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Real quick, I'm sure we've mentioned this book on the podcast before but Sapiens A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari is a fantastic read and deals with a lot of this stuff in depth in a very, I would say understandable and intelligent and pretty poetic way.

Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned sapiens Harari's doing some great work Not everybody loves him but I think I read every book I would just say a very good science communicator

Remember that book, Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari?

I have heard you talk about it.

I think Noel's read parts of it, too. I've not read it, but it sounds amazing every time we talk about it.

It's a great think piece book.

But Harari talks about this as well, this plant-human relationship. And he specifically says the agricultural revolution was history's biggest fraud. And that wheat and rice and potatoes domesticated Homo sapiens rather than the other way around.

I did read something really, really spooky recently from Yuval Noah Harari, who you guys know is is a wonderful writer for a wonderful writer of several books like Sapiens and a couple other great things.

Oh, and by the way, uh off air aside. Thanks to uh, the good mr Matt frederick, uh, we've confirmed the poem I was alluding to like like someone with brain addles brain fever is a real thing. It's called Grass it's by a guy named carl sandburg. It's excellent. It's short Read it and then just have it locked and loaded be ready to drop it

also shout out to the book sapiens by uh, Noah, yuval harari excellent read worth your time controversial, but would love to hear what you think

I did read something really, really spooky recently from Yuval Noah Harari, who you guys know is is a wonderful writer for a wonderful writer of several books like Sapiens and a couple other great things.

Oh, and by the way, uh off air aside. Thanks to uh, the good mr Matt frederick, uh, we've confirmed the poem I was alluding to... It's called Sapiens by uh, Noah, Yuval Harari. Excellent read, worth your time, controversial, but would love to hear what you think.

And then in 1968, in the same sort of social milieu or context, Paul Ehrlich publishes The Population Bomb.

It is polemical.

It is an alarmist work.

It is meant to shake you when you read it.

And he says it's common famine resource wars, the end of days.

He says there's gonna be mass starvation environmental catastrophe Civilization as you dear reader know it will plummet just like the Stephen King book The Stand and interestingly enough in the

original publication of the book old doc early predicts this happening in the 1970s later predictions later editions of the book would move that up a decade to the 1980s, but this

Okay so a lot of the fear of overpopulation can be traced back to Malthusian theory but a lot of the fear in the modern era can be traced back to a single book written in 1968 by a biologist from Stanford named Paul Ehrlich he wrote a book called The Population Bomb very very dystopian very pessimistic because he thought that he was talking about an existential crisis.

he said India is doomed you just have to deal with that he said 65 million Americans are going to starve to death and that by his one of his more specific predictions that by the year 2000 England will not exist.

Ehrlich was obviously incorrect but because the book came out in 1968 just a few years before a lot of these policies get western support we can tell you his beliefs the things he espoused in The Population Bomb got super popular especially with the privileged the hires up at institutions like the World Bank and foundations like Ford and Rockefeller and so they started putting their money and their expertise where their eyes were started like taking this book is inspiration and pushing toward making real world steps that they thought were the perfect steps to eliminate the threat of overpopulation.

a lot of the fear in the modern era can be traced back to a single book written in 1968 by a biologist from Stanford named Paul Ehrlich he wrote a book called The Population Bomb very very dystopian very pessimistic because he thought that he was talking about an existential crisis

he said India is doomed you just have to deal with that he said 65 million Americans are going to starve to death and that by his one of his more specific predictions that by the year 2000 England will not exist

Ehrlich was obviously incorrect but because the book came out in 1968 just a few years before a lot of these policies get western support we can tell you his beliefs the things he espoused in The Population Bomb got super popular especially with the privileged the hires up at institutions like the World Bank and foundations like Ford and Rockefeller and so they started putting their money and their expertise where their eyes were

He says there's gonna be mass starvation environmental catastrophe Civilization as you dear reader know it will plummet just like the Stephen King book The Stand

later editions of the book would move that up a decade to the 1980s

Okay so a lot of the fear of overpopulation can be traced back to Malthusian theory but a lot of the fear in the modern era can be traced back to a single book written in 1968 by a biologist from Stanford named Paul Ehrlich he wrote a book called The Population Bomb very very dystopian very pessimistic because he thought that he was talking about an existential crisis.

he said India is doomed you just have to deal with that he said 65 million Americans are going to starve to death and that by his one of his more specific predictions that by the year 2000 England will not exist.

