Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

Oh, yeah. Yeah, the yeah, The Green Mile is in Stephen King's novel. That was the walk.

There's an excellent novel by our pal Robert Evans good friend of the show called "It Could Happen Here" and it is a continuing podcast as well. Please do check it out.

check out It Could Happen Here by our pal robert evans

Oh, it reminds me of The Time Machine. The HG Wells novel where you had the Murlocs and the Eloys or whatever. And which was the Murlocs were the underground dwellers that really couldn't hang in the sun. The yeah, the Murlocs were the kind of snatch up the animals, animal industrial class who became the rulers and HG Wells plays a whole other bag of badgers.

For fiction, a good example of this would be the Eloi and the Morlocks from The Time Machine.

It says, look, here's why these murders occurred. Manson was convinced the U.S. would be ground zero for a civilization ending race war and Manson and his followers would hide away underground. And then after all the S hit the F, he and his followers would emerge from the social wreckage and they would reign over the smoking ruins of whatever was left.

O'Neill says though, he takes a little step further and he says the LAPD Los Angeles police department destroyed records from murder investigations involving Manson.

O'Neill interviews so many people for this. Sometimes the interviews are contentious and there are still people who have just refused to talk to him at all. Uh, but in one, in one conversation, he's talking to a guy named Alan Shefflin, a forensic psychologist.

And he asked Shefflin, he says, well, is it maybe possible that the Manson murders were part of an MK ultra experiment gone wrong?

Shefflin says, no, an MK ultra experiment gone, right? What's it makes so much sense. They want the hippies to be evil because the hippies are commies and the commies are bad.

I think Vincent Buligosi, who was the lead prosecutor mentions him in Helter Skelter, but this idea, this reference to Operation Chaos in specific is very interesting because Operation Chaos was a real thing.

We watched a movie that was based on Robert's work and it was a fictionalized telling of his story but we actually got to sit down with him and hear it from his own mouth. It was awesome.

Cool movie too by the way, The Infiltrator. Check it out and check out this classic episode right now.

Now last Friday, Ben and Noel and I got to go and see the film The Infiltrator, which is based on the book that this man, Robert Mazer, wrote about his time infiltrating the Medine Cartel in Columbia.

And you're going to see as we get into some of these questions, he's kind of separating what became the film as opposed to what was his real life and what he experienced.

It's a great film. I really would recommend it. It was a lot. It reminded me kind of had the feel of good fellows in a way that kind of really dynamic, interesting kind of ensemble cast and it was very funny.

We watched a movie that was based on Robert's work and it was a fictionalized telling of his story but we actually got to sit down with him and hear it from his own mouth. It was awesome.

Cool movie too by the way, The Infiltrator. Check it out and check out this classic episode right now.

Now last Friday, Ben and Noel and I got to go and see the film The Infiltrator, which is based on the book that this man, Robert Mazer, wrote about his time infiltrating the Medine Cartel in Columbia.

And you're going to see as we get into some of these questions, he's kind of separating what became the film as opposed to what was his real life and what he experienced.

It's a great film. I really would recommend it.

I saw a cold, dark, black emptiness. It was unlike any blackness you can see or feel on Earth. It was deep, enveloping, all-encompassing.

Everything I had thought was wrong. Everything I had expected to see was wrong.

They should have sent a poet.

Leaving that behind made my connection to our tiny planet even more profound. It was among the strongest feelings of grief I have ever encountered.

The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of Earth below filled me with overwhelming sadness.

I saw a cold, dark, black emptiness. It was unlike any blackness you can see or feel on Earth. It was deep, enveloping, all-encompassing.

Everything I had thought was wrong. Everything I had expected to see was wrong.

They should have sent a poet.

Leaving that behind made my connection to our tiny planet even more profound. It was among the strongest feelings of grief I have ever encountered.

It filled me with dread. My trip to space was supposed to be a celebration. Instead, it felt like a funeral.

same with like that book mouse graphic novel mouse which is about you know Nazism from the perspective of these like kind of anthropomorphized mice characters which is a very powerful piece of graphic literature but perhaps there were some bad language or there was something in it that was visually disturbing or whatever but how the Bible made this list is simultaneously bonkers to me and also makes a lot of sense because what book yeah Book of Songs The Swastika the Swastika that's on there I understand why people might be like hey maybe I'll do it

same with like that book mouse graphic novel mouse which is about you know Nazism from the perspective of these like kind of anthropomorphized mice characters which is a very powerful piece of graphic literature but perhaps there were some bad language or there was something in it that was visually disturbing or whatever but how the Bible made this list is simultaneously bonkers to me and also makes a lot of sense because what book yeah Book of Songs The Swastika the Swastika that's on there I understand why people might be like hey maybe I'll do it Well there's a beef story about mouse

This was not your garden variety pig This was As they say in Charlotte's Web Some pig

I do also, while we were mentioning books, want to highlight Blessed, a history of the American prosperity gospel. Thanks Kate Bowler. Yeah, it's a monograph and it's probably the best work of its kind out currently if you'd like to read more.

I do also, while we were mentioning books, want to highlight Blessed, a history of the American prosperity gospel. Thanks Kate Bowler. Yeah, it's a monograph and it's probably the best work of its kind out currently if you'd like to read more.

