The Jordan Harbinger Show

I know you'd hated blindness at first because I think you'd mention this in the book or at least in one of the documentaries you said it represented helplessness and the unknown

I think you'd said in the book it doesn't matter how many perfect steps you take if you make one mistake the mountain won't tolerate it

Yeah for sure and I find humans are very similar you know kids going through any kind of struggle I mean you might be blind or you might struggle with depression I mean obviously those are different things but when you get really deep down the feelings that you have about them the psychological stuff that happens around that challenge are very very similar and so one of the premises behind No Barriers is to unite that umbrella group of challenges and say hey you know when we have successes we feel pretty proud and egotistical but when we have challenge it's kind of something that unites us as human beings and how do you lean into each other and try to figure out how to learn from each other you know to learn some cool things about each other about each other's challenges and also figure out what we all have in common what every human being has in common when you struggle through life

I hated being removed from things and you're at 100% right I hated being looked down on I have to admit that you know it is ego but it would like feel like you know people were sort of treating you like they felt sorry for you and they had gloves on and you were maybe the way I described it No Barriers was like you're like an egg that had cracked in the hallway and everyone's sort of stepping around it you know kind of awkwardly what do I do here

one of the premises behind No Barriers is to unite that umbrella group of challenges and say hey you know when we have successes we feel pretty proud and egotistical but when we have challenge it's kind of something that unites us as human beings and how do you lean into each other and try to figure out how to learn from each other you know to learn some cool things about each other about each other's challenges and also figure out what we all have in common what every human being has in common when you struggle through life that to me is a super powerful feeling

Yeah for sure and I find humans are very similar you know kids going through any kind of struggle I mean you might be blind or you might struggle with depression I mean obviously those are different things but when you get really deep down the feelings that you have about them the psychological stuff that happens around that challenge are very very similar and so one of the premises behind No Barriers is to unite that umbrella group of challenges and say hey you know when we have successes we feel pretty proud and egotistical but when we have challenge it's kind of something that unites us as human beings and how do you lean into each other and try to figure out how to learn from each other you know to learn some cool things about each other about each other's challenges and also figure out what we all have in common what every human being has in common when you struggle through life that to me is a super powerful feeling to walk away from a trip with that kind of connection with these kids we visited you know disability schools and in that area in a school for the deaf and to be honest American kids no matter what your disability is you're pretty darn fortunate.

reading your book, caveat and tour it wasn't super surprising that you kind of started off as a student who didn't really care about school daydream to lot.

and kind of half jokingly said read the story and maybe you could do the same thing. Maybe you could make some fakes and sell them because Tom noted that my style of painting had the stamp of the old masters in all the technique that I incorporated and everything I did.

the book went into the basic principles of how he made forgery.

So it was very basic. Again, I guess in the brishness of youth I followed the instructions that I in the book and I made my first fake.

the book title is caveat emtor grace idol for somebody who wrote a book about forgery and selling forgeries links to that will be in the show notes

reading your book, caveat and tour it wasn't super surprising that you kind of started off as a student who didn't really care about school daydream to lot.

It recounted the history of a famous art forgery named Van Migrin who worked in the 1940s and he was very successfully paint.

He created Dutch masters cracked them, aged them and he sold them and made a lot of money for himself.

Tom gave me this book and kind of half jokingly said read the story and maybe you could do the same thing.

the book went into the basic principles of how he made forgery.

reading your book, caveat and tour it wasn't super surprising that you kind of started off as a student who didn't really care about school daydream to lot.

Tom gave me this book and kind of half jokingly said read the story and maybe you could do the same thing. Maybe you could make some fakes and sell them because Tom noted that my style of painting had the stamp of the old masters in all the technique that I incorporated and everything I did.

the book went into the basic principles of how he made forgery.

the fake has to be above all logical and what I used to do was when I targeted a particular artist for my work I did a lot of research I spent a lot of money on books on that particular artist I would cut out every print that was significant to my work out of the book and throw the book away I got large sheets of foam board and I created what I called a visual flow chart of the artist's work so I could see the evolution of his work in one glance and I would look for an area in that evolution where I could create another painting that would be on that same wavelength that would have the same characteristics so that an expert could look at it and logically place that painting in a certain time and place in the artist's work and that takes a lot of research and a lot of contemplation and study that's what success is all about I always said that if you want a fooling expert you have to have all the knowledge that the expert has and more to be able to make a high-class fake and sell it and that's what I did

the book title is caveat emtor grace idol for somebody who wrote a book about forgery and selling forgeries links to that will be in the show notes there's also worksheets for each episode including this once you can review what you've learned here from Ken perennie

I have a chapter in 'You Are Awesome' called 'lose more to win more'.