Ehrlich was obviously incorrect but because the book came out in 1968 just a few years before a lot of these policies get western support we can tell you his beliefs the things he espoused in The Population Bomb got super popular especially with the privileged the hires up at institutions like the World Bank and foundations like Ford and Rockefeller and so they started putting their money and their expertise where their eyes were started like taking this book is inspiration and pushing toward making real world steps that they thought were the perfect steps to eliminate the threat of overpopulation and yeah of course there is there is such thing as overpopulation it's happening but there are other methods other ways to stem the tide I think is what we're saying here.

It's a drug in Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.

And now we are on the cusp of a new world that is both brave to quote Aldous Huxley and strange.

and of course Brave New World in 1984.

It was very much look what we can do. Not hey, should we just like it's like that line from Jurassic Park. Your scientists were spending so much time thinking whether they could. They never thought if they should end crime finds a way it does.

I read the Crichton book. And I think they still have the same problem in the film, which is that the the creatures resurrected by this company are meant to be sterile, incapable of reproducing.

Of course, they do end up reproducing because of the way in which they were brought back, right?

The dinosaurs were brought back by the little mosquito, right, or mosquitoes, right. They were in amber. There was some DNA or remnants of DNA left in there. And then they combined that with other animal DNA, amphibians, reptiles, birds, I believe, a couple other things.

Which is a cool concept. I love the idea. I just wonder if my goodness, is that something that could is that something that could really happen? And it's freaking me out.

It's DNA. It's all the building block and blueprint of what makes you. Yes, yes, bitch, perfect.

They did a great job making that into a movie, but there's a lot of cool science-y stuff in the book that they kind of gloss over in the movie.

And Ian Malcolm makes a really good point about how John Hammond says, you know, the whole thing, oh, just use this genetic engineering to make entertainment. It's such a simple idea.

And then Malcolm kind of thrashes it before because essentially the idea is like they make this thing, they figure out how to sell it, they patent it and they slap it on a lunchbox before they ever even think about the implications to the greater world at large of like, you know, bringing these ancient creatures back from the dead, essentially, when there's probably a reason that they were not on this earth anymore.

I read I read the the Crichton book. And I think they still have the same problem in the film, which is that the the creatures resurrected by this company are meant to be sterile, incapable of reproducing.

Of course, they do end up reproducing because of the way in which they were brought back, right?

The dinosaurs were brought back by the little mosquito, right, or mosquitoes, right. They were in amber. There was some DNA or remnants of DNA left in there. And then they combined that with other animal DNA, amphibians, reptiles, birds, I believe, a couple other things.

So they make they made a mixture of DNA and reconstructed the dinosaur based on bits of DNA that were remnant, basically, of dinosaurs in all those other species. Which is a cool concept. I love the idea.

I too love Jurassic Park. I like the franchise, you know, a gig it dinosaurs are cool.

They did a great job making that into a movie, but there's a lot of cool science-y stuff in the book that they kind of gloss over in the movie.

And Ian Malcolm makes a really good point about how John Hammond says, you know, the whole thing, oh, just use this genetic engineering to make entertainment. It's such a simple idea.

And then Malcolm kind of thrashes it before because essentially the idea is like they make this thing, they figure out how to sell it, they patent it and they slap it on a lunchbox before they ever even think about the implications to the greater world at large of like, you know, bringing these ancient creatures back from the dead, essentially, when there's probably a reason that they were not on this earth anymore.

I've been listening to the audiobook version of Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park lately that just finished it. It's really good.

They did a great job making that into a movie, but there's a lot of cool science-y stuff in the book that they kind of gloss over in the movie.

When you read this kind of stuff, you will see a narrative suggesting that all of the works of modern human society are broken remnants of a much more evolved and sophisticated civilization from the stars.

When you read Chariots of the Gods, which is a good read, it is very much not accurate. It is very, in my opinion, speculative if I'm being diplomatic.

This will be familiar to anybody who's read books like Chariot of the Gods by Eric von Daniken.

He publishes this first in 1969. It becomes an international bestseller and a deluge of similar books hit the market right after.

But if you saw one of these stones, your memory would flash back to maybe a BBC documentary to maybe Eric Von Daniken's chariot of the gods question mark, which is the title.

