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Bernie's endorsement of Biden comes at kind of an ironic moment here too. He's just finishing up a media tour promoting his book, It's Okay to be Angry, about capitalism.

The title of your book, 'It's Okay to be Angry About Capitalism' really did sit with me. It's a memorable book title, Senator. Of all the things voters are angry about, and there are many, abortion, the lack of progress on gun reform, even Clarence Thomas's questionable relationship with a billionaire. I know how you feel about billionaires. Why should capitalism be at the top of that list? Why was that important to be in the title of that book?

I wanted to ask you about President Biden's nomination of Julie Sue for the Labor Department Secretary.

You wrote in an op-ed back in October, Senator Sanders, last year that Democrats should focus and shouldn't focus only on abortion in the midterms. That's a mistake. It proved to be quite a winning issue. In fact, the level of backlash to Dobbs really even surprised me and I've been at this a while too. Did you underestimate the power of this issue and the power it had in motivating voters?

Bernie's endorsement of Biden comes at kind of an ironic moment here too. He's just finishing up a media tour promoting his book, It's Okay to Be Angry, about capitalism.

The title of your book, "It's Okay to be Angry About Capitalism" really did sit with me. It's a memorable book title, Senator.

Why should capitalism be at the top of that list?

For more on that, I really recommend Tim Carney's book The Big Ripoff.

The lobby over and over again for more regulation because it ultimately works out better for them.

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Ryan Cooper is the prospects managing editor and also author of How Are You Going to Pay for That? Smart Answers To The Dumbest Question in Politics.

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Stefania has been covering WikiLeaks and Assange probably longer and with as much depth as maybe any reporter on the planet.

the book is called Secret Power: WikiLeaks and its Enemies

congratulations on the publication

Stefania Marisi investigative journalist the book is called, if we could put G2 back up, the book is called Secret Power, WikiLeaks and its enemies, congratulations on the publication.

I can't wait to read that book.

Stefania has been covering WikiLeaks and Assange probably longer and with as much depth as maybe any reporter on the planet.

the book is called Secret Power: WikiLeaks and its Enemies

the book is called Secret Power, WikiLeaks and its enemies

is also the author of a great book Dream Hoarders we were just talking about that phenomenal book I highly recommend

My last book, Dream Hoarders, partly about the experience of being in the American upper middle class.

We were just talking about that, phenomenal, phenomenal book, I highly recommend.

is also the author of a great book Dream Hoarders we were just talking about that phenomenal book I highly recommend we'll have links down in the description for you guys to go ahead and buy it

For one of my books, oh yeah, the Gaza book, he wrote, 'Norman Finkelstein, probably the most serious scholar on the conflict in the Middle East, has written an excellent book.'

If you allow me. I have it. Okay. No, actually it's from 1997. So if I can ask you in my book Gaza, an inquest into its moral, turn to the 19th century.

In the Gaza book? Yes, it's table four.

Okay. Table four, how Israel fought Operation Protective Edge, before I ask you to read it, that these are soldiers who fought in Operation Protective Edge before October 7th, we're talking about 2014.

Just start from it's around 8 lines down the author holds The author holds out fate hope that it will find an audience among his contemporaries.

Yeah look, I don't like to make money off of the dead so on the Gaza book that's the fruit of I started researching Gaza about just focusing on Gaza about 2008 so it's the fruit of about 15 years just on Gaza.

It's Gaza, an Inquest into its Martyrdom, to dive into all of these topics.

But if you want background, mine is really the only book out there. It's Gaza and Inquest into its Martyrdom.

And really what it is, is that there was an interesting excerpt from 2021, where we had that Gaza operation in Franklin Ford's book.

And what he describes is how at a certain point, Biden called BB and he was like, all right, man, it's enough. And the operation actually ended the next day.

he's a fairly well-known social psychologist whose works includes The Coddling of the American Mind and also the righteous mind why good people are divided by politics and religion and his course you know quite honestly was super cool very interesting discussions but he was also extremely brief lasting you know just a few sessions over the course of two weekends which does kind of show the priorities of the curriculum right it like i said i found the discussions to be really interesting but unfortunately the course design itself felt more like i think compliance maybe even call it theater more than anything else

he's a fairly well-known social psychologist whose works includes The Coddling of the American Mind and also the righteous mind why good people are divided by politics and religion

I think it's called Homo Deus. And he wrote a book. Yeah. It was a little bit about AI. I encourage people to go read it. It's very interesting. It raises some of these questions.

I think it's called Homo Deus. And he wrote a book. Yeah. It was a little bit about AI. I encourage people to go read it. It's very interesting. It raises some of these questions.

