The Avoidable War
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What Xi Jinping Wants
Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation on something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousne...
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Klein described Children of Ruin as a scifi book about an advanced civilization built by octopuses, noting he bought it immediately and loved how it examined alien mindsets.
I did an episode on octopuses, and I immediately got all these emails from you saying, have you read Adrian Tchaikovsky's Children of Ruin? Children of Ruin, when I looked it up, turns out to be a sci...
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Klein described Children of Ruin as a scifi book about an advanced civilization built by octopuses, noting he bought it immediately and loved how it examined alien mindsets.
I did an episode on octopuses, and I immediately got all these emails from you saying, have you read Adrian Tchaikovsky's Children of Ruin? Children of Ruin, when I looked it up, turns out to be a scifi book about an advanced civilization built by octopuses, which sold, completely sold immediately on that. And so I bought it, and I started reading it.
The second book in the series is Children of Ruin. One of the main things it's about is a society that built up around octopuses.
Ezra mentioned it as Andrei Tchaikovsky's great scifi book about octopus society.
There's Andrei Tchaikovsky's great scifi book about octopus society, Children of Ruin.
Adrian Tchaikovsky's scifi novel about hyperintelligent societies was recommended as a compelling work of speculative fiction.
There is such a book and it's called Children of Ruin by Adrian Tchaikovsky. It's the sequel to Children of Time and both are great biologically informed science fiction about hyperintelligent societies.
Machine Learning and Human Values
Ezra Klein praised it as the single best book on AI alignment and technical questions, calling it a deep work on machine learning and human learning.
Brian Christian, who wrote a book called The Alignment Problem, which in my view is the single best book you can read on the issue of machine intelligence and the way it is difficult...
— Episode: Best Of: Is A.I. the Problem? Or Are We?
Ezra Klein praised it as the single best book on AI alignment and technical questions, calling it a deep work on machine learning and human learning.
Brian Christian, who wrote a book called The Alignment Problem, which in my view is the single best book you can read on the issue of machine intelligence and the way it is difficult for our form of intelligence to interact with it.
He's the author of the book The Alignment Problem.
Brian Christian, your book is The Alignment Problem. It is fantastic.
Ezra suggested it as a great book to explore AI risk, recommending listeners check it out for deeper insight.
author of the really great book on this subject, The Alignment Problem
It was praised as the best book on the technical and moral questions of AI, offering a deep look at machine learning and its relation to human learning.
Brian Christian, your book is The Alignment Problem. It is fantastic.
How Covid Shook the World's Economy
He mentioned that he wrote the book Shutdown about the 2020 crisis while discussing the concept of polycrisis.
which I picked up when I wrote this book, Shut Down, about the 2020 crisis.
— Episode: How the Fed Is ‘Shaking the Entire Syste...
He mentioned that he wrote the book Shutdown about the 2020 crisis while discussing the concept of polycrisis.
which I picked up when I wrote this book, Shut Down, about the 2020 crisis.
Ezra Klein introduced the new book as a story of the unprecedented global economic response to the pandemic.
He's the author of the book Crashed, which for my money is the single best history of the financial crisis, and now of Shutdown, How COVID Shook the World's Economy.
It was mentioned as Tooze's new book about the global economic response to the pandemic.
and now of Shutdown, How COVID Shook the World's Economy
The Impoverishment of Political Discourse
It was mentioned as an older 1990s book that diagnoses the same problems Greene describes, offering a conservative perspective on rights.
One is a book called Rights Talk, which is an older book from the 1990s by Mary Ann Glendon, which diagnoses some of the same problems that I diagnosed in how rights went wrong.
— Episode: The Supreme Court Went Off the Rails Lon...
It was mentioned as an older 1990s book that diagnoses the same problems Greene describes, offering a conservative perspective on rights.
One is a book called Rights Talk, which is an older book from the 1990s by Mary Ann Glendon, which diagnoses some of the same problems that I diagnosed in how rights went wrong.
Glendon's book was highlighted as an evenhanded critique of libertarian philosophy and a call to protect the vulnerable and the common good.
Marian Glendon... her book Rights Talk was incredibly influential for those who don't know her.
Glendon's 1990s book diagnosed similar problems to Greene's but from a conservative perspective, showing that both sides can agree on the flaws in how rights are handled.