The concept of my new book, 'You Are Awesome', came from an untouchable day.

It's published in some HBR books. I'm like this is gotta be a chapter in the book because there isn't ingredient to curing some of the anxiety that we're suffering.

The book title is 'You Are Awesome'. He's got multiple books, so look for 'You Are Awesome: How to Navigate Change, Wrestle with Failure, and Live an Intentional Life'.

The reason the book's called 'You Are Awesome', by the way, it's because I'm trying to tell people on run you really are.

I lay out all the other blogs I tried along the way and they were endless mess ups.

So what I would say to you about your book is you know what? Your first book might stink but your fourth book might be awesome and you won't know that till you get the first one out.

I have a chapter in 'You Are Awesome' called lose more to win more.

I brought a whole chapter about it in the new book how to do it, how to design.

The book title is 'You Are Awesome', he's got multiple books, so look for 'You Are Awesome: How to Navigate Change, Wrestle with Failure, and Live an Intentional Life'.

I lay out all the other blogs I tried along the way and they were endless mess ups.

So what I would say to you about your book is you know what? Your first book might stink but your fourth book might be awesome and you won't know that till you get the first one out.

I have a chapter in You Are Awesome called lose more to win more.

I'm trying to tell people on run you really are and we are looking at Instagram too much is what you started us on it's right we're thinking we're lesser than we're looking at everyone else's greatest hits we think we stink and I want to read people of that thinking.

how to navigate change wrestle with failure and live an intentional life

His new book is called Loser Think, How Untrained Brains Are Ruining America.

I was just using your example of or your idea to hey take a photo of this page of the book when someone engages in loser think, show them the page that it's from and it will take emotion out of the equation.

People don't like to be shown that they're wrong but you have to admit that showing them a printed book that somebody thought was worth publishing gives it a little bit of under credibility.

So loser think isn't about being uninformed it's about unproductive thinking right?

If you have certainty about a complicated issue that should be a little little signal that maybe maybe you should back that up a little bit maybe you should have a little less certainty a little more humility and that's something I talk about as well.

His new book is called Loser Think, How Untrained Brains Are Ruining America.

So loser think the news great title by the way, I'm sure that's one of those where people think ah I do that I'm going to pick that up.

I was just using your example of or your idea to hey take a photo of this page of the book when someone engages in loser think, show them the page that it's from and it will take emotion out of the equation.

People don't like to be shown that they're wrong but you have to admit that showing them a printed book that somebody thought was worth publishing gives it a little bit of under credibility.

Yeah, so loser think isn't about being uninformed it's about unproductive thinking right?

So loser think the news great title by the way, I'm sure that's one of those where people think ah I do that I'm going to pick that up.

I was just using your example of or your idea to hey take a photo of this page of the book when someone engages in loser think, show them the page that it's from and it will take emotion out of the equation.

Yeah, well it's better than saying here's everything that's wrong with your thoughts and then they go well I don't like you so now I'm going to poke holes and that is just like you should read this page and find out what is objectively wrong with your line of reasoning.

So loser think isn't about being uninformed it's about unproductive thinking right?

I love this from the book because it explains so much of what's going on in public discourse yeah if you have no good argument just say well you're saying that because you're a racist or you're saying that because you're uneducated there's a million ways to do that instead of just saying here's all these reasons that you're actually wrong.

And if you want to know how I managed to book guests like Ben Horowitz, I've got a crazy network and I want to teach you how to do the same.

his new book is titled What You Do Is Who You Are How To Create Your Business Culture will link to that in the show notes as we always do

I did notice the reading both books you've got some street in you you know you quote a little rap here and there hip hop here and there.

