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He's also the author of Think Like a Rocket Scientist. Simple strategies you can use to make giant leaps in work and in life.

right just gave the book to people who were generally interested in in business books but who knew nothing we had no background in what I was talking about and they are amateurs are really good at asking those quote-unquote dumb questions but they're not dumb at all actually because they go to some like fundamental aspect of the problem like why can't you make rockets reusable amateurs will ask those questions even though experts may not because they're too ingrained in what's worked in the past

there's a quote from in my book from an innovative CEO he asks what if you had not already hired this person what if you had not already installed this equipment what if you hadn't implemented this process or bought this business or pursued the strategy would you be doing the same thing that you are doing today

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Ozan thank you so much man really enlightening my pleasure Jordan thank you so much big thank you to Ozan Verol his book is called Think Like a Rocket Scientist simple strategies you can use to make giant leaps in work and in life

He's also the author of Think Like a Rocket Scientist. Simple strategies you can use to make giant leaps in work and in life.

right just gave the book to people who were generally interested in in business books but who knew nothing we had no background in what I was talking about and they are amateurs are really good at asking those quote-unquote dumb questions but they're not dumb at all actually because they go to some like fundamental aspect of the problem like why can't you make rockets reusable amateurs will ask those questions even though experts may not because they're too ingrained in what's worked in the past

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Ozan thank you so much man really enlightening my pleasure Jordan thank you so much big thank you to Ozan Verol his book is called Think Like a Rocket Scientist simple strategies you can use to make giant leaps in work and in life

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Well, I mean, to be more honest about it, I could have done this as a podcast. I was approached to do a book and when we sat down and said, you know, they were like, what do you want to talk about?

And you know, it's almost like looking at one of those inkblot tests that the psychologist shows you. You find out a lot about yourself because I don't know about you, but I don't go back and listen to the old shows.

But when I had to lay them out on the living room floor and look at them all as sort of a group, I go, whoa, I'm inordinately interested in the fall of civilizations and these kind of things.

So I think it was a logical thing to use as a book subject because I'd explored it in depth and I'm obviously pretty interested in it.

But it's a book of questions and they're the most important questions maybe you could as a group ask.

I could have done this as a podcast. I was approached to do a book and when we sat down and said, you know, they were like, what do you want to talk about?

So I think it was a logical thing to use as a book subject because I'd explored it in depth and I'm obviously pretty interested in it.

It's simply because who knows, right? But it's a book of questions and they're the most important questions maybe you could as a group ask.

It dives right into some parenting topics and some crazy abusive previous societies.

I brought those subjects to the fore of the book, though, because I was trying to establish how we might respond to some of the challenges that we're going to talk about later in the book.

And there's that old samurai named Musashi. Right? And he wrote to Musashi that says, once you see things broadly, you can see it in all things. Once you say the way, I think it's once you see the way broadly, you can see it in all things. And I think he's talking about that process of, once you know this mindset process of learning a skill or mastering something, you can apply it to like lots of things in your life.

And there's that old samurai named Musashi. Right? And he wrote to Musashi that says, once you see things broadly, you can see it in all things. Once you say the way, I think it's once you see the way broadly, you can see it in all things. And I think he's talking about that process of, once you know this mindset process of learning a skill or mastering something, you can apply it to like lots of things in your life.

I don't think like The Art of Seduction is banned because nobody in prisons could be I hope is reading well you never know yeah I hope not

I don't think like The Art of Seduction is banned because nobody in prisons could be I hope is reading well you never know yeah I hope not but I believe the war book and the power book are banned right yeah.

men cheat and women like psychos that's what I took from the book am I missing anything?

it starts off with sexual selection and evolution being kind of like an arms race right there's these back and forth changes in species or in sexes to defend against reproductive it seems weird to say this but to defend slash get around the defenses can you give us an example you use the spider in the book?

I tell a story in the book where I was giving you talk in LA and my host picked me up in his Lamborghini and the second he pulled up to the curb all the baggage handlers all came out wanted to take selfies of themselves with the Lamborghini I don't know you know if they went I posted those on Facebook or on their internet dating accounts but you get that yeah that makes sense I'm it's hard to say there's sort of this inexplicable tendency for a lot of men to just be like I saw this car here's me near this car that I saw but you're right it's the subtext is I have access to this car in some way right otherwise what's the point that you just saw something that I can find on Google it doesn't really make a lot of kind of logical sense if you're not assuming there's a there's a nexus there that they want other people to assume even if they're not even thinking about it consciously