One is a book called Rights Talk, which is an older book from the 1990s by Mary Ann Glendon, which diagnoses some of the same problems that I diagnosed in how rights went wrong, but she's a conservative.
How to Change Everything
The work presented an analysis of the international feminist movement that helped shape the 2017 International Women's Strike.
The final text, the third text, is called Feminist International. It was published in English last year and it's by Veronica Gago.
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The work presented an analysis of the international feminist movement that helped shape the 2017 International Women's Strike.
The final text, the third text, is called Feminist International. It was published in English last year and it's by Veronica Gago.
It's one of the most important texts to come out of the international feminist movement that culminated in the International Women's Strike in 2017.
Ezra presented the recent Englishlanguage title as a key text of the international feminist movement linked to the 2017 International Women's Strike.
The final text, the third text, is called Feminist International. It was published in English last year and it's by Veronica Gago. It's one of the most important texts to come out of the international feminist movement that culminated in the International Women's Strike in 2017.
It was presented as an important recent Englishlanguage text on the international feminist movement, linking the 2017 International Women's Strike to a broader radical feminist coalition.
The final text is called Feminist International, published in English last year by Veronica Gago. It is one of the most important texts to come out of the international feminist movement that culminated in the International Women's Strike in 2017, illustrating mass radical feminist coalitions across countries.
A History of Nazi Germany
Dan recalled reading it as a kid and rereading it multiple times, calling it a fascinating account of Nazi Germany.
i read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich when i was a kid and i've reread it a couple of times ... it's a fascinating book
— Episode: Dan Savage on Polyamory, Chosen Family a...
Dan recalled reading it as a kid and rereading it multiple times, calling it a fascinating account of Nazi Germany.
i read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich when i was a kid and i've reread it a couple of times ... it's a fascinating book
Vitalik Buterin mentioned reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich last year and found it a fascinating inside view of the Nazi era.
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich i read this one last year and it was just a fascinating inside view tome into like basically how this country really descended into one of the scariest totalitarian regimes that humanity has seen in quite a long time and on a large scale.
Ben mentioned he was listening to the audiobook version of Running the Light, noting its dark humor and comedic narration.
And then I mentioned Sam Talent before. I am currently listening to the audiobook version of his Running the Light novel, which is narrated by a series of prominent, mostly New York b...
— Episode: A Conservative on How His Party Has Chan...
Ben mentioned he was listening to the audiobook version of Running the Light, noting its dark humor and comedic narration.
And then I mentioned Sam Talent before. I am currently listening to the audiobook version of his Running the Light novel, which is narrated by a series of prominent, mostly New York but national level comedians who take on each chapter and it's hilarious and dark.
Domenech mentioned he was listening to the audiobook version, noting it is narrated by comedians and is both hilarious and dark.
I am currently listening to the audiobook version of his Running the Light novel, which is narrated by a series of prominent, mostly New York but national level comedians who take on each chapter and it's hilarious and dark.
Mollick called Blindsight a depressing yet fascinating scifi thriller about an alien mission that explores sentience, consciousness and intelligence, making it a chilling read for a world with potentially nonsentient AI.
The third book is Blindsight by Peter Watts, a depressing but fascinating thriller about an interstellar mission to an alien race that explores sentience, consciousness and intelligen...
— Episode: How Should I Be Using A.I. Right Now?
Mollick called Blindsight a depressing yet fascinating scifi thriller about an alien mission that explores sentience, consciousness and intelligence, making it a chilling read for a world with potentially nonsentient AI.
The third book is Blindsight by Peter Watts, a depressing but fascinating thriller about an interstellar mission to an alien race that explores sentience, consciousness and intelligence, making it a chilling read for a world where machines might be intelligent without being sentient.
Klein mentioned Blindsight while discussing neurodiversity, noting that Peter Watts looks at the benefits of neurodiversity in that book.
The idea of neurodiversity as a survival trait is something that Peter Watts also looks at the benefits of neurodiversity in books like Blindsight.
How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness
The book was highlighted as a leading analysis of how technology is reshaping childhood and contributing to a mental‑health crisis. Spencer Cox referenced it as a preeminent work on youth and technology, while Ezra Klein noted that its publication sparked significant discussion about the epidemic. Both hosts presented it as essential reading for understanding the current challenges facing the younger generation.
