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I'm so excited for that to come out as a as a series

I read that and a lot of it had to do with like Native Americans hunting the Buffalo and then I did read this book Empire of the Summer Moon it was on the Comanches and the holy shit

until I read Empire of the Summer Moon.

the most amazing thing about Empire of the Summer Moon was just how special the relationship that the Comanches had to the land and about how when Jessica and Parker, Cynthia, Cynthia and Parker, she's the photo out there of the woman that's breastfeeding her child. She was kidnapped when she was nine and assimilated with the Comanches and then was rekidnapped by the United States government when she was in her 30s and didn't want to go back. She missed the Comanche life and through her descriptions of the way they lived ... they had an incredible relationship with the land.

I mean this book that I read Empire the Summer Moon is all about the command cheese.

I was listening to the Empire of the Summer Moon. Fucking great book.

He told me to read your book and Empire of the Summer Moon. It was amazing. I mean he was absolutely right and it was so good and I made an Instagram post about that. I'm going to copy of it. Look at that. It's a fantastic book. There's so much good stuff in there and it was so sad and so gripping and so riveting.

Summer Moon Empire of the Summer Moon it's amazing. I recommend it too much I'm going to shut the fuck up about it.

I'm listening to this audiobook empire the summer moon it is fucking insane it is all about the war with the planes Indians versus the settlers it is insane it is like I all everyone knows that there was European settlers and they had conflict with Indians and there was a lot of things that happened but until you read like the accounts of all the different battles and all the things that happened and all the slaughters and all the chaos and the children and the messages sent by more violent like oh dude you think you're sending one message but you're really giving the wrong one

I couldn't stop listening it felt like a history lesson you couldn't get from any other source and it made the whole period feel real

holy shit holy shit is it good it's terrifying Empire of the Summer Moon it's about the wars between the settlers and native americans i'm in like it's track four whatever that means i guess it's chapter four holy fuck is it horrific ... it's about the settlers and native americans and i love the detail it gives about the whole era.

the book goes into detail about how they used horses, bows and arrows, hunting buffalo, and how the native tribes lived, it really paints a vivid picture of their lifestyle and the brutal conflicts of the 1800s.

Did you ever read Empire of the Summer Moon? I did. Bro. Incredible.

She wanted to go back. ... It's an incredible book that all talks about the conquering of Texas and the Comanche fighting the Texas Rangers. It's the book Empire of the Summer Moon.

There's an amazing book about Texas called Empire of the Summer Moon.

There's a great book about Texas called Empire of the Summer Moon.

Have you read Pressfield's War of Art no I have not oh we have a copy of it for you

Then I love he sent us a box of them because I used to give it to comics when they would or any kind of creative person when they came on the podcast but Pressfield wrote this book and he talks about the muse as if it's a real thing

You know, that's a big part of Steven Pressler's book. Steven Pressfield?

Excuse me, Pressfield.

Yeah, with The War of Art.

Amazing.

Yeah. His book, you know, is kind of all about summoning. It's about discipline, focus, dedication, but also summoning the muse.

This is the concept of the muse that the muse you summon the muse you treat the muse with respect you you literally communicate with the muse you put this intention out there and if you do this every day she will reward you and she will consistently bring you ideas and if you are a person who can develop that kind of discipline to sit there and do that you'll you'll become productive through the muse.

It's like you got to push past that creepy resistance that Steven Pressfield wrote about in The War of Art.

The War of Art which is a great book and I'm also got it from reading Stephen King on writing and talking to a lot of different writers about how they handle things if you just waited to be inspired and that's the only time you wrote you wouldn't have half as much shit right not even close written not even close half as much good material as you do if you decide I'm going to write.

Stephen Pressfield wrote about that in a really unique way in The War of Art because he talked about how just showing up and counting on the muse like thinking about the muse as a real thing

Stephen Pressfield's books on creativity. The War of Art.

I think Stephen Pressfield, I hope I'm not saying the wrong thing. The War of Art. The War of Art. Yeah. It's a beautiful book. And I would say, from my recollection, they don't necessarily talk about creativity very much. That it's really hard work putting in the hours of every day of just grinding it out.

I got a box of copies, I bought a bunch of them and I used to hand them out to comedians and artists. It's a really small book, it's easy, but it's one of the best books ever about creativity. He tells you if you treat it like there is a muse, like there is a God, you have to show up every day.

Have you ever heard of Steven Pressfield? Huh? Steven Pressfield, he's an author. He wrote a great book called The War of Art.

He wrote The War of Art.

I have copies out there. I'll give you a copy if you don't have one. I think I started the book on tape version. I have copies of the book. It's a very small book. It's very easy, but it's all about that. And Pressfield was, you know, kind of like an underachiever until he was like 40.