Have you guys ever read The Langoliers? Yes. By Stephen King.

Not to mention, Ben, I think a favorite trope of yours with King is haunted or sentient or haunted inanimate objects, specifically vehicles.

Have you guys ever read The Langoliers?

Yes, by Stephen King.

Yeah, there's, that's a cool plane time traveling, timey wimey kind of story.

There's a new book that just came out written by the Peabody award winning author Jeff Gwynn called Jim Jones: The Road to Jonestown.

There's a new book that just came out written by the Peabody award winning author Jeff Gwynn called Jim Jones. The Road to Jonestown.

The bodies seem to have been purposefully arranged in an imitation of two life-size sculptures that existed in the couple's home.

he just couldn't figure out why they were staged. Pretty confident is that they were staged that way on purpose.

I don't know what it means, but quote, I can't see how it doesn't mean something.

you can tell that Donovan is a little at the very least put diplomatically confused by some of the initial actions of the Toronto PD.

this to him indicates that the murderer must have somehow been incredibly familiar with the interior of the home.

The bodies seem to have been purposefully arranged in an imitation of two life-size sculptures that existed in the couple's home.

he just couldn't figure out why they were staged. Pretty confident is that they were staged that way on purpose.

I don't know what it means, but quote, I can't see how it doesn't mean something.

An author named Ethan Brown investigated this for a number of years. He wrote a book about it called Murder in the Bayou, and he also noted that all eight of the victims there in Jefferson Davis Parish were informants for local law enforcement about the drug sales in the drug trade there in Jennings, which is a very small town.

An author named Ethan Brown investigated this for a number of years. He wrote a book about it called Murder in the Bayou, and he also noted that all eight of the victims there in Jefferson Davis Parish were informants for local law enforcement about the drug sales in the drug trade there in Jennings, which is a very small town.

Raven Rock, the story of the US government's secret plan to save itself while the rest of us die.

Raven Rock, the story of the US government's secret plan to save itself while the rest of us die.

These are the secret plans that were developed in the wake of World War Two and continue up to the present day that deal with how the US government would survive a nuclear attack and rebuild afterwards.

The title of the book comes from Raven Rock, which is the Pentagon bunker, the backup Pentagon, this hollowed out mountain in Waynesboro, Pennsylvania, just over the Maryland line from Camp David, the President's weekend getaway.

And then NORAD, the Cheyenne Mountain bunker in Colorado Springs that's home to the North American air defense system, probably best known to some of the listeners here from the Matthew Broderick movie War Games.

Raven Rock, the story of the US government's secret plan to save itself -- while the rest of us die.

So these three bunkers, the sort of crown jewels of the US government's doomsday enterprise are literally hollowed out mountains.

And the police departments, fire departments, medical facilities, you know, everything that you would need in order to have, you know, thousands of people live for weeks or even months at a time underground.

The NORAD bunker even has a Subway fast food franchise inside.

And if that disappeared, I mean, if the president was dead or incapacitated, that power would pass right on down through the National Command authorities and the presidential line of succession to the vice president and on downward to ensure that there would always be someone in charge of launching nuclear war.

Have you guys seen that movie or read the book Doctor Sleep?

It's sort of, I guess, a sequel to The Shining. I just love it. It's sort of, I guess, a sequel to The Shining. I think it's one of Stephen King's better latter-day books.

And he does a good job of incorporating a lot of the things about The Shining. And it's nice to see where Danny ends up and he ends up a lot like Jack.

Have you guys seen that movie or read the book Doctor Sleep?

It's sort of, I guess, a sequel to The Shining. I think it's one of Stephen King's better latter day books.

Yeah, the story we're covering today has been the inspiration for several works of popular fiction. Ian Fleming's 1961 James Bond novel, which then became the movie Thunderball. It was inspired by it and there's a 1958 film called The Silent Enemy, which is really great and has nothing to do with farts, Noel, but it was based directly. Well, as close as you can get a Hollywood film to be based directly on something occurring.

Yeah, the story we're covering today has been the inspiration for several works of popular fiction. Ian Fleming's 1961 James Bond novel, which then became the movie Thunderball.

Are you guys aware of the Captain Underpants? Graphic novel series. Yes. Yes, then. Uh, are you actually if you don't have a kid you may not know Aware of it, okay, okay, but I know about I Didn't know that there were attempts to ban that series because the characters are quote Disrespectful to authority figures, which is really interesting if we're talking about control and then having the you know books in a school or Promoted by the school by having them made available And just to undermine your staff.

Are you guys aware of the Captain Underpants? Graphic novel series. Yes. Yes, then. Uh, are you actually if you don't have a kid you may not know Aware of it, okay, okay, but I know about I Didn't know that there were attempts to ban that series because the characters are quote Disrespectful to authority figures, which is really interesting if we're talking about control and then having the you know books in a school or Promoted by the school by having them made available And just to undermine your staff.

There's a great book out right now called Junk Science by Chris Fabricant that really shows you how the junk science is used in our courtrooms.

There's a great book out right now called Junk Science by Chris Fabricant that really shows you how the junk science is used in our courtrooms.