Cox mentioned Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation as a preeminent work on the impact of technology on youth.
I know we both know Jonathan Haidt, who's written the kind of the preeminent book, The Anxious Generation.
Haidt argued that the rewiring of childhood through smartphones is driving a mentalillness epidemic.
In March of last year, the social psychologist Jonathan Haidt published this book called The Anxious Generation, which caused, let's call it a stir.
A New Translation (Modern Library)
In two episodes, the guest mentioned picking up the title and reflected on its timeless wisdom about focusing on what one can control and taking accountability for outcomes. He described the teachings as powerful, even though he did not claim to love the book outright.
He mentioned picking up Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and reflected on its timeless wisdom about control and agency.
I finally picked it up off the shelf. I'm like, what the heck? Meditations from Marcus Aurelius. It's about understanding what you can influence and taking accountability for what happens.
The speaker recalled finally picking up Meditations on a nightstand and reflected on its teachings about focusing on what one can control, calling it powerful despite not loving the book outright.
I finally picked it up off the shelf. I'm like, what the heck? Meditations from Marcus Aurelius. It's more about understanding what you can influence and taking accountability.
Ezra suggested revisiting Cormac McCarthy's work and noted that while many know The Road, his other books are less familiar.
I'm not going to, it would be cheating, but what I will say is that this is a great summer to revisit or to introduce yourself to the entire pantheon of Cormac McCarthy. Lots of people are familiar wi...
— Episode: A Conservative on How His Party Has Chan...
Ezra suggested revisiting Cormac McCarthy's work and noted that while many know The Road, his other books are less familiar.
I'm not going to, it would be cheating, but what I will say is that this is a great summer to revisit or to introduce yourself to the entire pantheon of Cormac McCarthy. Lots of people are familiar with The Road, but people are not generally familiar, I think, with some of his other works.
Domenech suggested revisiting it as part of a broader look at McCarthy's work, noting it is widely known compared to his other titles.
Lots of people are familiar with The Road, but people are not generally familiar, I think, with some of his other works.
An Autobiography
The guest highlighted Stefan Zweig's memoir as an amazing book about life in Vienna before World WarI.
Stefan Zweig's books are always amazing, especially The World of Yesterday about the lives in Vienna prior to World War I.
— Episode: The View From the Israeli Right
The guest highlighted Stefan Zweig's memoir as an amazing book about life in Vienna before World WarI.
Stefan Zweig's books are always amazing, especially The World of Yesterday about the lives in Vienna prior to World War I.
Ben said he had read it twice since Trump's election, finding it haunting, beautiful, and a vivid account of Europe's liberal order collapsing during World WarII.
The World of Yesterday by Stefan Schweig... I've found myself reading twice since Trump's election. But it's just haunting and beautiful, contemporaneous. You know, Stefan Schweig was a great Austrian writer writing this, writing in the midst of World War II his kind of life story. But it's really about the collapse of the liberal order in Europe.
The host referenced Moby Dick as a novel that initially sold poorly but later became an iconic work of literature.
Moby Dick barely sold in Herman Melville's lifetime and only became this iconic work of literature over a century.
— Episode: How to Discover Your Own Taste
The host referenced Moby Dick as a novel that initially sold poorly but later became an iconic work of literature.
Moby Dick barely sold in Herman Melville's lifetime and only became this iconic work of literature over a century.
Ezra confessed that reading the classic transformed his thoughts about whales and that it changed his life, using it as a point of reference for other whalerelated books.
I read Moby Dick this year and it changed my life and I talk about it all the time now.
The Science of Focus in the Digital Age
Mark's book examined attention as a cognitive faculty rather than a productivity tool, explaining how tiredness reduces intentional capacity.
She is one of the foundational, most significant researchers in the attention field and the author of the book, Attention Spam.
— Episode: Best Of: Tired? Distracted? Burned Out?...
Mark's book examined attention as a cognitive faculty rather than a productivity tool, explaining how tiredness reduces intentional capacity.
She is one of the foundational, most significant researchers in the attention field and the author of the book, Attention Spam.
You make a pretty important move very early on in the book. And you see this isn't really a book about productivity that we tend to bucket attention as a faculty of productivity and when we don't have enough of it we worry that we're not being productive enough.
