The Joe Rogan Experience

who wrote One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?

Ken Kesey.

Ken Kesey apparently was in one of these LSD experiments and he's just one of many great artists who accidentally got liberated mentally by the fucking CIA.

You know what I mean?

They were just like, we want to use this to interrogate people.

he had moved up to La Honda on the success of his first book one flew over the cookers nest and it just written another beautiful book

My book American Buffalo, I remember I had to lose 100 pages, which was hard to do.

He has a great book, too. I haven't seen it yet. It's really interesting.

I think his book's called American Buffalo, but it's really good.

the book of revelations is kooky. You know, they really believe that Jesus is going to return on a white horse.

the Book of Revelations is weird.

I still think his greatest novel was the "Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test", which is sort of this history of the LSD counterculture movement, starts at Stanford, moves to Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco.

and Thompson's like all right they're not eating each other skulls like we can hang out a little bit so they hung out and it was interesting how acid pacified the Angels instead of made them violent and that's what acid you know of course that's what acid is but they spent the night hanging out there Thompson was writing so he's like I'm not gonna do drugs he's like I'll have a few drinks he's taking notes for his his book

and so this is why we talk about truth later in life Thompson some biographies might have said that he actually recorded the event he didn't he went back and he took these long audio notes right of like shadow and light and the horror that he saw no that's what I'm saying yeah he took the audio notes the recordings he made the recordings yes yes and then he gave those to Tom Wolf and Tom Wolf that's what I'm saying exactly yeah but some people have said that he put the tape recorder in the room no no that's not what I meant I mean he gave him the recordings and I was really they're beautiful I mean like they're terrifying but it's about like violence and shadow and light and horror you know it's a horrific it's a horrific scene that this Thompson's brilliance at that age he could in an audio note get the fucking images and details that he needs to express the nature of that instant and so Tom Wolf used those to create it himself but then Thompson recreated it too or wrote about it in Hell's Angels yeah but in a more distant way than Wolf did which is crazy because he was actually there it's fucking crazy dude

Well it also makes sense that if you scaled intelligent life up infinitely, you're going to reach a point where you have God-like powers.

This being or collection of beings is hive mind, whatever it is.

It could essentially, if given 100 million years, harness the very power of the universe itself or maybe even create the universe.

And create up the universe as you go. Which is the ultimate mind blower that intelligent life is the reason why this thing exists then it creates this thing.

We're creating universes right now as human beings on this planet.

Sims, the Sims are gonna get AI now. They're gonna be asking questions. They're gonna be creating their own software within the software and trying to build their own copy of a universe.

We're not even close to base reality. We're literally living in a stacked reality.

We're just one reality out of who knows, Googles of actual realities that exist.

Oh, I believe so. I just wrote a book about it.

That book is about the Fractal Holographic Universe and I believe that we're living in a simulation.

This is the Emerald Tabits, The Epic of Humanity and My Financial Book. Woke doesn't mean broke. Financial literacy book, not the political woke either, but the real woke.

And then you just go oh boy. I know. It's hard to take yourself too seriously.

It's listen, it's hard because I think individuality, I think individuality is an illusion.

We appear to be separate in individuals but energetically we're really all the same entity, that same consciousness experiencing itself differently subjectively through different bodies.

Yes, different life experiences, different genetics, different places in the world.

Correct. Yeah, but we're all the same thing.

And that's the hardest thing for people to get in their head.

Anyone that you run into is you living another life.

Right.

We're all the concept of me.

When you think about it everyone has that same feeling of me, everyone has me inside of them.

Just me with less information, more information, better brain, better this, better that, shittier this, shittier that.

And there's an infinite number of examples of it and then it probably exists everywhere in the cosmos and it's probably what facilitates change and growth is that there is this imbalance and that there is this constant struggle amongst human beings.

That's probably what makes us constantly try to improve.

And then it probably exists everywhere in the cosmos and it's probably what facilitates change and growth is that there is this imbalance and that there is this constant struggle amongst human beings.

I tried reading this book to holographic universe but I didn't get into it.

