The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

um you wrote fantasy land um fantasy land 500 years of how America went haywire um Kurt Anderson

And then I stumbled on a book called Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman.

I didn't agree with 100% of what he wrote. I still don't, however, the fundamental logic of the free market system to me as an inescapable.

I've viewed, writing, I viewed Apocalypse Never as cognitive behavioral therapy both for myself and for other people.

And in fact, the highest praise I received from people is to who's told me that they were very depressed about the environment and then they read Apocalypse Never and they felt much better.

That's one of the things I really liked about it was that in each sub-chapter you drill down at least to some degree to the level of actually actual implementable policy.

So you start with the story about this group and now I should ask you first, who are you exactly to write such a book? Like why do you know this? Why should people listen to you?

This is that's my apocalypse numbers, my second book.

one of the people I pick on very deservedly in fossil future is Michael Mann who's a climate scientist and activist who is one of the leading advisors and if you look at Michael Mann's statements one thing he has said is the ideal population for earth is a billion people yeah yeah how can you possibly say that there are eight billion people like how can you possibly look at earth and say oh yeah it's too many people that has a murderous impulse to it if you just look at the earth and you say oh yeah seven billion people should go and what I point out with Michael Mann is that if you look at how he's evaluating the issue he's totally indifferent to the benefits of fossil fuels he has a whole book people can look it up called The Madhouse Effect about fossil fuels and climate and he doesn't mention any benefits of fossil fuels for example he talks about agriculture and fossil fuels he only talks about negatives he doesn't once mention diesel powered agricultural equipment or natural gas derived fertilizer even though those make it possible for us to feed eight billion people

his book The Selfish Gene what what would you say the the the sense that that desire is there is implicit in the text

Jack Walsh in this book is Straight From the Gut, a weird thing he said, you know once you have a doubt on somebody you never asked enough, which you know took me years to really believe that.

You might have heard of Orphan X or the book of Henry.

He's the New York Times number one international best-selling officer of 23 thrillers including the Orphan X series.

I have a book dr. peterson i have a book that was published in 1998 four kids i brought it with me show and tell this book came out it's called my my gender workbook um and it has on the cover um if you see the picture here is half half a barbie and half a can uh-huh okay obviously a book for young people and the entire premise of this book is that the gender binary uh is false that we are not we do not all fit into this category of male and female and and they're not talking about her mafridates or intersex okay they're talking about none of us no one fits into it it's oppressive and we need to rebel against it so clearly written by the author is Kate bornstein an individual who um has had a very interesting gender journey going back and forth born as a male then a female then back and then neither and this individual Kate bornstein in 1998 again i'm just i want to emphasize how long ago this book was available and written four young people to challenge them and to um to to indoctrinate them with the idea that society is placing on you these false restrictions society is telling you yeah you have to be a boy or a girl and that is um that that is something that is it's like racism it's like sexism it's a terrible thing patriarchal oppress yes and we have to break it's in its purist form so you know you have to understand that that this is very enticing for teenagers who want to believe in something and want the world to be a better place and they want to fight against something they want to fight against the evil so this is presented as another evil that exists in society so um you know and this in this book actually was recommended uh by oh gosh i'm gonna say i'm not sure the American Psychiatric Association or maybe it was the American Psychological Association one of those major professional mental health organizations way before um the DSM acknowledged gender dysphoria was not a disorder

I've been reading your book, your new book, Bibi: My Story. It weaves an interesting personal tale, familial tale and political cultural tale altogether.

In his newest book, Bibi: My Story, the newly reelected Prime Minister tells the story of his family, his people, his path to leadership and his unceasing commitment to defending his country and securing its future.

...and I discuss it and consider we're lengthened my book because people are so ignorant of history...

...and I labor not only in the present book my own history, Bibi: My Story, but in a previous book, a place among the nations, to debunk...

...and I unabashedly am trying to plug in this conversation and I urge you to read it...

that that would be the most important thing to focus on because I'm not sure that efforts to change the cognitive skills gap will be that successful over time. But really, all we ask is people to respect the law and to to restrain their impulses.