Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

We've also seen similar things such as The Devil in the White City, right?

Yeah, that's another one.

We've also seen similar things such as The Devil in the White City, right?

Yeah, that's another one.

Oh, yes, it is titled Chaos. Charles Manson, the CIA and the secret history of the 60s.

It's written by this guy named Tom O'Neill.

And then it says, and Dan Pipe and bring, which is, I don't know, just a co-author, I suppose. But this thing is fascinating. We both remembered when it came out in 2019.

It was reviewed by everybody from Rolling Stone to the CIA itself.

Yeah, it's great. I actually I reread several parts of it for this episode because it's very dense.

The book Chaos, Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the 60s by Tom O'Neill proved to be very controversial.

We agree with you, full body taste. It does raise a lot of fascinating questions. There are some holes in Helter Skelter. Tom O'Neill is writing in good faith. He spent decades researching these links and he had a lot of falling out situations with various publishers.

I read the book. I don't know where I fall on it, but I also find it interesting that the CIA made an official response to this. They published the thing.

I'd be like same with like Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn, you know some of the debates around that because of its You know problematic language and use of racial slurs

I'd be like same with like Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn, you know some of the debates around that because of its You know problematic language and use of racial slurs It is a work of fiction that is that was written in a specific time around a certain time period so it starts to be A little bit more about like is are we censoring history? Like are we editing history

Remember when the little Torrance kid is always going, rad rom?

That's not really a spoiler, is it? I hope not. Everybody knows that. You know, somebody might.

If that's a spoiler for The Shining, then they probably don't know what The Shining is to begin with.

Yeah, that is his imaginary friend. It's Tony. And in the book, I don't think it comes up in the movie, but he says he lives inside his mouth.

Remember when the little Torrance kid is always going, rad rom?

That's not really a spoiler, is it? I hope not. Everybody knows that.

If that's a spoiler for The Shining, then they probably don't know what The Shining is to begin with.

Yeah, that is his imaginary friend. It's Tony. And in the book, I don't think it comes up in the movie, but he says he lives inside his mouth.

And in the movie, he uses his finger to represent him talking. In the book, someone correct me on this. In the book, I believe it's implied that the imaginary friend is actually Danny Torrance from the future or something talking to himself. I'm not clear.

Highly recommend Freakonomics just if you want to learn interesting things about the world.

Highly recommend Freakonomics just if you want to learn interesting things about the world.

You bound the articles into volumes called the International Jew

You bound the articles into volumes called the International Jew

I would rather Mein Kampf not be legal reading in Germany.

I would rather Mein Kampf not be legal reading in Germany.

We could spoil Lord of the Rings, but to say the like she loves the spiders. Yeah. Like poor Frodo is just wrapped up in the stuff and it's like in any in Skyrim you'll be in, you know, dungeons and they'll just be this stuff just like covering the walls and then you realize that spiders web.

As Cape Lancet says in Lord of the Rings Men above all else desire power

And The Life of Pi which is a wonderful book and I was a fan of the film as well.

And that is a mission critical concern, because as little finger said in song of ice and fire game of Thrones chaos is a ladder.

I do like this picture we're painting though of assimilation to some extent a ton of innovation that's happening here but because of that assimilation there are these disparate groups. Eventually there's a civil war and some outside group comes in and wipes them out and where we're left history is left to pick up the pieces to figure out what the heck happened and who they actually were and we're still in the dark but then these freaking stones man.

I think so. We always talk about how the Song of Ice and Fire and all those George R. R. Martin books are heavily influenced and inspired by actual historical struggles and political maneuvers and all of that stuff.

I was reading this book by a guy named Matthew Desmond, author, author of Poverty, by America.

I was reading this book by a guy named Matthew Desmond, author, author of Poverty, by America.

I even feel a little bit like, you know, Leaves of Grass is this amazing poetic work by Walt Whitman, but it also gave birth to a lot of terrible free verse poetry.

I even feel a little bit like, you know, Leaves of Grass is this amazing poetic work by Walt Whitman, but it also gave birth to a lot of terrible free verse poetry.

Have you guys seen that movie or read the book Doctor Sleep?

It's sort of, I guess, a sequel to The Shining. I just love it. It's sort of, I guess, a sequel to The Shining. I think it's one of Stephen King's better latter-day books.

It's sort of, I guess, a sequel to The Shining.

It's like a combination of 1984 and Fahrenheit 451. It's called Fahrenheit 1984-51.

It's called Fahrenheit 1984-51.

Who also hates cursing Stephen King's Misery.

Who also hates cursing Stephen King's Misery.

It's also, is it based on Atlas Shrugged?

Is it tracks? Is it like Ayn Rand Atlas Shrugged? Is it laws of war or laws of power?

Have you guys heard of a novel and then a film called Perfume? Story yes murder.

It's real cool. Haven't read the book, but the film is great

It's about a young man who in like the what like france like in the What 1500 or something like that who has like a really insane sense of smell?

matt riddle recommended it to me and it was one of my favorite books. I read that year

Haven't read the book, but the film is great

It's real cool.

Did you guys read the discourse about American Psycho is awesome?

Apparently, the idea is that Bateman never actually kills most of those people. And they're just his like, there is dark, twisted fantasy.

He said mergers and acquisitions. But in his head, that's what he's thinking.

He's like a dark Walter Mitty.

The idea that this is all in his and the fact that he doesn't get caught and he sort of like completely melts down in such a public way and yet still doesn't get caught.

And, you know, also, apparently there's a real affection for Patrick Bateman, you know, an American Psycho by a lot of these kids in middle school, which is weird to me