But the term itself didn't come into being until 1976 when Richard Dawkins wrote a book called The Selfish Gene.

And he wasn't originally talking about the internet. He was just trying to explain this process of replication, mutation, and evolution that occurs with ideas.

But it was not speaking of an internet meme like a the way that we imagine them now. It was any idea or concept that basically travels and replicates throughout culture.

But the term itself didn't come into being Until 1976 when Richard Dawkins Wrote a book called The Selfish Gene

But it was not speaking of an internet meme like a the way that we imagine them now. It was any idea or concept that basically travels and replicates throughout culture.

But the term itself didn't come into being Until 1976 when Richard Dawkins Wrote a book called The Selfish Gene

It was not speaking of an internet meme like the way that we imagine them now. It was any idea or concept that basically travels and replicates throughout culture.

it it mentions that and says that they couldn't find any evidence for it.

If you want to get the full story right now, I just don't want to take anything away from this author. There is a book titled The Corpse Wood Manor Murders in North Georgia. It's written by Amy Petula, P-E-T-U-L-L-A. You can look it up and buy it right now if you want to.

And part of that is because the a lot of the stuff I was reading, particularly the book, The Corpse Widd Manor Murders in North Georgia by Amy Patula, it it mentions that and says that they couldn't find any evidence for it.

If you want to get the full story right now, I just don't want to take anything away from this author. There is a book titled The Corpse Wood Manor Murders in North Georgia. It's written by Amy Petula, P-E-T-U-L-L-A.

a lot of the stuff I was reading, particularly the book, The Corpse Widd Manor Murders in North Georgia by Amy Patula, it it mentions that and says that they couldn't find any evidence for it.

If you want to get the full story right now, I just don't want to take anything away from this author. There is a book titled The Corpse Wood Manor Murders in North Georgia. It's written by Amy Petula, P-E-T-U-L-L-A. You can look it up and buy it right now if you want to.

The book and Chuck Jones movie adaptation of The Phantom Tollbooth and the book. There are tons of these maps of this crazy world of that of that book. And they talk about cartographers.

I bet that y'all experience or had experience with this to the book and Chuck Jones movie adaptation of The Phantom Tollbooth.

And the book, there are tons of these maps of this crazy world of that of that book. And they talk about cartographers.

I think that was the first place I ever learned what a cartographer was.

It's like something out of the Phantom Toolbooth.

The book and Chuck Jones movie adaptation of The Phantom Tollbooth and the book. There are tons of these maps of this crazy world of that of that book. And they talk about cartographers. I think that was the first place I ever learned what a cartographer was.

Well, it's just thinking about a flood. This conspiracy has flooded social media. And as more and more people make videos about this on YouTube and Instagram and TikTok, the thing that you're talking about, Ben, the expansion of the theory itself, it's the ones that I'm seeing now are saying it was a global civilization, covering everything, including Antarctica. And New Zealand and the Maori were part of it.

Oh yeah. Well, it's just thinking about a flood. This conspiracy has flooded social media. And as more and more people make videos about this on YouTube and Instagram and TikTok, the thing that you're talking about, Ben, the expansion of the theory itself, it's the ones that I'm seeing now are saying it was a global civilization, covering everything, including Antarctica. And New Zealand and the Maori were part of it.

The book and Chuck Jones movie adaptation of The Phantom Tollbooth and the book.

There are tons of these maps of this crazy world of that of that book. And they talk about cartographers. I think that was the first place I ever learned what a cartographer was.

Oh yeah. Well, it's just thinking about a flood. This conspiracy has flooded social media.

This seems like some sort of magical kingdom, you know, like something out of the Phantom Toolbooth.

I bet that y'all experience or had experience with this to the book and Chuck Jones movie adaptation of The Phantom Tollbooth.

And the book, there are tons of these maps of this crazy world of that of that book. And they talk about cartographers.

I think that was the first place I ever learned what a cartographer was.

It's like something out of the Phantom Toolbooth.

The book and Chuck Jones movie adaptation of The Phantom Tollbooth and the book. There are tons of these maps of this crazy world of that of that book. And they talk about cartographers. I think that was the first place I ever learned what a cartographer was.

Well, it's just thinking about a flood. This conspiracy has flooded social media.