I remember when I wrote my first book the evolution of desire strategies of human mating I had this whole section on on the importance of food and meat and feeding the woman and so forth and I gave it to one of my graduate students who circled that and he said the David meat is neat but liquor is quicker

it was a traumatizing to write so i devote two chapters to that one on sexual coercion where i look at the male psychology that drives it and then one on women's defenses against sexual coercion which i think is really the most important chapter of the book

men cheat and women like psychos that's what I took from the book am I missing anything?

it starts off with sexual selection and evolution being kind of like an arms race right there's these back and forth changes in species or in sexes to defend against reproductive it seems weird to say this but to defend slash get around the defenses can you give us an example you use the spider in the book?

it's like you have steering wheel under two pairs of hands on the steering wheel one pulling in one direction the other pulling in the other direction these co-evolutionary arms races occur in many domains that I talk about in the new book on the mating markets you have deception on the mating market sexual conflict within mating relationships once they form sexual conflict over whether a breakup will occur sexual conflict in the aftermath of a breakup and then I also talk about as a broad brush overview talk about a sexual harassment in the workplace stalking an intimate partner violence and sexual assault and women's defenses against sexual assault

I devote two chapters to that one on sexual coercion where i look at the male psychology that drives it and then one on women's defenses against sexual coercion which i think is really the most important chapter of the book

it's the causes anxiety depression post-traumatic stress self isolation sexual assault is just one of the if not the most one of the most horrific things that you can do to another individual to a woman but therefore it's especially important given its prevalence

The book title is 'Love Your Enemies' got ten other ones too.

He's the author of 'Love Your Enemies: How Decent People Can Save America from the Culture of Contempt.'

I love the idea that it's better to be kind than to be right, when we're talking with people on the other side of the aisle or on the other side of the Thanksgiving dinner table.

I wrote it because I want to lash myself to the mast, when you write a book and it's the bestseller, you know it's uh, you can't ever do the thing that you're railing against ever again.

I'm gonna dedicate myself to loving others especially those with whom I disagree and standing up for the people with whom I disagree for the rest of my life, those are my moral standards.

It's an absolute compliment. I've really had a great time here today. What I love about this conversation is that today we went completely off the rails and ended up with something better than I ever could have prepared and that's because Arthur Brooks is a real thinker. And he cares about the ideas that he presents. So obviously we geeked out over here. I think you'll dig this one especially if you care about how and why discourse in politics and America have changed and why and how media figures and political pundits are actually using some pretty morally bankrupt tricks to get us to divide further apart something he calls the outrage industrial complex.

I'm going to make you more persuasive, I'm going to make you happier and I'm going to start a social movement in your heart in a tiny little way to bring our country together and that's answering hatred with love as much as you possibly can.

I'm going to lash myself to the mast when you write a book and it's a best seller you know it's uh you can't ever do the thing that you're railing against ever again.

The reason I wrote Love Your Enemies is because I always haven't I always haven't lived up to that in the past what I'm committing myself is trying to live up to it in the future yeah.

Brooks your ideas are immoral but you can't say Brooks because of your ideas you are immoral that's a huge a cognitive leap and it's been foisted upon us by the outraged industrial complex has made us into lesser people by basically saying you are the sum of your views that's insane.

you mentioned this in the book the new book Winning and in the old book relentless the original book it's crucial for a champion or for any high performer to know who to trust and when to trust them because highly successful people rarely get to hear the truth

and I talk about this in the book Winning where everyone knows when you go to school and you go through an education process everyone tells you what to think

and that's how these individuals describe Winning because they're not thinking about the celebration at the end which is small and short they're thinking about the race that they had to go through in order to get to Winning

One of the chapters in the book is you know Winning makes you different and different scares people so success makes you different people are scared by different what they don't understand their automatically turn off by

you don't have to love the work you just have to want the end result

You can't even access the upper limits of the physical without putting the mental blocks in place first.

it's crucial for a champion or for any high performer to know who to trust and when to trust them because highly successful people rarely get to hear the truth

Winning makes you different and different scares people so success makes you different people are scared by different what they don't understand their automatically turn off by

Winning is the ultimate gamble on yourself that was having confidence in myself to know that I'm gonna choose a different path and I'm going to get that end result because that was my ticket to the freedom of the life I wanted to live not with somebody else wanted to live you know you take the chance on yourself and you never doubt what the outcome is going to be

Winning isn't going to meet you halfway it's going to meet you at the end and it's going to watch you go through that unforgiving race to see what's going to come out on that other end

There's a book called Ending Medical Reversal by a Vene Prasad, Adam Sifu which is well worth reading a reference in the book about medical treatments that have just gone completely opposite because the evidence was never really there in the first place and yet that was all doctors had to use.

