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We made shirts that I am a gorilla in reference to the book Ishmael which is narrated by a gorilla and a bunch of leftists started claiming that our shirts were racist and we were like I think you're being racist when you say that.

They're the party of we have degrowth. They want people to go back to living in the in the in the streams, in the rivers, in the caves. They want you to live in the pod and eat the bugs. Elon Musk is a reason why he's talking to Donald Trump. Donald Trump wants to unleash energy, wants human expansion. Human expansion is fantastic so long as it's technologically moving forward.

And so we made the meme like we haven't really it's been a long time, but we had the shirts. And it's the gorilla going, I am a gorilla and then people were calling us racist for having a shirt that says I am a gorilla and I was like, I was like my dude. It is an Ishmael reference. We are making a reference to global policy not race. If you think that's racist, what are you thinking about people? Take it up with Daniel Quinn, but yo, yo, I don't know if y'all remember this some of the prints that were sold. Yo, I think this is intentional. Some of the prints that were made of it had the gorilla wearing white gloves with a blackened face.

It's about being tough or whatever. There's the gorilla emojis and there were some people receiving shirts where I'm like, how do you accidentally make the hands look like white gloves?

I read it in like 2007 and I was buying into all of it. Now the way Alex is like, the books telling you like the girls like humans are bad. I'm a bad. I'm a gorilla kill myself. Like he's like, it's about like you're so bad being a human like what you've done to the earth. You're a taker. There are takers and there are levers and we've out the takers have outbalanced the levers and we need more levers on Earth.

I get that concept, you know, but it's it's interesting to think about it that I was manipulated by by this book.

There's this interesting theory from this book "Ishmael" that I got where...

If you've if you've read the book "Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus" Jongrey talks about the fact that women like men go to lunch to solve a problem like you go to talk about something and go to lunch to just chat you gather information and it's been like like and everywhere is a tell their story right like the thing there's a reason that my college group of girlfriends the first night of our weekend together after like you know a year or someone's apart like we opened with a slides of presentation on the updates in everyone's life and i told this to a male friend and he was like this isn't sane what are you doing but like i genuinely want to know where is the video game thing resembles the problem solving like so we have come to play the game and then to leave so uh uh on top of the hang out your buddies thing one day you picked up your child for the last time and you didn't know it yeah exactly

If you've, if you've read the book Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus, John Gray talks about the fact that women, like, men go to lunch to solve a problem, like you go to talk about something and go to lunch to just chat. You gather information.

So you ever heard of the book, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus?

So one of my favorite points in that book was the psychologist John Gray points out that when men go to lunch, they're typically going to talk about a specific problem.

They're like, we have a, there is a purpose to it, right? They're meeting, it's something, there's something to do. Women go and they just sort of gather a lot of information, right?

Scientologists don't walk up to people and then say here's the book on Scientology they come to you with Dianetics they ask if you want to take a test yes they say do you want to take a test and ask you questions and they say buy this book called Dianetics if you then go through these steps eventually you'll find yourself more so in Scientology that's what wokeness is

I bought Dynetics.

He gave me the book

Don't you think you should know what the book says before you criticize it?

The Church of Scientology will get credit cards and these people's name and buy books with it.

And he asked me if I knew anything about dionetics because that I think that's what it says.

And I actually got maybe like 50 pages in and then laughed and then put it down.

So I actually bought dionetics.

And he asked me if I knew anything about dionetics because that I think that's what it says. Like, or Scientology.

And then he's like, hey, how's it going? He talks to me. And he asked me if I knew anything about dionetics because that I think that's what it says. Like, or Scientology.

And I was like, no. And then there's like, do you know anything about Scientology? And I was like, just what I've seen from the TV. I was like, don't you guys believe like aliens and like volcanoes? And he goes, that's what the cartoon says.

So I actually bought dionetics. Now I'm completely skeptical. I think it was like 20 bucks.

Well I can't say that every single thing I did was not related to politics because I concentrated on one philosophic issue and maybe made a little impression and that was what sound money is all about and talking about all of the Fed prior to 1976 when I first went to Washington the Federal Reserve was never talked about and they thought boy people would come up to me and what do you what are you talking about them for you know that'd be one of so I think that but I really do believe that the politicians just reflect a prevailing attitude of the opinions of the people very very important.

He wrote The Creature from Jekyll Island.

he's the one who wrote creature from Jekyll Island

definitely recommend it and we should try to get him on the podcast

Creature from Jekyll Island great book definitely recommend it

the border right after rule of law, in my book The Agenda, the border is the next thing

Yeah. And the author of the new book, The Agenda, what Trump should do in his first 100 days in office.

I actually didn't know about Project 2025 when I wrote this book.

And I visualized that moment and immediately I realized the media narrative was going to shift as soon as he took the oath of office.

And so I've got over 200 executive orders, policies, actions that he can take within the constitutional limits.