Michael Lewis author of the great short or the big short um it was great and a ton of a ton of incredible books he started out with lyre's poker he was a trader back in the 1980s and then ends up writing about layman which then ends up fueling the uh the financial crisis in 2007 2008 with the very mortgage backed securities that he wrote about in lyre's poker which is an incredible book

As a fan of Moneyball, as a fan of The Big Short, Liar's Poker. I thought these were great, great books.

Michael Lewis author of the great short or the big short um it was great and a ton of a ton of incredible books he started out with lyre's poker he was a trader back in the 1980s and then ends up writing about layman which then ends up fueling the uh the financial crisis in 2007 2008 with the very mortgage backed securities that he wrote about in lyre's poker which is an incredible book

no it is a great book we've read it he's a great science writer he's somebody who clearly showed me that psychedelic drugs in particular are not casual and are literally the opposite in many cases which is that the casual use of them like yeah festival culture and all that stuff definitely exists but whenever you're talking about it in a treatment facility on a wide scale it's absolutely something that in a controlled setting uh and which he emphasizes routinely in his book so please go and read michael pollin's book on this How to Change Your Mind i highly recommend it

no it is a great book we've read it he's a great science writer he's somebody who clearly showed me that psychedelic drugs in particular are not casual and are literally the opposite in many cases which is that the casual use of them like yeah festival culture and all that stuff definitely exists but whenever you're talking about it in a treatment facility on a wide scale it's absolutely something that in a controlled setting uh and which he emphasizes routinely in his book so please go and read michael pollin's book on this How to Change Your Mind i highly recommend it

that's exactly what he says in the book set in setting matter

no it is a great book we've read it he's a great science writer he's somebody who clearly showed me that psychedelic drugs in particular are not casual and are literally the opposite in many cases which is that the casual use of them like yeah festival culture and all that stuff definitely exists but whenever you're talking about it in a treatment facility on a wide scale it's absolutely something that in a controlled setting uh and which he emphasizes routinely in his book so please go and read michael pollin's book on this How to Change Your Mind i highly recommend it

She is the author of Bad News: How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy and she joins us now.

Yeah, congrats on the book.

Excellent book guys. I really highly recommend that you check it out because it does chart the the roots of a lot of the dysfunction that we cover on a daily basis. Really nice job.

She is the author of 'Bad News: How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy' and she joins us now.

Yeah, congrats on the book.

Thank you so much for having me. You don't understand what an honor it is for me to be here at the Mecca of bipartisan disagreement with you guys.

Essentially what I argue is that the moral panic around race that we're seeing that emerged from the media over the last ten and especially five, two years, what last year, is really a way of perpetuating inequality.

Excellent book guys. I really highly recommend that you check it out because it does chart the the roots of a lot of the dysfunction that we cover on a daily basis. Really nice job.

She is the author of Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy and she joins us now.

Yeah, so my book is essentially a sort of populist history of American journalism that sadly is also the story of how the media abandoned the working class.

Essentially what I argue is that the moral panic around race that we're seeing that emerged from the media over the last ten and especially five, two years, what last year is really a way of perpetuating inequality.

They don't actually want to deal with the structural inequities that leads to not only mass-class gulls but also you know disproportionate number of black and brown people being part of that lower class of society that can never ever escape.

Excellent book guys. I really highly recommend that you check it out because it does chart the the roots of a lot of the dysfunction that we cover on a daily basis really nice job.

People basically misconstrued his book to be like, look at these idiot whites who support Republicans.

I mean the entire thesis bet was bastardized by a lot of elite liberals, mostly the Clintons was like, look at these idiot white folks who vote for people who raise their taxes in exchange for rich people.

Now you could believe that if you want, but let me tell you something. If you're going up around a lot of very conservative white folks, like try telling, try saying that to their face. Like what do you think exactly is going to happen?

People basically misconstrued his book to be like, look at these idiot whites who support Republicans. You're talking about what's the matter with Kansas?

The entire thesis bet was bastardized by a lot of elite liberals, mostly the Clintons, was like, look at these idiot white folks who vote for people who raise their taxes in exchange for rich people.

Where was Hillary Clinton when What's the Matter with Kansas came out?

The movie we know is based on her other book and podcast Bagman about a 1970s political bribery scandal is going to be directed by Ben Stiller she is going to serve as executive producer so that's the movie project

The movie we know is based on her other book and podcast Bagman about a 1970s political bribery scandal is going to be directed by Ben Stiller she is going to serve as executive producer

The movie we know is based on her other book and podcast Bagman about a 1970s political bribery scandal is going to be directed by Ben Stiller she is going to serve as executive producer

and then finally i just read the first volume jfk biography by frederick longivall which spends a lot of time on the pre-war diplomacy of europe

which spends a lot of time on the pre-war diplomacy of europe

which spends a lot of time on the pre-war diplomacy of Europe

He wrote another book about Nation of Victims, kind of outlining his philosophy.