Have you ever read The War of Art? ... I started it. I started it.

That's like the book Sapiens. Yeah, that basically we've all One of the things we've created here is we've imagined ideas that we all share ideas of beauty ideas of truth Ideas of fairness we've all created together and there's it doesn't exist outside of us as a society and no it only exists to us

There's a great book Sapiens from Noah what is Yuval Harati um it's a great book but it just it outlines the history of the human race and these various tribes that have dealt with like weird shit like that like there's there's certain tribes that like when they see like old ladies that are moving too slow yeah they just kill them.

Did you read Sapiens?

It's a evolutionary book about human history.

What is Noah Yuvall-Harradi?

I think that's his amazing writing down.

Yeah, it's a great book.

They would talk about these nomadic tribes that would

Yeah, that's it. Yuvall Noah-Harradi, I fucked up his name.

They would talk about these nomadic tribes that would kill the old ladies.

He delves into- It's the same guy who wrote sapiens. I maybe I don't know. What's his name? No?

You have read that book Sapiens, yes, such a great book.

I was reading Sapien at the minute.

the book Sapiens by Harari yeah great book he makes a point about grain and slaving us because the agriculture revolution 10,000 years ago they we didn't really become better according to him it was less nutritious it was um it was just a worse way of living than the hunter gatherers did

Sapiens is amazing. Yeah, Sapiens my favorite book I'm on the second one right now.

I don't know if he's reading the book Sapiens.

You've read that Chaos book. The Charles Manson book. Who, Tom O'Neill's coming in next week.

I really got... I mean, I knew about it but I really didn't get completely obsessed with it until Chaos, Tom O'Neill's book.

That book's amazing.

That book became a New York Times bestseller after it came on the podcast.

It's blown through the fucking roof.

It's huge sales now.

It deserves it.

Tom O'Neill's the guy who wrote Chaos. He wrote a book about Charles Manson, the CIA, and the secret history of the sixties.

He said the book was amazing, it's bananas, it's all true, with verifiable factual evidence that made us go what the fuck else did they do that we don't know about.

That's the book Chaos by Tom O'Neill, which is a brilliant book, very well documented and details Jolly West and his influence on the Manson family and how they were influencing these people to try to sabotage the hippie movement.

Tom O'Neill's book, Chaos, that they were absolutely involved...

There's a fantastic book called Chaos by Tom O'Neill. It's all about the Manson family. I've seen it. It's phenomenal and mindblowing; it documents Jolly West and the MKUltra program.

Jonathan hates books on that

He wrote a book called The Coddling of the American Mind and part of the book was about the influence of social media

Well his book, The Coddling of the American Mind. I'm in that right now. I just finished his other one and I'm working on that one and a lot of it has to do with social media and a lot of it has to do with the impact that it has on young people.

I'm into that now.

It's fantastic and he covers us quite a bit.

Jonathan's onto something good there with the Heterodox Academy which I'm a member.

Jonathan's point is that it's more of a sort of East Coast, West Coast public university thing or maybe Harvard that kind of thing.

Universities are now at this divide between are we here for social justice or are we here for truth?

His book The Coddling of the American Mind is exactly about that, and he believes that you should let your kids roam around and find their own way.

the book Jonathan Hate wrote called The Coddling of the American Mind that discusses the issue that kids are having today with cell phones and depression and that especially girls so many girls are cutting themselves and selfharm suicides way up dude and there's a direct correlation between the invention of the smartphone and social media

they said it was a really important look at how our generation is being shaped by technology and how it might be harming their mental health

Jonathan Haidt wrote a great book called The Coddling of the American Mind, great book; it's really good, great book.

Here's a great book called Coyote America by Dan Flores.

Really interesting book.

But one of the things they found out is that when you kill a coyote, they just make more coyotes.

What was the gentleman Dan? Coyote America the the author Goddamnit.

Was he like a dude who lived amongst the wolves?

Yes, Dan Flores. No, he's a wildlife biologist and a historian

Yeah, he was talking about the history of coyotes and wolves in North America apparently all wild dog species came from North America Even like jackals yeah shit like that like they made it across over there somehow like during the Pangea's Period or something.

Dan Flores who has been a guest on the podcast before has a great book called Coyote America

There's a guy named Dan Flores he's got a bunch of great books and one of them is called Coyote America.

Coyote America, that book by Dan Flores, the same guy who wrote Bison Ecology and Bison Diplomacy.

That's the Miyamoto Masashi quote The book from The Book of Five Rings Once you know the way broadly You see it in all things

Well, it's like The Book of Five Rings. Miyamoto Musashi talks about, like, the practicing, real sword fighting literally is reaching and you have time for one strike.

it's a tattoo this is Miyamoto Musashi from The Book of Five Rings and in that book he said ...