I think that that might sound a little bit like corporate speak here but today we're going to explore what the Haitian slave revolt can teach us about running a business.

The new book uses history like the Haiti slave revolt and takes corporate culture ideas and notes out of history, which is a really interesting way to look at corporate culture.

People may like or not like the book but you have not read a business book like this.

I thought that this part of the book was worth the price of admission for the book period like if it was just that yeah I thought it was incredible.

I will say this like people may like or not like the book but you have not read a business book like this.

I thought that this part of the book was worth the price of admission for the book period like if it was just that yeah I thought it was incredible.

his new book is titled What You Do Is Who You Are How To Create Your Business Culture

Bob Eiger interesting guy he's really a company he's very very accomplished yeah accomplish you can be yeah I mean he's the chairman of Disney or the president of the no chairman CEO Disney and he has been he just wrote a book himself called right of a lifetime I'm now selling his book

he just wrote a book himself called Right of a Lifetime

he just wrote a book himself called right of a lifetime I'm now selling his book

Mubin Shaikh is... the co-author of*Undercover Jihadi: Inside the Toronto 18 -- Al Qaeda Inspired, Homegrown Terrorism in the West*.

Mubin Shaikh is... the co-author of*Undercover Jihadi: Inside the Toronto 18 -- Al Qaeda Inspired, Homegrown Terrorism in the West*.

the book is called The Push available where wherever fine books are sold

the book is called The Push available where wherever fine books are sold

the book is called The Push available where wherever fine books are sold

Hyperfocus was pretty interesting for me, Chris because it was a little shocking. First of all that we can work for an average of 40 seconds in front of our computer before getting distracted.

And I thought there's no way that's true. I'm going to time myself and I didn't really make it much further than that.

So it was a little bit depressing. I hate throwing that word around, but I thought for sure I'm super productive.

And so I went in deep into the research and that 42nd study was one of them that I encountered is conducted by a team of researchers at Microsoft, Mary Sherwin, Skis, Shams, Yikbal.

And so I thought, okay, I'm going to fly out to Microsoft's research campus just to see how they conduct this study.

Hyperfocus was pretty interesting for me, Chris because it was a little shocking. First of all that we can work for an average of 40 seconds in front of our computer before getting distracted.

And I thought there's no way that's true. I'm going to time myself and I didn't really make it much further than that.

So it was a little bit depressing. I hate throwing that word around, but I thought for sure I'm super productive.

The whole book is hyper focused and then it's like, but also sometimes you should probably not do this at all and you call this in the book scatter focus letting our mind wander.

Chris thank you so much for all of this this is very useful and practical which I like and hyper focus has a lot of it's a lot of practicals and not a lot of like kids these days which I feel a lot of productivity books or focus books are often like rants and there's not a whole lot of how to fix it and this book is different.

Hyperfocus was pretty interesting for me, Chris because it was a little shocking. First of all that we can work for an average of 40 seconds in front of our computer before getting distracted.

And I thought there's no way that's true. I'm going to time myself and I didn't really make it much further than that.

So it was a little bit depressing. I hate throwing that word around, but I thought for sure I'm super productive.

But then there are the other moments where our mind is off somewhere else and maybe the listener has experienced one or two of these as you've been listening just because this is the way our mind is wired.

The whole book is hyper focused and then it's like, but also sometimes you should probably not do this at all and you call this in the book scatter focus letting our mind wander.

In fact, 40% of everything we do every single day is pure autopilot.

autopilot mode is actually quite handy because we can initiate any habit and then we can follow through with that habit.

The original title for my book was going to be 'A Nightmare in Shining Armor'.

In 1963, adolescents are asked if they considered themselves important. 12% said yes. 30 years later, in 1993, that percentage had risen to 80.

The more individualistic the culture, the more narcissistic people tend to be.

If you're growing up in a home where again there is very little unconditional love and love or praise or whatever you want to call it, acceptance is based on your performance.

I always say give me the surgeon who has worked his butt off, her butt off to overcompensate by being the best of the best.

The original title for my book was going to be 'A Nightmare in Shining Armor'. I thought that was a little too dark.