Ezra Klein noted that Gloria Mark, a professor of information science, was the author of the book *Attention Span* and cited her expertise while discussing research on how people use computers.
While I was working on this piece, I called Gloria Mark, who is a professor of information science at the University of California at Irvine and the author of this book, Attention Span.
Klein mentioned this earlier work as part of Kingsolver's acclaimed bibliography.
She wrote The Bean Trees, she wrote The Poisonwood Bible, she has won all kinds of prizes.
— Episode: Best Of: Barbara Kingsolver on ‘Urban-Ru...
Klein mentioned this earlier work as part of Kingsolver's acclaimed bibliography.
She wrote The Bean Trees, she wrote The Poisonwood Bible, she has won all kinds of prizes.
Kingsolver's acclaimed novel was cited alongside her other works.
She wrote The Bean Trees, she wrote The Poisonwood Bible.
The Origins of Our Discontents
The book was mentioned as a recommended read, suggested alongside other titles for its insight into systemic inequality.
And then Isabel Wilkerson's book, Caste.
— Episode: Families Are Drowning in Care Costs. Her...
The book was mentioned as a recommended read, suggested alongside other titles for its insight into systemic inequality.
And then Isabel Wilkerson's book, Caste.
The book was listed among the three recommendations for essential reading.
And then Isabel Wilkerson's book, Cast.
Robert Moses and the Fall of New York
Ezra Klein highlighted The Power Broker as a massive, Pulitzerwinning biography of Robert Moses and recommended it strongly to listeners.
I'm going to be really basic and I'm going to say The Power Broker by Robert Caro. Massive tome. If it takes you two years to read it, don't feel bad. But it's Pulitzer Prize winning...
— Episode: The Most Thorough Case Against Crypto I'...
Ezra Klein highlighted The Power Broker as a massive, Pulitzerwinning biography of Robert Moses and recommended it strongly to listeners.
I'm going to be really basic and I'm going to say The Power Broker by Robert Caro. Massive tome. If it takes you two years to read it, don't feel bad. But it's Pulitzer Prize winning biography of Robert Moses, who is the guy who destroyed New York City.
The book was mentioned as a touchstone for the conversation, with the host saying his own work is in dialogue with Caro's classic study of Robert Moses.
The Power Broker, which is my book is sort of in conversation with The Power Broker.
my book is in conversation with Robert Caro's The Power Broker.
The Unabridged and Complete Edition (Thomas Paine Classics)
The host mentioned reading it as part of a tradition of influential political works that have shaped American discourse.
You read Common Sense by Thomas Paine. You read Lincoln's speeches. You listen to Fannie Lou Hamer.
— Episode: Can James Talarico Reclaim Christianity...
The host mentioned reading it as part of a tradition of influential political works that have shaped American discourse.
You read Common Sense by Thomas Paine. You read Lincoln's speeches. You listen to Fannie Lou Hamer.
The book was referenced as something the host had read, implying its relevance to political discourse.
You read Common Sense by Thomas Paine.
A Novel
It was praised as a profoundly prescient and beautiful mustread novel.
Parable of the Sower, you know, continues to be just profoundly prescient and a beautiful must read for everyone.
— Episode: Best of: What ‘Drained-Pool’ Politics Co...
It was praised as a profoundly prescient and beautiful mustread novel.
Parable of the Sower, you know, continues to be just profoundly prescient and a beautiful must read for everyone.
The guest recommended the novel as a prescient and beautiful mustread for everyone, noting its relevance to understanding race in America.
Parable of the Sower, you know, continues to be just profoundly prescient and a beautiful mustread for everyone.
Rules for Focused Success in a Distracted World
Newport explains why focused, distractionfree work is essential for a rich, meaningful life.
The second book is by Cal Newport, it's called Deep Work, and this is why I'm so passionate about attention--without your attention you can't do anything.
— Episode: ‘Our Kids Are the Least Flourishing Gene...
Newport explains why focused, distractionfree work is essential for a rich, meaningful life.
The second book is by Cal Newport, it's called Deep Work, and this is why I'm so passionate about attention--without your attention you can't do anything.
Klein noted that Newport's earlier bestseller laid the groundwork for his later critique of digital distraction.
I've been a fan of Newport's work for years, going back to his book, Deep Work.
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