Oh yeah. Well, it's just thinking about a flood. This conspiracy has flooded social media.

It's like we have Atlantis, but at home, you know?

It's the idea that you can watch closely over time how the system already works. And if you do that, you can find ways to help it work for you without breaking the whole crazy Rube Goldberg-esque mousetrap that is every ecosystem, right?

Ben, you mentioned the 1970s is when the term at least came around by a few Australian guys, Bill Mollison, David Holmgren and they've wrote a book. It's called Permaculture One.

It's the idea that you can watch closely over time how the system already works. And if you do that, you can find ways to help it work for you without breaking the whole crazy Rube Goldberg-esque mousetrap that is every ecosystem, right?

Without accidentally triggering a domino effect, you can say, this is what this animal does. This is how it affects these other things in the chain. And this is what this plant does and how it affects these other things. And here's where I fit in.

I can get in here as a human being, meet my needs and then also maybe, ideally, help the system overall. Right? I can play a part in this cycle instead of just saying, well, this has been going OK for millions of years, but I want to grow corn.

consciously designed landscapes which mimic the patterns and relationships found in nature while yielding an abundance of food, fiber and energy for provision of local needs.

It's the idea that you can watch closely over time how the system already works. And if you do that, you can find ways to help it work for you without breaking the whole crazy Rube Goldberg-esque mousetrap that is every ecosystem, right?

Without accidentally triggering a domino effect, you can say, this is what this animal does. This is how it affects these other things in the chain. And this is what this plant does and how it affects these other things. And here's where I fit in.

I can get in here as a human being, meet my needs and then also maybe, ideally, help the system overall. Right? I can play a part in this cycle instead of just saying, well, this has been going OK for millions of years, but I want to grow corn.

Ben, you mentioned the 1970s is when the term at least came around by a few Australian guys, Bill Mollison, David Holmgren and they've wrote a book. It's called Permaculture One.

Larceny Games was based on over 400 FBI files that I was the first one to obtain.

no one ever had gone after those files until I got them and I wrote this whole book based on those files which revealed literally hall of fame athletes accused by the FBI of either betting on their own sport or even betting on games in which they play which should be huge news

when the book was released ESPN Yahoo Sports Sports Illustrated HBO Sports 60 Minutes and a few others all contacted by publisher and wanted to copy the book to review it and they all got the book and not one of them did anything with the book whatsoever

I know that in your book Larsonie Games when you're talking about sort of the history of betting and gambling on sports and how at its heart it is a simple prospect of making a 50-50 bet where you're saying like I think it's going to be this one and I'm putting all my eggs in that basket and I'm either going to win or I'm going to lose.

Larceny Games was based on over 400 FBI files that I was the first one to obtain.

which revealed literally hall of fame athletes accused by the FBI of either betting on their own sport or even betting on games in which they play which should be huge news.

and when the book was released ESPN Yahoo Sports Sports Illustrated HBO Sports 60 Minutes and a few others all contacted by publisher and wanted to copy the book to review it and they all got the book and not one of them did anything with the book whatsoever.

I know that in your book Laronie Games when you're talking about sort of the history of betting and gambling on sports and how at its heart it is a simple prospect of making a 50-50 bet where you're saying like I think it's going to be this one and I'm putting all my eggs in that basket and I'm either going to win or I'm going to lose.

Larson Games was based on over 400 FBI files that I was the first one to obtain no one ever had gone after those files until I got them and I wrote this whole book based on those files which revealed literally hall of fame athletes accused by the FBI of either betting on their own sport or even betting on games in which they play which should be huge news.

and when the book was released ESPN Yahoo Sports Sports Illustrated HBO Sports 60 Minutes and a few others all contacted by publisher and wanted to copy the book to review it and they all got the book and not one of them did anything with the book whatsoever nobody reviewed it nobody said this is the worst book ever written nobody followed up on any of the information that I had uncovered nobody did anything within the sports media regarding this book except the New York Post

you can find some of it on the sportsonearth.com at least advice sports has it on their website as well

those are the three books I kind of wrote regarding the subject to sports and corruption

Yeah, Brian has written extensively on the subject. He has three books a season in the abyss, The Fix Is In and larceny games, all of which dive deep into the world of bookmaking organized crime where the money goes in these scenarios.

