The Rubin Report

His new book, Truths, The Future of America First comes out next week.

next week we'll have a special mini interview with Vivek just on the book.

it's coming out next week is that I don't really think we're up against an ideology here in Kamala Harris

one of the chapters in the book speaks directly to this facts are not conspiracies.

that's something i hope to achieve in writing this book and it's again why i was so keen on putting it out before the election rather than afterwards so people could actually begin to really open their eyes.

I'm a fan of getting the best possible arguments for the other side on the table.

So the CEO of national public radio, who at least had something interesting to say. You could say you disagree with it or not. I do disagree with it, but at least let's just get it on the table where the argument she makes is that actually our focus, and I think she calls it our obsession over the truth or what is true can distract us from doing what is actually important, which is bringing people together is what she calls it.

I think that that's a debate then you're able to have. I respect her for saying it, even though I deeply disagree with her because at least it was in some sense an honest portrayal of what's actually going on.

The chapters are modeled on some of the things I said during my campaign. But Truths like the idea that God is real, that the climate change agenda is a hoax, that reverse racism is racism, that an open border is not a border, that there are two genders, that parents should be the one determining the education of their children, that the nuclear family isn't a bad word. It's the greatest form of governance known to mankind, that there's three branches of government in the United States of America, not four, that the US Constitution is the strongest and greatest guarantor of freedom known in human history, that there's facts that are separate from conspiracies and facts are not conspiracies. Nationalism need not be a bad word.

It's what you don't know that just ain't, it's what you think you do know that just ain't so.

His new book, Truths, The Future of America First comes out next week.

next week we'll have a special mini interview with Vivek just on the book.

this is actually one of the core points that I make in my book and why I was intent on publishing it ahead of the election it's coming out next week is that I don't really think we're up against an ideology here in Kamala Harris

one of the chapters in the book speaks directly to this facts are not conspiracies.

it's again why i was so keen on putting it out before the election rather than afterwards so people could actually begin to really open their eyes.

I'm Dave Rubin and joining me today is the founding editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire, the host of The Ben Shapiro Show, author of the new book The Authoritarian Moment How the Left Weaponized America's Institutions Against Descent and the Fastest Talking Jew on all of the Internet.

This is what your 87th book or 95th or where we at now.

It's a lot of books. As a guy who just finished my second, I admire someone that has written this many books.

the authoritarianism that I talk about in the book is really not the government top down authoritarianism that we've worried about in the past the idea the government is going to tell you what to do although that may be the natural outgrowth of a sort of attitudinal authoritarianism that's taken over what I'm talking about more is all of the institutions of society the non-governmental institutions of society in large part becoming more and more intolerance of dissent outlawing dissent social ostracization people losing their jobs people having family members not speaking to them anymore and this is leading to a complete breakdown in the possibility of us even having a republic together it's really really dangerous stuff and everybody feels it this is the part that's amazing is that we're all being gasped by the media that says that this stuff is not important or that you know it's just making the country better but by polling data every single subgroup in the United States including mainstream liberals with the with the exception of far left radicals with the exception of the far left every single subgroup in the United States says they are afraid to say what they believe about politics publicly that's insane okay that is a good indicator of where we are and and how far we have to go

I open the book by talking about January 6th because I think that there's a trick that's being played right now and it's why the Democrats are trying to do the January 6th commission make a big deal out of January 6th listen January 6th was a big deal but it was a big deal because law enforcement failed to stop a couple of hundred idiots from running into the Capitol building the notion that it was a full-scale assault on democracy that was going to end with the overthrow of our democracy the worst democratic situation since the civil war in the words of then AOC

ben's new book which came out this week i think it's coming out i think it's today right if i'm not mistaken comes out today so we drop in Shapiro the day it comes out it's called The Authoritarian Moment and it's a really interesting read

for me, comedy is a religion for me because I unfortunately don't have a religion.

What we're doing right now with comedy and speech is actually stricter and more fire and brimstone than Leviticus, because I don't think anybody would tell, would be able to honestly tell you the worst thing that they've ever been through is hearing a joke that they thought was offensive.

there's not a such thing as something that you can't joke about. And yes, I'm including religion. Yes, I'm including death. Yes, I'm including terminal illness because there's research that backs this stuff up.

What matters is the intention and there's this very harmful idea out there right now that it's not the intention.