There's a book called Ending Medical Reversal by a Vene Prasad, Adam Sifu which is well worth reading a reference in the book about medical treatments that have just gone completely opposite because the evidence was never really there in the first place and yet that was all doctors had to use.

We've got confirmation bias, we've got different cognitive biases, and we have that deeply rooted human need for certainty that you write about in The Believing Brain, where the brain is that belief engine and we look for things like patterns and try to find meaning in them.

...the brain looks for patterns and then infuses those patterns with meaning and you write that our brains connect the dots of our world into meaningful patterns that explain why things happen and these patterns become beliefs.

In the book, the crux of which is that we believe first and then seek confirmation for our beliefs later.

...we believe first and then seek confirmation for our beliefs later...

...you talk about how smart people stick to beliefs even more because they're better at rationalizing those same beliefs...

We've got confirmation bias, we've got different cognitive biases, and we have that deeply rooted human need for certainty that you write about in The Believing Brain, where the brain is that belief engine and we look for things like patterns and try to find meaning in them.

In the book, the crux of which is that we believe first and then seek confirmation for our beliefs later.

In The Believing Brain, you talk about how smart people stick to beliefs even more because they're better at rationalizing those same beliefs.

And you write that our brains connect the dots of our world into meaningful patterns that explain why things happen and these patterns become beliefs.

As you wrote in the book, even pigeons are superstitious, as per some of the experiments that you run, which I think is kind of amazing.

he recommended a couple of books one which is kalfman's book Transcend we will link to that in the show notes

In your book, The Influential Mind, What the Brain Reveals About Our Power To Change Others, there's so many practical things in here that I think are very useful and I was pleasantly surprised by that because often you read a book from a scientist or somebody in academia and you end up with a lot of information that you can't use at all anywhere other than maybe elsewhere in academia or if you're taking copious notes to regurgitate for an exam.

One of the principles in the book that really struck me, that you'd written most of the ways in which we think we change our minds is wrong.

So the book title is The Influential Mind, what the brain reveals about our power to change others, of course that'll be linked up in the show notes.

Lots of stuff that we could have gone on to talk about in The Influential Mind, what the brain reveals about our power to change others, there are a lot of really useful practicals in here, there were a lot of interesting studies as well.

Also in The Influential Mind, you've written that when... when trying to persuade it's better to seed a new belief than to contradict an old belief.

In your book, The Influential Mind, What the Brain Reveals About Our Power To Change Others, there's so many practical things in here that I think are very useful and I was pleasantly surprised by that because often you read a book from a scientist or somebody in academia and you end up with a lot of information that you can't use at all anywhere other than maybe elsewhere in academia or if you're taking copious notes to regurgitate for an exam.

One of the principles in the book that really struck me, that you'd written most of the ways in which we think we change our minds is wrong.

So I really appreciated that about the book because I have a ton of places where I think we can deliver practical exercises.

Also in The Influential Mind you discuss a lot of principles such as using emotions and speeches for example to synchronize the brains of people listening and I'm oversimplifying that obviously synchronizing brains is kind of a sort of sounds like zombies but you gave the moon speech from President Kennedy as an example.

In The Influential Mind, you've written that when and I'm paraphrasing here but when trying to persuade it's better to seed a new belief than to contradict an old belief.

This is a psychopath who studies psychopaths but the story of how he discovered he was a psychopath will trip you up. You're never going to believe it.

I'm a neuroscientist. I do a lot of neuro anatomy and since about 1989, I've studied the pet scans, you know, brain imaging scans of killers, serial killers, really bad murders.

And they handed me the pile of my family scans and they were covered up so I couldn't see the names. And I've seen over a thousand of these so I could quickly go through to see if there's any gross abnormalities in the pet scans.

And then I got to the last scan and it looked at it, I said, okay guys, I called in the technicians. I said this is very funny because you know in the lab like any place you kid around with each other, right? And I said, okay, you switched him. You took one of the worst psychopaths from this pile of murders and he has switched it into my family. Ha ha.

They said no, they checked the computer, the machine, everything. They said is somebody in your family.

This is a psychopath who studies psychopaths but the story of how he discovered he was a psychopath will trip you up. You're never going to believe it.

I'm a neuroscientist...I've studied the pet scans...brain imaging scans of killers, serial killers, really bad murders.

I'm a psychopath, due to a brain scan.

And it's true. Okay, so I agree with that and the second thing about the nature of evil...they don't at a fundamental level think what they're doing is particularly wrong.

The book title is The Psychopath Inside, a neuroscientist journey into the dark side of the brain.

Don't be misled by the title. This is a deep, thick, dense read and today, we'll explore the idea that we really care what others think about us, no surprise there.