In 1963, adolescents are asked if they considered themselves important. 12% said yes. 30 years later, in 1993, that percentage had risen to 80.

I always say give me the surgeon who has worked his butt off, her butt off to overcompensate by being the best of the best.

So I say this so often in my treatment room when my narcissistic clients are saying things like, 'So I'm supposed to feel bad that I'm doing so well?'

I'm not your assistant, so it's got to stop.

The original title for my book was going to be 'A Nightmare in Shining Armor'. I thought that was a little too dark.

In 1963, adolescents are asked if they considered themselves important. 12% said yes. 30 years later, in 1993, that percentage had risen to 80.

I'm not letting them off the hook by saying they're unaware. I'm saying what they're doing, the driver behind that is 'I am going to do whatever it takes to make myself look good'.

So give me the surgeon who has worked his butt off, her butt off, to overcompensate by being the best of the best. I just want them to be the best technician when I go under anesthesia and I'm being operated on.

They can be very charming and appear to be these amazing superheroes, oh my knight in shining armor.

He is the co-author of Mistrial: An Inside Look at How the Criminal Justice System Works...and Sometimes Doesn't.

He is the co-author of Mistrial: An Inside Look at How the Criminal Justice System Works...and Sometimes Doesn't.

The book is called ultra learning we'll link to that in the show notes of course

one of the main reasons that I wrote this book ultra learning was because I recognize that what is going on right now is that school is it's great you can get degrees like we were talking about earlier it can rubber stamp you from some professions but the costs are accelerating dramatically it's getting increasingly unaffordable

the difference between the people who have world class skills that are top performers and the people who are mediocre or are not able to do complex things is widening

what our assumptions are what our culture has baked in about what you need to do to succeed in life is based on this outdated notion that you just you know you work hard you get a job you get your seniority you get your paycheck and you will have a comfortable middle class life and that's what's disappearing

either you learn skills constantly you go into these sort of high skilled professions where you always have to be upgrading you always have to be adapting to change and learning new things or you fall out into this lower skilled end which is things like you know customer service representatives janitors clerks people who require social skills and they have to interact with people so it's not going to be automated and replaced by a machine but at the same time it's also not going to be a career that necessarily pays very well or gives you that much financial security for your future

I'm definitely not arguing that school is bad and that no one should ever go to school and that you should do this instead.

I think the problem is is a lot of people go into school unthinkingly so they're struggling in their career they this is kind of nebulous problem that they don't really know how to advance they don't know how to get promoted they don't know how to get the job they want so they say to themselves you know what I'm going to go back and do my masters or I'm going to go get an MBA and then a hundred thousand dollars later they find out that well actually doesn't get them that many better opportunities than they had before and they're kind of puzzled by that.

I think it's all about analyzing what actually drives progress in your career and sometimes that's going to be having that certificate.

I think there's sometimes a conflation between well you need to have a degree versus you need to be able to do the things that employers want to hire you for and sometimes a degree is the way to do that but I think this example illustrates it's not the only way of doing it.

I think a lot of people who are feeling maybe stuck in their career they go oh I need to go back and get my MBA or I need to go back and get another degree that's going to allow people to take me seriously. You take three, four years and your life is miserable during that time you get tens of thousands if not six figures in debt and then you're kind of no better off than you were before in many cases.

I'm definitely not arguing that school is bad and that no one should ever go to school and that you should do this instead but I think the problem is is a lot of people go into school unthinkingly.

I think it's all about analyzing what actually drives progress in your career and sometimes that's going to be having that certificate.

I think there's sometimes a conflation between well you need to have a degree versus you need to be able to do the things that employers want to hire you for and sometimes a degree is the way to do that but I think this example illustrates it's not the only way of doing it.

I recognize that what is going on right now is that school is it's great you can get degrees like we were talking about earlier it can rubber stamp you from some professions but the costs are accelerating dramatically it's getting increasingly unaffordable.

and at the same time the difference between the people who have world class skills that are top performers and the people who are mediocre or are not able to do complex things is widening.

what i write about in This Is Marketing is most marketers say i have a key show me the lock it fits hmm that's a really dumb way to get into the house yeah the smart way to say here's a lock why don't you go make a key that will open that that makes much more sense that is a service mindset both on empathy to say i'm not going to force you to change for me to serve you i'm going to go to who you are and where you are going and bring you something that you that you know you need

His latest is This Is Marketing: You Can't Be Seen Until You Learn to See.