Miyamoto Masashi's The Book of Five Rings ... It's a great book for your life just to think about excellence in your life and pursuit in your life and how all things bounce out.

That book of five rings ... it's an amazing book.

But that book over there Blitzed is a Norman Oler book about the Nazis during the Blitzky campaign. They were all on meth. All of them.

there's a book that we just read it's called Blitzed. This dude Norman O'Hur.

It's all about the Nazis they gave them Nazis meth.

There's a book that I read a book in love called Blitzed drugs in the third rike.

Did you ever read Blitzed? No. It's Norman Ohler wrote about Hitler marching through Poland and about all the drugs that they were giving people--like they would get jacked up on Pervitin. They had capsules, meth capsules. And the people at the front of the line got the most meth. They dosed people up according to where you were. But they realized that had diminishing returns because they're just jacked up all the time and they're not sleeping and then it starts falling off.

They would get jacked up on Pervitin. It's a meth. They had capsules, meth capsules. And the people at the front of the line got the most meth. They dosed people up according to where you were. It's all in the book. The book is fantastic. It's really good because it's just like-- and he said that most of what Hitler was on was actually opiates. Yukonol, Pervitin.

They gave them meth... He wrote a book called Blitzed.

I believe it's, I always say footprints of the gods, but it's really Fingerprints of the Gods.

Well, I was always into books about ancient history and whether it's, you know, like modernly, you know, commonly accepted narrative or Graham Hancock stuff. But I got into Graham Hancock stuff, I think in the 90s, Fingerprints of the Gods came out. Right. And I fucking loved it.

I sent this to Graham and his reaction was pretty interesting. What he said to me was that there's a strong suggestion that the Khufu pyramid might have been one of the three subsidiary structures alongside the Great Pyramid's eastern flank and that it looked like damaging evidence against the orthodox chronology of ancient Egypt.

It also challenged the consensus view that the Giza pyramids had been built as tombs and only as tombs.

And when he first wrote Fingerprints of the Gods, I think that came out in like 97 or 98 or something like that. I remember reading it.

Dianetics.

Have you heard of this book?

Yes, I heard if you're really good at it they put you on a boat, an org.

It's an org.

You get to be a part of an org, a sea org.

Do you remember the Dianetics commercials? Do you remember the commercials with the volcano, like the lava was going on and it just gave you like the most generalized things anyone feels. He goes, are you sometimes tired and sometimes awake?

I did that too and I did that in San Diego. I was down there filming something and we were in the park and it was like at a time where a lot of people didn't know who I am and I could sneak in and I sat down at this guy's table and he gave me the e-meter and I put my hands on things and he told me what it was reading. I'm like, how does this thing function, like what is it, what is it reading off? And the dude was like, oh I don't want to explain. He didn't want to really be there. He's just a member who got roped into doing this thing. He had zero enthusiasm about the sale.

He was a weird-looking dude... He came up with Dianetics. He was trying to selfdiagnose, trying to fix his own brain.

or someone who was also born into this terrible situation like that and you can listen to his story and read his, or listen to his audio book which is fantastic.

Read his book and understand there's people like him that used to be like me.

Like I read the Goggins book and great fucking book. Yeah. And life that dude had huh?

It's sad life. But then on the flip side, inspiring to a guy like myself where I'm running, I'm running, say I'm working out.

So yeah, I mean, I'm just now starting to get into a little bit more books than I have in the past.

I mean, just think about that kind.

There's a part in a book, I think he went to support his mother, sister and a race and then in Las Vegas and then I think he just took off and left, like he was there for them.

That stepbook is really good. It's called Can't Hurt Me.

Your book is fucking fantastic, man. This has been my running partner. The audio version of it has been my running partner for the last week.

But the audiobook is really interesting, right? Because you and the gentleman you wrote it with... Adam Skolnick reads it.

The book is outstanding and you know, it's more than just sitting across you and you telling your story--it's a detailed history of how you became the person you are.

One of the reasons why this book is so good is because you're so honest about your vulnerabilities and how you overcome them.

What people read in this book Can't Hurt Me--it's a sad, horrible story. It made me who I am today.

And the best book that I ever read about it was David Lifton's book, Best Evidence.

And David Lifton was an accountant and they hired him to go over the Warren Report and so he goes over the Warren Commission report and he finds all, he read the entire thing which is like insanely long and he finds all these inconsistencies and all these things don't make any sense.

This is a part of David Lifton's book, "Best Evidence". Kennedy's brain wasn't even in his body when they buried him.

A buddy of mine gave me David Lifton's Best Evidence on the Kennedy assassination.

Did you ever read David Lifton's novel or a book about it rather? Yeah. Best Evidence.