I mean if you wanna tell people the truth you better be funny or they're gonna punch you in the face so it's something like that

For me, comedy is a religion for me because I unfortunately don't have a religion.

What we're doing right now with comedy and speech is actually stricter and more fire and brimstone than Leviticus, because I don't think anybody would tell, would be able to honestly tell you the worst thing that they've ever been through is hearing a joke that they thought was offensive.

I write a chapter, obviously, about the shit bag, which I had that emergency surgery, I had an ostomy for five weeks.

There's not a such thing as something that you can't joke about. And yes, I'm including religion. Yes, I'm including death. Yes, I'm including terminal illness because there's research that backs this stuff up.

What matters is the intention and there's this very harmful idea out there right now that it's not the intention.

for me, comedy is a religion for me because I unfortunately don't have a religion.

What we're doing right now with comedy and speech is actually stricter and more fire and brimstone than Leviticus

there's not a such thing as something that you can't joke about. And yes, I'm including religion. Yes, I'm including death. Yes, I'm including terminal illness

What matters is the intention

I mean if you wanna tell people the truth you better be funny or they're gonna punch you in the face

I did write an entire book here, Defending Classical Liberalism, Defending the Liberalism that once was the Democratic Party.

I write about that in my book Defending Liberalism.

The only time I ever thought of giving up was after writing a book called Empire of Lies, which was a very difficult book and a very emotional book and it really wrecked me.

Now, the only time I ever thought of giving up was after writing a book called Empire of Lies, which was a very difficult book and a very emotional book and it really wrecked me.

The only time I ever thought of giving up was after writing a book called Empire of Lies, which was a very difficult book and a very emotional book and it really wrecked me.

he is one of the most enlightened decent evolved human beings on the planet obviously wrote The Power of Now which is one of the best-selling books of all time really all about being in the moment we talk about digital detox

I began from a point of taking seriously their pain.

A lot of people look at them and say, oh, they have no reason to be upset, and they've lived through no world war and no great depression. Why should they be so bummed out?

But we have a generation that has lonelier, sadder, more depressed, more anxious than anyone we've ever seen, and interestingly, they've also gotten the most mental health resources.

They've had the most therapy of any generation, fortunately 42% have been in therapy. Huge numbers are on psychiatric drugs, and the question is then why aren't they the picture of mental health, instead they're the picture of despair?

The mental health professionals have been participating in the problem

Douglas Murray's attack on "Sapiens" author Yuval Noah Harari ignoring the importance of a classical education curriculum

Douglas Murray if you would teach a child, uh the bible, Plato, Shakespeare

I think I can say with 100% certainty, all of that will still be useful in 20 years time, and it'll be useful in 50 years time, and a hundred years time, and more is the pity that so many modern education systems don't give you any sight of yes because later, well because then you don't know what you're grounded in and the problem is then you don't know the waters you're swimming in, so many of us those kids who are out there chanting for things they have no idea what they're saying, they're not grounded to anything related to reality of media that lies to them, education system that lies to them and everything else, but we better start fixing it.

in his book he talks about that the age of free will is over and he says that's right now that you don't really make the decisions that you think you make because you're so influenced by what you see

The Bible matters. I mean, you know, the values that we hold dear in America came from the Bible.

The Bible still sells more books than... You know, last time I checked, it sells like 2,400 books an hour.

And all those rights, you know, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, they're sourced right in the Bible.

If we want to preserve our biblical heritage, or at least the biblical values, whether we're observant or not, it's not about being religious or not, but about observing, you know, these ancient but still relevant Judeo-Christian values.

It's the book. It's the book that kept us together again. Whether you believe in God or not, the book kept us together.

Bible sells more books on Amazon than any other book.

Anybody who reads the Bible knows that Jerusalem belongs to the Jewish people, including most of the Christian world.

That's the kind of language Hitler used in Mein Kampf.

That's a horrifying clip. That's a fascist clip. He's just going full on Hitler. From Hitler's Germany.

We just need to say for the record that the term vermin was really effectively used by Adolf Hitler.

Echo dictators like Hitler.

With language evoking authoritarian figures like Adolf Hitler. Adolf Hitler. Donald Trump parroted the autocratic language of Adolf Hitler. Talk about the brilliance of Hitler's generals.

You mean your elementary school didn't have Mein Kampf?

If you want to read Mein Kampf, Dennis, read Mein Kampf. But we're not going to give you fellatio books.