And I would like to point everybody to your website, thefixisin.net.

In the Fixisin, I believe it is, you've mentioned a couple of laws that come kind of close, right?

If you want to read more from Brian, you can check out his site at The Fix Is In dot net where you can see info on how to get a hold of his books. The Fix Is In larceny games a season in the abyss

Would you leave a multi-billion dollar business up to chance?

and then we mentioned throughout the interview are great reads and they're worth your time because this guy's a really talented writer as well.

the books that Noel mentioned in the previous episode and then we mentioned throughout the interview are great reads and they're worth your time because this guy's a really talented writer as well.

we also have a season in the abyss is that correct?

Yeah, those are the three books I kind of wrote regarding the subject to sports and corruption.

Yeah, Brian has written extensively on the subject. He has three books a season in the abyss, The Fix Is In and larceny games, all of which dive deep into the world of bookmaking organized crime where the money goes in these scenarios.

And I'll look at the history of corruption in sports and information about what inspired Brian to begin these investigations.

And if you want to read more from Brian, you can check out his site at The Fix Is In dot net where you can see info on how to get a hold of his books. The Fix Is In, larceny games, a season in the abyss not to be confused with the Slayer album seasons in the abyss.

Would you leave a multi-billion dollar business up to chance?

You mean beside my own work? Your own work as well we have larceny games The Fix Is In and we also have a season in the abyss is that correct?

Yeah, Brian has written extensively on the subject. He has three books a season in the abyss, The Fix Is In and Larceny Games, all of which dive deep into the world of bookmaking organized crime where the money goes in these scenarios.

And in your book Larceny Games when you're talking about sort of the history of betting and gambling on sports and how at its heart it is a simple prospect of making a 50-50 bet where you're saying like I think it's going to be this one and I'm putting all my eggs in that basket and I'm either going to win or I'm going to lose.

And in the Fixisin, I believe it is, you've mentioned a couple of laws that come kind of close, right? Like the Quiz Show Law or the Sports Bribary Act of 1964.

And if you want to read more from Brian, you can check out his site at The Fix Is In dot net where you can see info on how to get a hold of his books. The Fix Is In larceny games a season in the abyss.

Would you leave a multi-billion dollar business up to chance?

and we also have A Season in the Abyss is that correct?

those are the three books I kind of wrote regarding the subject to sports and corruption.

we also have A Season in the Abyss is that correct?

Yeah, those are the three books I kind of wrote regarding the subject to sports and corruption.

Yeah, Brian has written extensively on the subject. He has three books A Season in the Abyss, The fix is in and larceny games, all of which dive deep into the world of bookmaking organized crime where the money goes in these scenarios.

You mean beside my own work? Your own work as well we have larceny games the fix is in and we also have A Season in the Abyss is that correct?

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he references a book titled Underwater how our American dream of homeownership became a nightmare by Ryan December

progress residential which owned around 20,000 homes I believe that's in 2016 sought to provide quote an aspirational living experience for tenants who were typically about 38 years old and married with a child or two an annual income of around $88,000 less than stellar FICO credit scores around 665 generally and a hobbling 45,000 on average of debt on some sort yes exactly

Underwater, How Our American Dream of Home Ownership Became a Nightmare

Underwater, How Our American Dream of Home Ownership Became a Nightmare

how corporations are buying up homes robbing families of the American dream

he references a book titled Underwater how our American dream of homeownership became a nightmare by Ryan December

progress residential which owned around 20,000 homes I believe that's in 2016 sought to provide quote an aspirational living experience for tenants who were typically about 38 years old and married with a child or two an annual income of around $88,000 less than stellar FICO credit scores around 665 generally and a hobbling 45,000 on average of debt on some sort yes exactly

Underwater, How Our American Dream of Home Ownership Became a Nightmare

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the second one is Undue Risk colon secret state experiments on humans and that is by jonathan d moreno who was in those hearings exactly he was in those hearings

the second one is Undue Risk colon secret state experiments on humans and that is by jonathan d moreno who is in those hearings exactly he was in those hearings

the second one is Undue Risk colon secret state experiments on humans and that is by jonathan d moreno who was in those hearings exactly he was in those hearings

the second one is Undue Risk colon secret state experiments on humans and that is by jonathan d moreno who is in those hearings exactly

the second one is Undue Risk colon secret state experiments on humans and that is by jonathan d moreno who was in those hearings exactly he was in those hearings

This is the question our guest journalist and author David Dejean explores in his newest book Nazi Billionaires, The Dark History of Germany's Wealthiest Dynasties.