Maybe I should read it.

it wasn't until he had his breakthrough with Hell's Angels that he could develop the style that we identify with today

how does angel sold five hundred thousand paperback copies that is almost impossible to imagine today five hundred thousand paperback copies of a literary book

and he wrote all these beautiful letters began to arrive at 319 par nassas we lived at um at the hot atop of the hate ashberry and i'm san francisco

when he wrote Hell's Angels he hadn't really totally formulated that sort of gonzo style of journalism but he did have a little bit of fiction mixed in with that

those books, fucking Hell's Angels and, you know, Fear and Loathing is some of the best writing.

Carrie and Cujo are my favorite Stephen King books.

Like Stephen King used to get obliterated so that he could get to that spot. He wrote Cujo.

He didn't even remember it. He didn't remember any of it. No. He would just drink like cases of beer and do lines of Coke and write this fucking insane fiction.

Graham Hancock wrote that book.

He was saying that at one point in time they think as much as 20 million people were living in the Amazon.

And they had these really big established cities.

The first European explorers when they came to the Amazon, they were like, oh my god, this is incredible.

They died like just like a haunted curse.

It can't find his deepened evidence about 10,000 years ago seems to be the most agreed upon 10,000 potential for spoken length.

That's how they don't might only have evidence that goes back to far.

Playing off the Rail the google uh Playing off the Rail there's a guy who was a journalist what year do you think it was what David McCumber yes David McCumber employed Hunter for a while when David was um I forget what publication he was working for but there's some footage of them community communicated together and you know trying to get Hunter was in San Francisco yeah and Hunters just out of his fucking mind I mean and it was younger you mean he wasn't even that old but he was just wrecked he just couldn't communicate he couldn't talk

He was in a book called Playing off the Rail. It's a great book by this guy David McCumber who was Hunter S. Thompson's editor.

I think in the book, they wrote 'The Big Picture', I think he has a similar argument, actually, so it's occurred to him as well.

the motivation was when I wrote my previous book The Big Picture it was a sprawling book so it was not only physics but also philosophy and neuroscience and biology and math and computer science

the Blood and Thunder book that just happened like the the reason we talked about the Native American interactions with the soldiers and the settlers ...

There was another book actually they came out just before mine called Blood and Thunder.

I think that the it's Harriet Beecher Stowe and I think the legend is that Lincoln said so... Uncle Tom's Cabin put a face on slavery and galvanized the North.

Harriet Beecher Stowe's Uncle Tom's Cabin was the first time most whites had ever read anything about what it was like to be a slave.

And then I read Son of the Morning Star,

I listened to a book called Son of the Morning Star.

Alex Berenson wrote about this in a book called, I think it's called Tell Your Children.

I had William von Hippel on a couple days ago and he's the author of *The Social Leap* and we were actually talking about this about one of the things that made human beings successful as we came down from the trees and started walking around the grasslands.

The Social Leap. Yes. What's The Social Leap? I'll tell you all about it.

And then the question is why would an animal that runs a show in the canopy leave the rainforest for the savannah? And then how would it survive once it did that? That's the story of this book.

I can't wait to read your book. Excellent. Let me hold it up for everybody. It's available right now. Go get it.

I had Suzanne Humphries on who wrote that book, Dissolving Illusions. That book is a mustread for anybody who wants to really understand the history of vaccines.

Suzanne Humphries is called Dissolving Illusions. And it's all about that and all about like, first of all, they were spraying it behind cars in streets where children were playing and people were getting polio.

I mean, this is what JD Van Schox got in Hillbilly, Elegy, right? The people who are in these small towns and they've basically been told that they have two choices. They can go on welfare or they can leave.

He wrote an entire book about the social fabric called Bowling Alone who's kind of the pioneer in the idea of social capital and what he said is that he went in with to writing this book with the idea that diversity is our strength and then he did some research and what he found is that ethnic diversity only correlates with two things and these are his words. Increased TV watching and increased protest marches that's all it, unless, unless it is within the boundaries of a common goal.

the book, 1984, in 2021, it was the 17th bestselling book in the world.

There's a guy named Michael Easter, he's been on my podcast before. He wrote a book called The Comfort Crisis. Great book.