We would celebrate Tolstoy and we would celebrate Solzhenitsyn and we would celebrate, you know, Crime and Punishment, we would celebrate the Russian symphony or ballet.

We would celebrate Tolstoy and we would celebrate Solzhenitsyn and we would celebrate, you know, Crime and Punishment, we would celebrate the Russian symphony or ballet.

Basically we've been living for the last half century in a world of hyper-globalization, nobles barred, financialization, big companies can put jobs, put money wherever they want.

But the problem is while that created a lot of wealth at a global level it also created tremendous in country inequality and we've been living with the consequences of that.

The hollowed out parts of the Rust Belt and the South that have become red states or swing states, the deaths of despair, the sense that American competitiveness has been eroded because we've outsourced our entire supply chain all these things are now coming to the fore particularly in the wake of the pandemic and the war in Ukraine.

The world is not flat right that's one of my big feces the world is bumpy it's never been flat

You cannot have an economy that's based simply on asset prices going up and the rich getting richer it just as i think you all would agree we're really at a social breaking point here with this

She has a new book about the end of globalism.

Basically your idea in Homecoming is that the age of unfettered globalization is ending that we're headed in a different direction and you try to sketch out a little bit of you know the science that's already happening and also what this future might look like so just first of all did I capture that accurately and second of all lay out lay on a little bit of what you see happening here.

We've been living for the last half century in a world of hyper globalization no holds barred financialization you know big companies can put jobs put money wherever they want um that is the neoliberal paradigm and that's you know that's a mouthful but neoliberalism is really the the political philosophy that's been adopted by both parties in fact in the last half century both by the you know Reagan Thatcher sort of republicans uh but also the clintonian democrats and the idea is that trickle down theory works markets are efficient and just let people go where they will let money and goods go where they will and it's all going to land where it's most productive and best for it to do so but the problem is while that created a lot of wealth at a global level it also created tremendous in-country inequality and we've been living with the consequences of that you know the hollowed out parts of the rust belt and the south that have become red states or swing states the deaths of despair you know the sense that um American competitiveness has been eroded because we've outsourced our entire supply chain all these things are now coming to the fore particularly in the wake of the pandemic and the war in Ukraine.

we're joined by a really great guest I'm speaking with James Pogue he is the author of a new piece of entity fair it's called inside The New Right he's a contributing editor at harpers and someone who covers this space I think this is one of the best written pieces on this really important dynamic especially post jd vance wins

This piece came out in Vanity Fair right so this isn't coming out in Jacobin it's not coming out in like something like a little it's like the most very prestigious but like a very like not traditional audience for this type of discourse but what was the react so what was just the reaction that you got from let's say like your center left 38 year old like what was their reaction to these ideas

he is the author of a new piece of entity fair it's called inside The New Right he's a contributing editor at harpers and someone who covers this space I think this is one of the best written pieces on this really important dynamic especially post jd vance wins

I try to explain it to people who've literally never heard anything about this stuff as kind of two twin tendencies um and so one would be this kind of broad based idea on the right you're going to take over the republican party and refashion it towards something like what we see in France with marine le pen a sort of like nationalist anti-globalist vision of a right that is conservative anti-globalization and kind of proudly americanist in a way that the republican party hasn't been

I think the thing that you really capture in your piece I love you to expand on this is it's americanist but it's focused on decline in a way that the reaganite version just wasn't but it's very definition

I think that that's not a great way of doing politics to be frank to go a little bit beyond that The New Right with its kind of emphasis on recent realizing executive power has a real vision of how to do a lot of this stuff they have and I'm not saying that it's a plausible vision but they have an articulation of like hey we're going to recent utilize power in the executive branch and we are going to do big stuff really quick and that was something that Bernie offered to some degree he was saying we're going to build a huge broad base coalition that will allow us to move really quick and do big stuff that got broken

I think that's going to lead to an interesting and volatile space for right wing politics going forward

hey breaking points we're joined by a really great guest I'm speaking with James Pogue he is the author of a new piece of entity fair it's called inside The New Right he's a contributing editor at harpers and someone who covers this space I think this is one of the best written pieces on this really important dynamic especially post jd vance wins so let's just ask the obvious question this new right discourse has existed for a couple years like the podcast saga and I do call the realignment started covering this space like in 2019 why this year 2022 late april like why was this the moment for you to write this piece.

Consider her latest book for which she got a fat advance for, 'Level Up: Rise above the hidden forces holding your business back'.

Consider her latest book for which she got a fat advance for Level Up, rise above the hidden forces holding your business back.

Consider her latest book for which she got a fat advance for Level Up, rise above the hidden forces holding your business back.

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