Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

My primary fan fiction time was when Order of the Phoenix had already kind of came out, but we were waiting for Half-Blood Prince.

So basically you had your, there's a version of Harry Potter and Order of the Phoenix with you. It's you.

So it's Harry, Ron, Hermione, and Elyse.

My primary fan fiction time was when Order of the Phoenix had already kind of came out, but we were waiting for half blood prints.

So basically you had your, there's a version of Harry Potter and Order of the Phoenix with you. It's you. So it's Harry, Ron Hermione and Elyse.

My biggest issue with Cursed Child, I've been saying Cursed and not Cursed. I don't know if that's correct.

It's definitely all of us trying to be a little British.

It's like never in your life had you ever said Cursed until Harry Potter and the Cursed Child.

But it's like hyper accelerated. Yeah. And the characters are all wrong.

I don't think it's written very well, is like all of a sudden they're like 50 years old.

And so we have Harry Potter and the Curse of Child, which we all have some opinions.

my biggest issue with Cursed Child, I've been saying Cursed and not Cursed. I don't know if that's correct. It's definitely all of us trying to be a little British.

I don't think it's written very well, is like all of a sudden they're like 50 years old.

I don't think that curse child is what people want I don't think like actually I think the story of Harry was done yeah at the end of the seventh book and it kind of like ruins it to have like these people and things coming back like you know another potential spoiler or whatever but there's Voldemort stuff in there and I'm like no Voldemort's done he killed the Pete like he sacrificed himself and died and came back to fucking life and then Voldemort like never killed a snake and Voldemort's done

It's a very like it's very winky because now it's like you're going back to all these moments that people remember yeah yes I mean it reads kind of like a fan fiction to be honest yeah like that it's like these characters but they're not exactly right and they're like doing they're doing things that I don't know I think I don't I just don't think that curse child is what people want

Everyone loves The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, it's a fantastic book.

What a beautiful piece of modern magic realist storytelling.

But as a whole he does not write women well.

They are always objects of desire and sexual intercourse.

They are never characters with complex emotions.

Everyone loves The Wind Up Bird Chronicle, it's a fantastic book. What a beautiful piece of modern magic realist storytelling. But as a whole he does not write women well. They are always objects of desire and sexual intercourse. They are not characters with depth. They are never characters with complex emotions.

I hate, or I don't know if I hate it.

I hated cats.

Cats traumatize me as a child.

Like whenever- Tyler Coates loves cats.

The part where they all speak in synchrony, like, synced in poem, I can't do it.

It's based on poetry by T.S. Elliot, like adults. He wrote this and then other adults were like, 'this is good content'. What? Let's make a musical about it with other adults for the enjoyment of adults.

And then my mother surprised me with tickets to the national tour in Richmond and sat in the orchestra. I remember when the lights went down and like we're on the aisle. So like the cats come out and like they turn on their eyes and get the shit out of me and they were just roaming around and then they go up on stage and then I could only stare at their crotches.

Because it's all like because it's, you know, the majesty of watching performance like big performance. It's no Disney on ice. It's like for real. It's for real. It's dancing with their whole body with their whole body and the bodies that I could not stop staring.

So once a year in London, all the cats gather for the gelical ball. Yes, I know about this. There's like you see like there's like a couple of like cat burglars, Mongo Jerry and Ripple teaser. You have like a crazy like Auntie like Jenny and he dots who's like takes kittens under her wing and like all these rum tum tugger who's like horny and weird about it. I played him in a sketch.

And then you have Grisabella, who was like old bitch. Old bitch, but like on her last life. And she is the glamour cat and everyone hates her because she used to think her shit didn't stink, but then she got old and everyone's like, yeah, bitch. Yes, what? The same litter box as the rest of us.

In the category of best movie. We did not see The nominees are Mary queen of scotts Hillbilly Elegy guardians of the galaxy volume 2 guardians of the galaxy volume 3 And babylon

So it's not just that it's like also that we need to be seen. Yeah. I think that came out came about too. And I think that's so interesting what you said and I totally agree. And I think it also came about like as we were able to get more things like like when you were able to just get whatever music you want like the fact that we can just play any song we want to listen to right now. Like like you can get anything like tangible. So then it becomes like, well what are the intangible things that we can't get? I want those now. I have everything else. So it becomes this thing of like, what do you think about me? Like everyone's just very self centered. And so this is like a very kind of heady thing. But like I agree that it's just moving forward from like all these tangible things that we're satisfied on now because we're so kind of saturated with all of it. Now we're like, what else can I get that I need? Oh, I need affirmation. I need love. I need respect. I need this. So I need to get it from you at whatever means necessary. It doesn't mean it doesn't matter if I'm humiliated in the process. Exactly. We'll hang out with you if you suck our dicks. Exactly. That's what it is. Exactly. That is so sad. Wow. That's really tragic. I bet you guys had great dicks though. I've always had a large dick.