His latest is This Is Marketing: You Can't Be Seen Until You Learn to See.

what i write about in This Is Marketing is most marketers say i have a key show me the lock it fits

was actually a psychoanalyst in the United States Leonard I want to say a lessons corn wrote a book called Wabi Sabi in which he conflated two words Wabi and Sabi and basically I'm not doing a literal translation one means depth and one means nature and one implies handmade it's the reality of use

was actually a psychoanalyst in the United States Leonard I want to say a lessons corn wrote a book called Wabi Sabi in which he conflated two words Wabi and Sabi and basically I'm not doing a literal translation one means depth and one means nature and one implies handmade it's the reality of use and so

Wabi Sabi correct me if I'm wrong is where the is a Japanese art form worth they sort of do they deliberately break the pot and then glue it together with gold or does it just there is a thing it starts with a K I can never yeah that's called okay

was actually a psychoanalyst in the United States Leonard I want to say a lessons corn wrote a book called Wabi Sabi in which he conflated two words Wabi and Sabi and basically I'm not doing a literal translation one means depth and one means nature and one implies handmade it's the reality of use

I would even say versus Double Double I cover this in the book the miracle morning for entrepreneurs

and is probably better applicable for anyone who's listening or watching today

women are really good at talking and sharing and communicating

and I don't know whether it's that that old story that we've heard that you know 10,000 years ago the women were out gathering and they would be communicating and talking and sharing with each other

and men had to be very quiet and stoic because we were trying to hunt an animal and if we were out talking and sharing we'd scare them all away

I would even say versus Double Double, I cover this in the book The Miracle Morning for Entrepreneurs.

and probably the curve and or the book Double Double at least or this chapter of the book into the hands of those people

women are really good at talking and sharing and communicating and I don't know whether it's that that old story that we've heard that you know 10,000 years ago the women were out gathering and they would be communicating and talking and sharing with each other and men had to be very quiet and stoic because we were trying to hunt an animal and if we were out talking and sharing we'd scare them all away so men were always inside and women were always communicating and sharing and that kept the animals away right it protected them I don't know if that's true but we're good but women tend to share like women talk to each other and they communicate about their fears and their worries and their insecurities and their frustrations and they kind of work through it all and then they come back into their relationships guys need to tap into that a little bit more and be okay with that

women tend to have a better social network than the men do and the men tend to be more workaholics than the women are women tend to disconnect and spend time and take care of themselves take care of you know family take care of friends and relationships they tend to be much better at compartmentalizing their business and and men tend to I think make it there everything which is to their detriment

I think if you're listening or watching this right now and you're going this is me then the key thing for you to do is get this show and probably the curve and or the book Double Double at least or this chapter of the book into the hands of those people

I think if you're listening or watching this right now and you're going this is me then the key thing for you to do is get this show and probably the curve and or the book Double Double at least or this chapter of the book into the hands of those people so they can go ah got it

women are really good at talking and sharing and communicating

guys need to tap into that a little bit more and be okay with that

I think it's starting more it feels to me like it's starting more or maybe I'm just opening up to it more but it feels like men are more than we were maybe back in the 50s and our parents generation are 60s we don't have to pretend we ever shit together you know it's okay to say I'm going to a therapist

and realize that when you ask for help it's kind of like this can you help me when the person comes in it feels amazing right and we're also if you don't ask someone else for hug or for help you're kind of robbing them of the chance to help you right

wrote a very popular book called Inside life behind bars in america the same martin's press brought out he wrote it from prison

my other mentor who had the most influence on me in my life probably as much as my father i could say his name is michael santo's who's served 26 years in prison he'd been in 22 years when i shook his hand got an undergraduate masters degree in prison wrote a very popular book called Inside life behind bars in america the same martin's press brought out he wrote it from prison

he'd been in 22 years when I shook his hand got an undergraduate masters degree in prison wrote a very popular book called Inside life behind bars in america the same martin's press brought out he wrote it from prison