The book itself entitled Selfie, it's not as sort of simple as I thought it was going to be, I thought okay he's going to talk about how we're all obsessed with ourselves and we're all narcissists dot dot dot the end but it gets quite a bit deeper than that and as it turns out not every society is as obsessed with itself as we are.

The book title is Selfie how we became so self-obsessed and what it's doing to us.

Don't be misled by the title. This is a deep, thick, dense read and today, we'll explore the idea that we really care what others think about us, no surprise there.

The book itself entitled Selfie, it's not as sort of simple as I thought it was going to be, I thought okay he's going to talk about how we're all obsessed with ourselves and we're all narcissists dot dot dot the end but it gets quite a bit deeper than that and as it turns out not every society is as obsessed with itself as we are.

The book title is Selfie: How We Became So Self-Obsessed and What It's Doing to Us.

Leah Remini... co-author of Troublemaker: Surviving Hollywood and Scientology.

Peter has also written several books including bold and Abundance both recommended reading if you are into future orology in the prediction of the future in terms of technology AI humanity.

and this is all chronicled in my first book so I called Abundance the futures bad new thing going to give a Ted talk in 2011 2012 when the book was launched

Peter has also written several books including bold and Abundance both recommended reading if you are into future orology in the prediction of the future in terms of technology AI humanity.

And I was like I read a different book and you know and this is all chronicled in my first book so I called Abundance the futures bad new thing going to give a Ted talk in 2011 2012 when the book was launched.

Corbin highly recommends a book called Punishment Without Trial by Carissa Bernhessick.

Corbin highly recommends a book called Punishment Without Trial by Carissa Bernhessick we'll link it in the show notes everything the system did to you it's apparently well documented across thousands of cases in this book so give it a read it could help you better understand the system and what happened to you and again we'll link to that in the show notes

It's why the scenarios in Imaginable are so extreme, right?

the book is a logical next stop

the book itself is loaded with practical exercises

it's also extremely long so that's the other clue that you put a lot of work into.

it is like twice as long as a regular book but since it's an interesting read it goes by three times as fast

it's why the scenarios and Imaginable are so extreme right you know we're talking about an emergency sperm drive right since we were talking about that particular topic

you can read my future scenarios you can play my public simulations and prepare yourself

what I try to teach people to do an Imaginable is to figure out how do you get your ear to the ground how do you build your network of information so that you are somebody who is hearing these signals of change early enough that you can think about them and adapt

and it's also extremely long so that's the other clue that you put a lot of work into.

it's loaded with practical exercises it covers the benefits of future thinking how to do it Jane is fond of saying four site is a human right if we forecast challenges we can start solving problems today rather than waiting to be blindsided by a catastrophe

That was sort of the intro sound bite that I got for the book and I was like, I'm sold because I want to know how to make myself more caveman, to make myself more resilient.

if you're a regular listener of this show believe it or not you've already been hearing about it you just haven't had the vocabulary to describe it so synthetic biology is a relatively new interdisciplinary field of science it combines design computer science biology engineering and the goal is to redesign or design organisms on a molecular level to have new purposes

of all the things we wrote about in this book there's a lot of I think controversial concepts and ideas the future of agriculture was not the part of the book that I thought was going to set off a firestorm of public debate and have a lot of like calls to cancel me online and yet that's kind of what happens

I read in your book about the leather that's made from spider silk it's obviously not really leather but it's just like yeah some sort of analogous compound that's maybe really hard to tell what it is and it's like hey this didn't require torturing an animal and yeah all the other things that go with raising an animal in the first place just for the skin

the futures here it's not just not evenly distributed you know what I would say is the future is here it just didn't show up the way that we all expected and therefore we miss it we miss the developments in real time they don't meet the expectations that we had they don't have the shape or the form factor that we were expecting so we miss things until they reach a level of maturity

So first of all, that's not entirely my idea. So George Church who's a premonent geneticist, scientist at Harvard really pushes his thinking to the very edge of plausibility in a way that I think is incredibly profound and beneficial.

And one of those edge cases is we've got human DNA but is this the best we can do? There are derivatives at some point we forked. Is there something about those who were living near us around us?

Is there some other part of our evolution that we might be able to tap into? And if so, would that make us more resilient?

The bottom line is we are facing existential crises on this planet right and it has to do with climate change and food security and all kinds of things.

And of all the things we wrote about in this book, there's a lot of I think controversial concepts and ideas, the future of agriculture was not the part of the book that I thought was going to set off a firestorm of public debate and have a lot of like calls to cancel me online and yet that's kind of what happens.

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