I fell in love with her in Wild okay.

I cried my fucking eyes out in the Fault in Our Stars the book and the movie.

Spoiler alert in Wild.

Reese Witherspoon has just come into the hospital bed and see that her eyes were taken out.

Um okay the last book I read was The War of Art.

Which is the one you gave me, loved it.

Opened up the doors.

It's great right?

I'm surprised you didn't read it before and I had sworn you'd read it and then I was like when I was like have you read The War of Art and you were like no I was like oh but then you must.

There's this other book just called Camp that is by this British author, I'm blanking on his name.

His take on it is, it's anti what Susan Sontag said about it, which is the interface of high-low culture. His take on it is that camp is actually a state of mind. It is actually a psychology of people testing the limit of society.

You've seen it on The Good Place.

I'm not The Good Place.

I love Chris Bell.

I genuinely think that she's such a star.

I love her since...

There's this book that I'm reading now, it's very I'm recommending it to everyone. I'm telling everyone It's very New Age language, but it's the writer Martha Beck is very self-aware. She's very but she's got solid jokes Solid ha ha's she she can she can fit into any room Solid ha ha's but she um She has this D D age in front who instead of kicking down doors and a drug raid and holding up a gun We'll just find a way to sneak and we'll find a way to enter the space Uh-huh, and just walk in and just calmly sit down in front of the people the people in there yeah, and he'll just be like and Emma's heard this and Matt's heard this but and and then the people are just like confused but Not fully still they're startled but not like alarmed Because normally they'd run away if it was like if a gun was being held to their you know I'd like pointed in the direction but they're just like startled and they're confused like who is this person and Then after like a moment this agent just is like come with me and everyone's like, okay The power that and then and then he arrests the international implications All of it so, you know, I'm sure there's a great deal of privilege to this, you know, I method But like yeah that rules like to be able to get to the place where I'm like You know what? I'm going and I don't care what anyone else does or says that is tough

I'm suspecting a lot of things because I'm very suspicious in my sort of state of being right now after watching such shows as the undoing and...

I actually think it's the first show in history that they had the show and then they wrote the book that the show was based on and like implanted it.

But I I don't actually even believe that that would be too similar right to Big Little Lies This can't also be based on a book then right I google it I want to tweet something about how this show is spiritually based on a book but actually I think that it was based on They just wrote that book in Oh Like after the fact they were like, no, let's write this book. Let's let's fudge the number So it says 2014 and we'll say it was based on a book.

So you think the show is sort of so? Suspicion heavy that you think it sort of now covers the show itself and its creation It's a section mission is spilling out of the show and I think it's life imitating art in this way.

It's already too on the nose okay already for it to be HBO for it to be Nicole Kidman for it to be the hair for it to be like And to be for it to be a school and for it to be a rich father of the woman and for it to be a doctor and for it to be like all these things already like okay I is a parody sketch on Saturday Night Live It's so on the nose and then for to be based on a book it's like too much.

In watching Other People yesterday... what it moved me so much about it is you really do get across this like kind of experience of like a gay guy kind of coming into his own who's like trying to figure out how to be gay. Do you know what I mean?

Like that's like a big, like there's just so much there with like him trying to figure out how to fit into this like gay world and also with the character of David too obviously like kind of like being like about grinder and about OK Cupid but you get that that comes from a place of like being afraid of it.

But I think a lot of people will feel seen by the show too.

Yeah, that's good.

Yeah, I hope so. I love it so much.

Like I haven't read Moby Dick like, you know what I mean? Like I need to get it together. I just can't anymore.

It's like one moment we can behave racistly and another moment we can behave anti-racist. We have to redistribute the ratio so that it is overwhelmingly overwhelmingly where we're wearing the anti-racism identity in our lives more often than we are the racist one.

It's as if I had the experience myself. Yes. I mean, just the true grew of the Camus. Do you know what I'm saying?

You don't have to know any of my shit. You don't have to know anything about South Florida. You don't have to know anything about the Caribbean or Latin America or anything like that... you have to read the fucking Hobbit.