We've read through much of your book, Ben, I believe you've read the entire thing.

And we've watched interviews, we've talked about Nazis since we were making videos back in 2010.

So we can't thank you enough for doing the research, for writing this book.

You can find Nazi Billionaires, the dark history of Germany's wealthiest dynasties anywhere good books are sold.

It's a good book. It's called Nazi Billionaires.

This is the question our guest journalist and author David Dejean explores in his newest book Nazi Billionaires, The Dark History of Germany's Wealthiest Dynasties.

I think everything that I wanted in there ended up being in there. I didn't really feel that I had to cut any major darlings, which I feel very blessed about.

So now that the book is out in the world, you can find Nazi Billionaires, the dark history of Germany's wealthiest dynasties anywhere good books are sold.

And I think, OK, this is going to be one of those things where you don't read it straight through. I'm going to have to go back to some stuff.

We're just we're grateful this is in the world and we can't wait to see where this adventure takes you.

It's a good book. It's called Nazi Billionaires.

This is the question our guest journalist and author David Dejean explores in his newest book Nazi Billionaires, The Dark History of Germany's Wealthiest Dynasties.

I think everything that I wanted in there ended up being in there. I didn't really feel that I had to cut any major darlings, which I feel very blessed about.

So now that the book is out in the world, you can find Nazi Billionaires, the dark history of Germany's wealthiest dynasties anywhere good books are sold.

And I think, OK, this is going to be one of those things where you don't read it straight through. I'm going to have to go back to some stuff.

We're just we're grateful this is in the world and we can't wait to see where this adventure takes you.

And I just got to recommend a great conversation about this related to this concept is a book called Bear Head by Adrian Tchaikovsky, one of my new one of my new favorite sci fi writers British dude.

I just got to recommend a great conversation about this related to this concept is a book called Bear Head by Adrian Tchaikovsky, one of my new one of my new favorite sci fi writers British dude.

And I just got to recommend a great conversation about this related to this concept is a book called Bear Head by Adrian Tchaikovsky, one of my new one of my new favorite sci fi writers British dude.

That is the theory proposed. Shout out to our pal Josh Clark, who is out Egypt way now as you hear this.

Well, maybe back. But let me save you some time and say that the thesis of that is exactly as put in the earlier conversation. The concept being that people generally do things that are recreational beyond reproductive or survival needs entirely to distract themselves from mortality.

Well, it's not a great book. It's a very long book called The Denial of Death, which is all about fanatology, the study of death. And in that book, the author posits that everything people do is really just to avoid addressing the fact that up until now, everyone who was ever born has died at some point.

There's a great...Well, it's not a great book. It's a very long book called 'The Denial of Death', which is all about thanatology, the study of death. And in that book, the author posits that everything people do is really just to avoid addressing the fact that up until now, everyone who was ever born has died at some point.

It's called The Denial of Death. Mentioned it in past episodes.

You do not have to read it. The thesis is that every single piece of all human technology and all religion and all of what we call society, all all the things that the humans are doing is to distract themselves from the fact that one day they will no longer be around.

There's a great... Well, it's not a great book. It's a very long book called The Denial of Death, which is all about fanatology, the study of death. And in that book, the author posits that everything people do is really just to avoid addressing the fact that up until now, everyone who was ever born has died at some point.

I actually read the book. A Little Gavroche?

Lambda talks about liking the themes of justice in injustice of compassion and God redemption and self sacrifice for greater good

Lambda talks about liking the themes of justice in injustice of compassion and God redemption and self sacrifice for greater good, which, you know, sure, kind of sounds like something a little bit out of a cliff notes, but then it keeps going back to this idea of like a soul and then like kind of like religious themes.

I actually read the book.

I've actually never seen the show but I have listened to that soundtrack 8 billion times.

