On Purpose with Jay Shetty

And as we were talking about before, what I love about the book is that it's the stories, it's the psychology, it's the tips, it's the insight, it's everything. It's this very 360-degree approach.

This is the book that I'm going to give them. Or even if you say, I don't have an idea. I just am a bit curious about all of this. All my friends are becoming entrepreneurs. I see it all over the world. How do I do that?

It's going to be my new book that I recommend to each and every single person who comes to me and says, do you have an idea? I don't know what to do with it. I don't know where to start. How do I go about it?

You can go out and grab it right now. You will not regret it. You may want to get it for a friend and family member too.

I really, really hope everyone goes and grabs a copy. I can't wait for people to read it.

I spent my last five hikes listening to his new audiobook, Monsters and How to Tame Them.

I have not been that into something for a long, long time.

I have not stopped talking about the different monsters, the different personalities to my wife, my team, to my colleagues.

You've made it so relevant and accessible to talk about your flaws in a way that I've never seen before.

I really do recommend this to anyone who's a big fan of Kevin's as I am. Please do go listen to the audiobook because Monsters and How To Tame Them, I have never heard someone be as open and transparent as you are in it.

As Adam Grant describes in his book Originals, test audiences didn't know what to do with a show about nothing, as it was described by writers Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld.

As Adam Grant describes in Originals, one study showed that scientists who cultivated artistic hobbies, such as playing an instrument, painting, woodworking, writing, or acting were up to 22 more times likely to win a Nobel prize compared to scientists who did not cultivate such interests.

Today's guest is astrologer and author Chani Nicholas, whose book You Are Born For This has helped millions find meaning in their charts and their lives.

And if you're loving our conversation, I highly recommend you go and grab your copy of You Are Born For This, Astrology for Radical SelfAcceptance by Chani Nicholas.

And of course, go and grab Chani's book, You Were Born for This, Astrology for Radical SelfAcceptance.

Now, her most recent book that I highly recommend you go and order right away, and you're going to want to, especially during and after this conversation, is called Bitter Sweet, How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole.

But this new book, Bitter Sweet, what I find really interesting about this is, I find that as humans, and I'm speaking on my behalf, and I think a lot of my community feels this way as well, is that we've never been taught about what to do with pain.

And so anyway, it was really trying to understand like what that music was all about. That got me started on this inquiry of what bittersweetness is.

And I started looking at all these different traditions from all over the world and across time. And they're all telling us that the willingness to accept the fact that life is a mix of joy and sorrow is one of the great bonding agents we have, because we all are humans who are in that same state of being.

I hope everyone goes and uh uh downloads the playlist that's that's great I love that all right well question number four how would you define your current purpose yeah telling the truth of what it's like to be alive you know like hopefully like and talk talking about the things that people don't feel like you can chit chat about at the grocery store but the things that matter the most that's beautiful I love that

And today's guest is someone's book that I've been reading. I'm about halfway through it, in all honesty. And I can't put it down because of just how honest, raw, open and vulnerable today's author is about some seriously life-changing moments.

And I know for a fact that this is going to help you if you read the book and it's going to help the people around you because of what you learn from it.

I couldn't put it down because the way you deeply describe some truly life-changing moments, I think is going to impact so many people in the world.

I thanked you offline, but I want to say online as well that thank you for writing this book as a service because I think it's going to move and make a difference in the lives of so many people.

I highly recommend you need to go and read it in the book, but I'd love to ask Gabrielle now.

But beyond all of that, she is the founder of ClassPass and the author of this incredible new book called Life Pass, Drop Your Limits, Rise to Your Potential.

Her name is Payal Kadakia, and you need to go and grab this book.

You've got your amazing new book out, which I was fortunate enough to read before.

I actually had a conversation just like this... I said to him, I said, well, let's ask this question differently. I said, what if you ask the question, what problem can I solve?

I love that you just said you had to fight to dance. Because I think we think that purpose should just flow... But you said you had to fight.

I mean, you've done so many interviews with so many incredible people and I can't imagine how you'd even start to write this book, but I, I do want to honestly say that I thought everything from the titles to the chapters to the structure was just wonderful to see.

And, and I'm honestly, and I'm not joking at all, I'm thinking about pursuing a new business venture and I'm going to follow your book while I do that.

Here is the book. Uh, we've got the link in the description so you can go and grab a copy anytime while we're listening, uh, while you're listening.

Your brand. Or describe yourself in two to five words.

How are you using 24 hours a day?

He had a very specific way he wanted to do it.

It required planning and logistics to make sure because he wanted a letter to be given to every fan in attendance at the game.

He wanted... Nobody would know anything that he was going to make this announcement until he made it.

There was no leaks. There was nothing.

That's when I think he really knew that I was there in his corner for him.

In his book Creativity Inc, Catmull shared a letter he once received from animator Austin Madison.

So seeing Mysterious Island, which was a Ray Harryhausen film, I probably would have been seven or eight. And coming home and wanting to do my own version of Mysterious Island, so I started to draw essentially a comic book.

And the fact that I get to sit here with you today and dissect it is a real treat and joy for me.

Quiz.gretchenrubin.com is where you can take that quiz.

Upholders readily meet outer and inner expectations. They want to do what others expect from them but their expectations for themselves are just as important.

Questioners question all expectations. They'll do something if they think it makes sense. So they want justification, research, rationale, reasons.

Obligers readily meet outer expectations but they struggle to meet inner expectations.

There's these incredible biographies of men and women in history. And some very early personal growth books like Norman Vincent Peale, The Power of Positive Thinking, Dale Carnegie, I mean, Napoleon Hill, all the classics, right?

It was not a book on business. It was Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda.

Exactly. And that's why I respect you so much, because I know you called your book Serve to Win. And, you know, that's beautiful.

And I think that that's such a great tennis analogy. But, you know, and I've seen I've been on. Thankfully, I've been on the other side of your serves.

It's like your passion makes you happy. But when you use your passion in the service of others, it becomes a purpose.