Red Notice A True Story of High Finance, Murder, and One Man's Fight for Justice

Then he cites Bill Browder who wrote a book called Red Notice who's this like billionaire who was basically driven out of Russia because he was trying to fight for his friend Sergei Medvedev who was killed there's a great podcast of the world on this check it out and says that Browder's associates funneled money to Clinton.

We've interviewed so many cool people from Samantha Bee. We've interviewed Alec Baldwin. We just interviewed Bill Browder, who wrote Red Notice about Putin.

My first book, which is called Red Notice...

The irony that really struck me in the beginning of Red Notice was that your grandfather was the head of the American Communist Party and so you're this amazing capitalist has made lots of successful investments billions of dollars here and your grandfather was kind of not trying to do that he was at least one of the least capitalistic people I guess of his day and had that reputation to match.

I love the idea of the substance instead of the form and I want to come back to that theme as well throughout the rest of our talk here because when I'm reading the, when I'm reading Red Notice these voucher auctions where you have to buy things this isn't show up. Have a meeting, sign some documents. There's a series of escrow bank wires. This is duffle bag full of millions of dollars in vouchers for cash that are stacked.

There's a story in Red Notice that made me think that even that is a huge challenge over in Eastern Europe and in Russia because there's this story where you see this man having a seizure in the road and nobody wants to stop and your driver even he didn't want to stop.

The stories in Red Notice are in, it just gets worse I mean not worse but more and more unbelievably incredible I mean these oligarchs Putin that says Game of Thrones I mean these guys are getting thrown in jail people are pilfering they're getting persecuted politically and you're not by any stretch immune to this.

And Red Notice the book has so many people who are intimidated into silence how are you able to go up against Putin a murderer one of the most powerful men in the world without just giving into the intimidation yourself?

The irony that really struck me in the beginning of red notice was that your grandfather was the head of the American Communist Party and so you're this amazing capitalist has made lots of successful investments billions of dollars here and your grandfather was kind of not trying to do that he was at least one of the least capitalistic people I guess of his day and had that reputation to match.

I love the idea of the substance instead of the form and I want to come back to that theme as well throughout the rest of our talk here because when I'm reading the, when I'm reading red notice these voucher auctions where you have to buy things this isn't show up. Have a meeting, sign some documents. There's a series of escrow bank wires. This is duffle bag full of millions of dollars in vouchers for cash that are stacked.

There's a story in red notice that made me think that even that is a huge challenge over in Eastern Europe and in Russia because there's this story where you see this man having a seizure in the road and nobody wants to stop and your driver even he didn't want to stop.

In these oligarchs by the way for people who don't know the term oligarch it's essentially some super wealthy robber baron type usually what we're talking about here are Russian oligarchs these are the guys that sort of had a similar game maybe as you of course a lot of them would say oh yeah okay I'm just gonna buy one of the national oil companies because I'm friends with people in the government and I can secure financing from wherever China or some other thing.

And red notice the book has so many people who are intimidated into silence how are you able to go up against Putin a murderer one of the most powerful men in the world without just giving into the intimidation yourself?

The irony that really struck me in the beginning of red notice was that your grandfather was the head of the American Communist Party and so you're this amazing capitalist has made lots of successful investments billions of dollars here and your grandfather was kind of not trying to do that he was at least one of the least capitalistic people I guess of his day and had that reputation to match.

I love the idea of the substance instead of the form and I want to come back to that theme as well throughout the rest of our talk here because when I'm reading the, when I'm reading red notice these voucher auctions where you have to buy things this isn't show up. Have a meeting, sign some documents. There's a series of escrow bank wires. This is duffle bag full of millions of dollars in vouchers for cash that are stacked.

But there's a story in red notice that made me think that even that is a huge challenge over in Eastern Europe and in Russia because there's this story where you see this man having a seizure in the road and nobody wants to stop and your driver even he didn't want to stop.

the details we just glossed over everything in the interest of course in time but in red notice there's just so much that goes into the him resisting and having the courage to resist making a false confession in the face of this horrific pain and it's really it truly is unbelievable

and my mind is so blown in the book we left out half more of the things that are happening in the book or they talk about everything that's happening to him. I mean, just the KGB or the FSB's rating is offices and the people who are prosecuting him are also the police in charge of this but they're also the investors that are involved in the tax fraud.

My first book, which is called Red Notice...

but it's on my mind because I was thumbing through it because this gentleman, this author, will be my special guest in a Zoom, Bill Browder. His book Red Notice is the most page-turning thing you'll read probably in a long time.

If you haven't read it, I would get that. I'm also going to ask him about the new book he's writing, Freezing Order, which promises to be just as good.

His book Red Notice is the most page-turning thing you'll read probably in a long time. If you haven't read it, I would get that.

I was actually um on vacation I was beginning my next book

I was actually um on vacation I was beginning my next book