Lambda talks about liking the themes of justice in injustice of compassion and God redemption and self sacrifice for greater good, which, you know, sure, kind of sounds like something a little bit out of a cliff notes, but then it keeps going back to this idea of like a soul and then like kind of like religious themes.

where Lambda talks about liking the themes of justice in injustice of compassion and God redemption and self sacrifice for greater good

But when I choose to listen to the new stuff they don't want you to know episode or my current audiobook, I didn't think it'd be a notable choice. I was wrong. You mentioned in the podcast that mandate for leadership. The conservative promise was about as long as the unabridged version of "The Stand" and he guess what my current audiobook is, you guessed it, the uncut version of "The Stand".

It's a nearly 48 hour listen that came up when we were talking about Project 2025. Exactly. That's my buddy Harry was visiting and he has read the under, it's a little shorter. I think the Project 2025 is a little bit shorter than the, isn't it weird?

It's not as good as "The Stand" and I mean we know parts of the unabridged stamp probably should have been abridged but yeah, no, that's wild

Are you familiar with The Stand?

OK, so in the adaptation of The Stand in the novel itself, which is which is better than the adaptation. No knock on the adaptation. But in the novel, The Stand, there is a character called the Garbage Man.

Oh, Trash Can Man. That's it. That's his name.

And Trash Can Man, without spoiling the story. And without just being wonderful to say. Yes. Trash Can Man has a weird fascination with blowing things up.

And there's a little bit of Trash Can Man and Jack Parsons or Parsons and Trash Can Man. You know what I mean?

He says there's gonna be mass starvation environmental catastrophe Civilization as you dear reader know it will plummet just like the Stephen King book The Stand and interestingly enough in the

He says there's gonna be mass starvation environmental catastrophe Civilization as you dear reader know it will plummet just like the Stephen King book The Stand

It comes from a fiction novel, right? It's not like a super secret, real Soviet program. But in this novel, a son of a political dynasty is brainwashed into becoming an assassin for the communes.

This is not the same as, say, a sleeper agent, where I think a lot of people kind of misconstrue those concepts where someone is deployed as like a basic civilian and then whenever they're given a particular order or code word or whatever, they are activated and then they carry out these instructions. This is much deeper. This is someone who is given a code word that all of a sudden switches their brain and makes them into a killing automaton of sorts, right?

Well, I see but okay, let's just let's game it out for a second. Sure. Let's imagine that Sirhan Sirhan, the man who you know killed Robert Kennedy, um, let's just say while he's there at that event, he this stuff is blown into his face and he has given a gun and he is told you need to kill Robert Kennedy, you have to kill Robert Kennedy. Yeah, and because I see where you're going, because he doesn't have a memory, yeah of doing this, he comes to, however um, that's I would say that's like a that's like a microwave Manchurian Candidate, right?

Micro Manchurian because again of that time window, right? You could um, in The Manchurian Candidate story in the fiction, right? The idea is that you could have this effect buried for years and then trigger it, but what you're describing now, you pointed out dude, that does sound possible, right?

The term itself was popularized or even coined by Richard Condon in his book from 1959 called Manchurian candidate or The Manchurian Candidate.

The definition really is an assassin who is kind of an unwitting assassin who is unaware that they are an assassin. Either with through brainwashing or some other technique. This person is convinced by a third party to murder someone else.

And they're usually activated somehow like with a woman with a polka dot address. When you see this woman, you will need you will go and kill your target.

The term itself was popularized or even coined by Richard Condon in his book from 1959 called Manchurian candidate or The Manchurian Candidate.

The definition really is an assassin who is kind of an unwitting assassin who is unaware that they are an assassin. Either with through brainwashing or some other technique. This person is convinced by a third party to murder someone else.

And they're usually activated somehow like with a woman with a polka dot address. When you see this woman, you will need you will go and kill your target.

So Sirhan has actually gone into this Manchurian candidate territory, I guess you would call it because as we said, he was sentenced to life in prison. He did not receive the death penalty and he has continued his the appeals process. He claims he has no recollection of the murder whatsoever.

In an appeal in 2011, his lawyers repeated this previous assertion and they had reports from people they said were experts who said that Sirhan Sirhan was programmed through hypnosis to fire shots as a diversion for the real killer.

The term itself was popularized or even coined by Richard Condon in his book from 1959 called Manchurian candidate or The Manchurian Candidate.

The definition really is an assassin who is kind of an unwitting assassin who is unaware that they are an assassin. Either with through brainwashing or some other technique. This person is convinced by a third party to murder someone else.