it in a school or work.

And then the paradox begins, which is once you feel powerful you lose all the skills that advance the interest of others and got you power in the first place.

Basically I watched the movie The Motorcycle Diaries which is like a romanticized version of Che Guevara traveling around South America relying on kindness and there was something about that movie that really touched me right in the center of my heart