I didn't read the whole book when I was researching this back in the 90s after the Oliver Stone film came out.

And he was hired to do something with the Warren Commission Report.

And because he found some contradictions and he went over the entire Warren Commission Report which is an enormous, enormous publication. And he found all of these problems, all of these problems in the Warren Commission Report and all these contradictions.

And his take was there was a conspiracy.

The Sacred Mushroom and The Cross,

or even give me when I was living with you, you actually, I was a dick.

I left down the fucking floor.

Like one of the reading materials you gave me during that wonderful time was this insane book about how Jesus and Christianity has its roots in psilocybin.

But like if you just for the sake of this rant, if you look at Jesus as psychedelics, it makes a lot of sense because what Jesus is saying is you don't need a priest class to communicate with the divine.

there's the sacred mushroom in the bible John Marco Allegro's book about the Dead Sea Scrolls where he thought that the entire Christian religion had its origins in fertility rituals and psychedelic mushroom therapy that they were all having these rituals and consuming these mushrooms that's the Elysianian mysteries that they all got together and drank some sort of a potion the kookion that was a psychedelic potion and they devised democracy and they figured out all sorts of very unusual philosophies from these psychedelic experiences

what was the book I think it was the the crossbook that you've talked about the sacred cross or oh the sacred mushroom in the cross wasn't really that's the one I would heard of it could it I'm that my rumor might get passed around a lot yeah nine years or something

Well, there's a book called The Sacred Mushroom in the Cross. It's by John Marco Allegro and he was a biblical scholar that was one of the guys that was assigned to decipher the Dead Sea Scrolls.

The uh, the guy who did "Chariots of the Gods?"

He's the guy who wrote "Chariots of the Gods?"

Oh God, yeah, yeah. In his 80s now.

Staple book in our house.

And he was showing us slides.

What's the real story there, I was wondering.

He's the author of Charity of the Gods.

The one of the Aztec guy, I guess Aztec or mine. I guess the mine guy. It's mine.

He's laying back. It looks like in some sort of a throne with fire below him and he's manipulating these knobs and that means that aliens landed and seated them with technology.

I think you should check out Chariots of the Gods--it sparked a lot of the ideas about ancient astronauts and how they might have influenced early human technology.

And he details it in great detail.

And he talks about it in his book On Writing as well.

I don't know... Stephen King grew up poor in Maine and his dad did the old cigarette move and never came back... He read Stephen King On Writing, a fantastic book.

He's got a great book On Writing. And then it's actually called On Writing. On Writing.

He was a great book. It's called On Writing. Stephen King On Writing. I read that one. It's great.

Yeah Pressfield was kind of like a near do well until he was like 40 kind of like was like half-assing it till he was 40 and then somewhere along the line he realized that it's just about being a professional and like showing up and so he started addressing the muse

And then he wrote The Legend of Bagger Vance and he wrote like some great screenplays and books and yeah and just became like very prolific

This gentleman named Steven Pressfield is a great author he wrote a legend of bag or vance a bunch of other great movies and he um wrote this book called The War of Art.

He wrote The Legend of Bagger Vance.

He wrote a book called Hero with a Thousand Faces. So back in 1988... I read that book... The Power of Myth and The Hero with a Thousand Faces were the books that taught me about the hero's journey.

I mean, there's, you know, Joseph Campbell. Yeah, I was just gonna bring it up. You know, so, you know, in the power of myth, but is more technical version, the hero with a thousand faces.

I have read of course all Joseph Campbell stuff so I kind of understand formats of myths and the ... thousand faces.

You could probably like take a really great novel like The Great Gatsby, run it through an AI video creator, and it would just make you the most amazing version of The Great Gatsby.

I'm really the most again. Didn't he do that with The Great Gatsby? He did like a few times.

Did you ever read The Great Gatsby?

I haven't read The Great Gatsby; I just watched the movie.

Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill like just blew my mind, you know, like, fuck, people who actually think like this here, you know, like you can Think and Grow Rich.

Napoleon Hill's book.

I think it's a great book.

my favorite book thinking grow rich from napoleon hill i always take that was it

it's just a powerful book for my life i discovered it in 2000 the end of 2007

it was just such an inspirational book um and really kind of like the bible for selfhelp books

highlighted portion that says every adversity carries with it the seed of an equivalent advantage

another one of my favorites from napoleon hill that i've used on shirts and inside a key before

those books, fucking Hell's Angels and, you know, Fear and Loathing is some of the best writing.

Fear and Loathing changed my life. Like, reading that book was like, what the fuck? Like, what is this guy doing? There's grown men out there.

Just read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. It's a completely insane book about the chaos of being out of your fucking mind in Vegas. It's brilliant.

if you read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas