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I've written two books about this, The Voting Wars and Election Meltdown, both of which chronicle the steep rise in election litigation in this country ever since the disputed presidential election of 2000 that culminated in the Supreme Court's decision in Bush v. Gore.

It's called, Look for Me There, Grieving My Father, Finding Myself.

Congratulations on the book, Look for Me There, Grieving My Father, Finding Myself.

It took quite a long time to write it.

I left NBC in 2016, and I started traveling because I needed a reset.

I was not fulfilled. I didn't necessarily know who I was independent of my parents, independent of the Washington bubble that I grew up in.

And actually, I didn't know this, but when Michelle Obama wrote Becoming, she says that like on her first date, Barack Obama used that line.

Mike's most recent one-man show, The New One, is really about willingness to change. In this case, going from staunch reluctance about having kids to fully embracing parenthood.

It's an honest and heartwarming depiction that doesn't hesitate to dig into questions that most people would rather avoid.

The New One, it's all about birth and change.

the expansion of the show is coming out as a book May 5th, which is...

The subtitle is The New Unpainfully True Stories from a Reluctant Dad.

I read enough of the book about the Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016 by the name of Shattered to know that they were relying less on polling and more on analytics.

And they were getting all sorts of very positive indications that based on what had happened in past elections, they didn't need to spend much time in Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Again, it's the sort of thing that they were blinded from seeing what was happening in Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania because had they known, surely that campaign would have done something different.

I wrote a couple books, Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot and other observations, I have that book lies and lying liars who tell them the fair and balanced look at the right and I was this is The first one was in 95 I think yeah, and the second one was in 2003 and I was basically saying there's a lot of disinformation being put out there by the right And it's very dangerous And I don't know what's happened to that idea And then of course you add social media onto that then you add sort of this Segmentation of our population that people are you know, red areas are getting red areas bluer and as part of the danger here because People are just told over and over again. The election was rigged trump really won and they believe it

He defied the Tsar, the Communist Party. He wrote The Gulag Archipelago about the Gulag system.

Harris burst onto the cultural scene in 2004 with the publication of his provocative book The End of Faith.

He's the host of the Making Sense podcast and the author of Waking Up, a guide to spirituality without religion.

One of your endeavors, as you mentioned a second ago, was a dedication to and a teaching of meditation. You have an app called Waking Up. You have a book by the same name, Waking Up, A Guide to Spirituality Without Religion.

I think about the mindset of a good scientist as involving simple values like preferring humility over pride and curiosity over closure.

And that means you don't let your ideas become your identity, that when you have an opinion, you treat that as a hypothesis to be tested.

When ideas survive, it's not because they're true. It's because they're interesting.

The Science of Reasoning with Unreasonable People.

The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know.

In 2020, she published a biography of the House Speaker aptly titled Pelosi.

You know, so much of what I chart in my book is not just her own history, but the history of how she's been perceived.

And part of the reason for that is you wrote a book five years ago or six years ago called The Field of Blood, Violence in Congress and the Road to Civil War.

So, you know, in my book I write about I don't know 80, 70, 80 violent incidents in the House and Senate in say a 30-year period which is a lot but again, I suppose you can do what some mathematically inclined person would do and chop it up.

And so part of what's interesting about this moment is that there's been a lot of violent rhetoric praising violence, former president Trump, you know smiling at it, offering to get lawyers for people if they engage in it, all of that kind of behavior over the years in which he clearly on a certain level enjoys that people are willing to do that for him and that ethos even without actual violence is enough to encourage violence, to discourage people, to intimidate people and to motivate people to step forward and do things that now they feel encouraged to do that they might not have otherwise.

Once upon a time, Disney was a motion picture studio in a sea of Hollywood studios doing something nobody else was doing. Disney's business is memory making. Disney's business is tradition. But here's the thing about kingdoms, they don't last forever. To survive, Disney had to grow.

But as that tremendous growth eroded what made Disney, Disney. And I don't know if the world cares that this is a Disney movie anymore.

We hear the phrase constitutional crisis an awful lot these days. But what if the root cause of the crisis is the Constitution itself?

The more the Supreme Court limits the meaning of the Constitution to what it was in 1787, the more desperate it is that we'd be able to change the Constitution by amendment.

His 2020 book, Between Two Fires, Truth, Ambition and Compromise in Putin's Russia, won the Orwell Prize for its depiction of everyday life in that country.

That comes obviously from Charles Dickens... where he called the law an ass.

He's written a book about Donald Trump.

He regularly writes articles saying how wonderful Trump is.

They say our constitutional tradition stands against the idea that we need Oceania's Ministry of Truth, a reference to George Orwell.

And I think that's something that each individual lawyer has to struggle with on their own.

I think it's critical in law school to think about, once you know the truth about what is actually moving the legal system, should you press those levers?

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that law is somehow treated as different from any other area.

It is incredibly backwards looking.

If you've thought about, for example, a doctor, you go to the doctor with some medical condition, and the doctor is like, well, let me go get this dusty book off and see how they treated this 200 years ago. That's crazy, right?

I think that these problems arise because of a heedlessness to children's welfare, even from those who are directly charged with looking out for kids.

I think we did not include children back 100 years ago when we were extending the right to vote to women. We did not include them more recently when we lowered the voting age to 18.

I think really this is a story about the fact that kids are able, they have a stake, and they ought to have a right, too, to have their voice heard in this country.

And I say, well, what are those issues? Well, gun control, trans rights, global warming, social media.

And I think, you know, what this book is about, it does start with an incredibly bold idea. It's the notion that to create the America that we all want, we need to put children first.