And it's a positive vision. It's basically a formula, I think, for restoring America to what it ought to be.

the border right after rule of law, in my book The Agenda, the border is the next thing

I am the senior editor at Large at Breitbart News. Yeah. And the author of the new book, The Agenda, what Trump should do in his first 100 days in office.

I actually didn't know about Project 2025 when I wrote this book.

I was just angry about Trump being convicted in Manhattan and I thought instead of being angry, let me do something productive.

So I thought I had to January 20th and thought, what does it feel like? What does it look like when Donald Trump takes the oath of office?

And I was like, what can he do? What can he offer people to get them over this obsession with the court cases and the polls and the pundits and Kamala Harris's CNN interview and just talk to people about what you're going to do and what you can deliver.

In fact, we have a book right here. Look, it's just because we have all these things is lying around. Hey, shout out to Stephen Marsh who gets cited on this show so often despite the fact we agree on a lot of things. He's researched and written about civil war. He wrote a book with Andrew Yang called The Last Election. I think he's wrong, though. This isn't The Last Election.

Oh, you think so? You think we already saw the last legitimate election?

Steven Marsh I reference this guy a lot he wrote a book I think you wrote with Andrian called The Last Election and I think they're making the argument that 2024 could be The Last Election but if your argument the argument that he's made on all these issues would actually indicate that 2020 was The Last Election however based on the perspective of Trump supporters 2016 was The Last Election full stop Democrats think Russia interfered to get Trump elected which means 2012 was the last real election we ever had

And we've also had Stephen Marsh on a couple of times who's written two books. What was the first one called? The Next Civil War or something. But he had one called The Last Election.

And we agree on a lot of the issues, but I think he's dramatically he's substantially ill-informed about what's going on publicly.

He says the right is doing these things. The right will foment civil war.

He had one called The Last Election.

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No, that's Dune.

Yeah, but like even in the movie, the bugs are like the bad guys. They launched it. They, they, they attacked earth. Yeah. It's very Buenos Aires.

Well, when Frank Herbert had this great quote in Dune, he goes, when I'm weaker than you, I ask for freedom because that is according to your principles. And when I'm stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.

Yeah, that's from dune. Yes. Well, they did the episode where they wanted was at tom brady's feces Because if you got his fecal bacteria would make you yeah, it would make you strong and fit fecal implants They do that that's a whole like scientific path

Harry Potter is a libertarian story. What the entire fifth book is about is keeping the government out of schooling. Dumbledore has a militia, the government is incompetent throughout the books. That's true, fair enough.

I mean in harry potter the people who were Encouraging just purebloods were the bad guys and it seems like in a couple years. We've turned away from this

One of them is going to write the next harry potter, right?

Yeah, now that now you have like books like White Fragility and stuff like that with the whole intersectional stuff taking taking precedence in the humanities and essentially the overall left.

There ain't nobody that's more white supremacist than uh that woman that wrote White Fragility.

You remember what Robin DiAngelo wrote right about everyone is racist everything she said about black people and also in any given situation It's not a question of whether racism occurred. It's how did racism manifest itself?

I just think we've got to get back to the basics and restore America to look like The Handmaid's Tale.

I always thought those robes were really cool in the TV show. They look kind of glamorous to me.

You know, he's going to bring in Handmaid's Tale dystopia and all this kind of stuff.

because they have skull face tattoos we know who the criminals are and then it turns out once you crack down on the criminal element your country improves

Kash Patel actually talks about this in his book Government Gangsters, right? We we have to be able to get to the root of it Most of these people involved in these federal agencies. They think that it's there to To support themselves and their own egos and not serving the American public and the FBI

Just coming off the heels of my book launch. Yes selfish plug, Government Gangsters, The Biden administration spent 10 months trying to block its release. Let's go to federal court and sue to get it out. Wow

You gotta understand what's in there. Donald Trump launched on Truth Social a couple weeks ago. Already a best seller. He calls it the roadmap and blueprint for 2024. Basically, it's how you destroy the deep state and I name every government gangster ever encountered by name and title. And I also put the government receipts in there.

The Biden administration came back and said national security secrets can't go to print. They redacted less than wow, zero five percent of my book at the end of the day, zero five point zero five.

Help me crush the deep state right on. Yeah, everybody buy it. We'll get it to the top. It's on Amazon, it's on Amazon number one Amazon, Target, all that stuff. Yeah, really great. Thanks for hanging out man.

Government Gangsters, and it's not just in federal court, it's in state court, and what Tim said was they flipped. That's the key for me is for okay, what did they flip on? But what they're doing is they're going out to the New York Times and saying, well, we got Trump's three top lawyers, and as a guy from Trump world, I'm telling you these people barely did anything for the boss. And he came out and announced that Sidney Powell wasn't even his attorney.

Thank you so much for allowing me a shameless plug for my book, Government Gangsters.

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The reason that I took so much time to write this book was to answer these questions if Trump wins again or anyone wins again, how do we get it right?

And you didn't pay me to do that.

He wrote Animal Farm. I see Animal Farm leading up to this 1984 situation where they say the final and most important command from the government was to ignore the truth of your eyes and ears. Some quote like that, like just ignore what's right in front of you.