And it's going to be like Handmaid's Tale.

You're going to be in a lot of trouble.

Before you tell me that Donald Trump is going to put me in The Handmaid's Tale and I'm going to be at home making sandwiches, at least I'll be the only wife.

So, I mean, woke is sort of the idea that this is gonna be one of those moments that goes viral. I mean, woke is something that's very hard to define and we've spent an entire chapter defining it. It is sort of the understanding that we need to totally reimagine and re-do society in order to create hierarchies of oppression. Sorry, it's hard to explain in a 15 second soundbite.

I published that book, enjoyed for a year and a half traveling around the country, no agenda, just speaking my mind freely without any corporate agenda, any political agenda.

But the short version of it is that Wall Street realized they could go from being the bad guys after the 08 crisis to being the good guys if they just said the right things. Muse about diversity and inclusion, the unjust impact of climate change after you fly in a private jet to Davos.

It was a cynical arranged marriage though between two partners in that marriage that did not particularly love or respect one another. Big business in the neo-progressive woke movement.

And so the publisher kind of told me and advisors who helped me put that book together said, look, you got to pick one or the other. Start with the first one.

And the second book is really about the underlying flyer, the fire, the conflagration on which corporations threw that fuel.

But the best values in the history of the world are contained in those five books, which is why I'm writing my Rational Bible series on each of those five books, to explain all the great answers to evil are in those five books.

i've been working on The Rational Bible the third of five volumes is coming out for christmas and it's the best-selling bible commentary in america

casco ordered 35 000 copies of deuteronomy

In 1965, I read this book here, The Communist Manifesto.

if you read this book here, I wrote this book here in counter to it. It's called the capitalist manifesto because I am a US Marine, I'm academy graduate and I fight for the freedom of principle.

I'm fighting for our freedom and there's a fine line between that and capitalism.

So before we get into capitalism itself, give me a little bit of your bio for the people that maybe have not read it because it's quite extraordinary and pretty much explains exactly why you care about the things that you write about.

I'm fighting for freedom and I'm watching the news. Dave, what our press was reporting wasn't what was happening.

It might be the most divisive speech I've ever heard in my life.

I talk about this in my book. He did the exact opposite.

I talk about this in my book.

And I talk about this in my book.

There's a chapter dedicated to how the Democrats are racializing everything and using identity politics to tear us apart. There's a chapter dedicated to how they defy the existence of objective truth in our society and every issue that I bring up is not a partisan issue, it's something that that every one of us as Americans should be concerned about and also talks about solutions.

I've got her book right there, it's just out of arm's reach, but Tulsi Gabbard who will be sitting in here this afternoon is another sane liberal, not lunatic lefty, who just wrote a book, the sub, it's called "For Love of Country". What does it say? Leave the Democratic party behind, pretty clean and clear on what she's going for there.

Did you see this video of Richard Dawkins talking about that recently?

I did just to be clear, he's had that position since The God Delusion about a Christian nation.

After Dawkins book, The God Delusion became bestselling 2006, and there was kind of a split in the atheist and humanist skeptics movement about how militant you are in your atheism. You gotta be really militant. It's like, no, you don't.

You have some groups that want to take away classic books like To Kill a Mockingbird, but they want things like Gender Queer, a memoir,

You have some groups that want to take away classic books like To Kill a Mockingbird, but they want things like Gender Queer, a memoir, which is a cartoon style book with graphic images of children performing sexual acts.

But they want to eliminate Of Mice and Men. But Lawn Boy, a book containing explicit passages of pedophilia, is somehow accepted as being OK.

But they want to eliminate Of Mice and Men.

Critical, there's this book. It's called How Jews Became White Folks and what that means about race in America. It's by a woman named Karen.

The playbook is called Beautiful Trouble. You can go to the website, beautifultrouble.org. You can read their playbook.

So they have this playbook. It's a million little, you know, snippet websites. And one of their playbook plays is do the media's work for them.

It's an update for rules for radicals, which a lot of people have heard of. Saul Alinsky's famous handbook for radicals and it's called Beautiful Trouble. In Beautiful Trouble, one of the core principles of activism today is that you are to frame out that you're this kind of victim at all times.

You're not a serious player in what's happening if you haven't looked at Beautiful Trouble. Another one of their core principles is your target's reaction is your real action.