Animal Farm, right?

Animal Farm, right?

Because in Animal Farm, it's like the farm is the model.

I was just being silly.

So my question is, in Orwell's Animal Farm, who do the farmers represent? What's the analogy we're supposed to be drawing?

So you think like the pigs that take over or also the original farmers?

In Animal Farm, I have no idea. It depends on what the Orwell intended with the writing of the book, I guess. I don't know.

But I don't think that's true. I think they're interpreted as different countries.

I think we're dealing with a Nietzschean God is dead situation.

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I actually really like the idea of a civil service corps going back to Starship Troopers, you know, everybody memes on the movie, but the book is serious.

when service guarantees citizenship in Starship Troopers it could be like working at a library or something or it could be any kind of could be cleaning up garbage it could be cleaning up parks it'd be planting flowers so it's not all about the military that's why it worked hypothetically why it works

There's the Starship Troopers thing, service guarantees citizenship, you familiar with that?

So it's a book, it's a movie and the idea is that in order to vote, you have to provide some service to the community.

So you're a civilian or a citizen and citizens get to vote. Civilians have all rights but don't vote. So then if you wanna gain the right to vote, you either like join the military or you do community service, you have to do some kind of service. To contribute.

Phil's point about like music like I became a libertarian reading the liner notes on a rush album when I was 13 and you talked to so many libertarians that have some sort of story about Neil Peir turning them on to the ideas of Ayn Rand so I think I think if it's good music and it's based on some sort of philosophy that's great but I think I think culture is better than telling people to read the books I read because that's a non-starter that's why we're doing so much comedy right now because you can say things when you're doing a comedy skit that that we can't say here that would in any way attract people who think they're socialists right yeah they just think we're making fun of them

It's basically someone read Atlas Shrugged and then was like, how can I make a video game like this? And so the main villain like the final boss is literally Atlas.

The best book I read in there was uh maybe like Atlas Shrugged okay.

So maybe they're pulling an Ozymandias from Watchmen.

He simulates an alien invasion killing tens of millions of people to end the Cold War.

So he intentionally then he plays the villain. But for the purpose of forcing, you know, so they're it's something good they're doing for us there.

He simulates an alien invasion because the U.S. and Soviet Union are on the verge of nuclear annihilation.

And so by having an alien attack the world, it forces the U.S. and Soviet Union to unite against a common enemy.

It's that scene in Watchmen where you guys have ever seen Watchmen? Yeah. Yeah.

It's when the comedian punches that woman in the face and tries to rape her. Like take away the physical strength. And that's like Joe Biden behind closed doors.

Ozymandias is the villain in the Watchmen graphic novel who stages an alien invasion to force the Cold War nations to unite against a common enemy.

I'm not worried about Newsom. First of all, he looks like he looks like the dude from American Psycho.

Famous monsters and American Psycho were huge influences for my band Screaming Torso from oh six to oh eight.

American Psycho on repeat for years.

My favorite monsters in American Psycho were huge influences for my band Screaming Torso from 06 to 08, please look us up on SoundCloud, our album is called "There Will Be Torso", thank you Michael.

Yeah, Misfits were formed 1977 Lodi, New Jersey, by Glenn Danzig, Jerry Only. They broke up in 81, I think something like that, and then they really gained popularity from Metallica, you know Cliff Burton the bass player always had the, this the skull on and like Rob Zombie and so when I got into the band it was, there was a lot more legend behind the band than than anything else, they only had really only had played a handful of shows and, and so everything was sort of word of mouth.

I bought American Psycho the day it dropped and I still jam it, jam to it this day.

Mr. Graves, you're an incredible singer, started listening as a teen and had American Psycho on repeat for years, my four-year-old son loves it too.

Saul Linsky who some say is a communist I don't think he was but I read his rules for radicals he says pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it organizations, institutions are made up of individuals the strongest exposs are always about an individual not a amorphous blob of an institution

Well, yeah. I would prefer it if they would stop. But it's right out of rules for radicals though, right? Accuses your opponent of what you're doing. They accuse us of being genocidal for saying, don't sterilize kids. And people believe it. It's ridiculous.

The rules for radicals. Is that rules for radicals?

I've been reading The Prince by McNovelly again and it he has an entire chapter dedicated to that and how that is how a Nate one of the main reasons a nation will fall in a print will lose his power by outsourcing his military

It's a timeless book. I remember reading that in like maybe freshman year of college

Yeah, and being like it's kind of tough read but there is a wisdom to this that I should probably pay attention to like that 148 laws of power and How to win friends

There's a line and I'm going to paraphrase it from Machiavelli's The Prince, 500 years old but everybody remembers it where he says that if a prince must commit atrocities he should commit them early.

I've been messing it up, but paraphrasing it, the actual quote is this. Cruelties are well used if it is permitted to speak well of evil that are carried out in a single stroke, done out of necessity to protect oneself and then are not continued, but are instead converted into the greatest possible benefit for the subjects.