My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

And then there's a book by Sally Denton called The Colony.

And that's about the recent massacre of women and children who are Mormon fundamentalists in Mexico that happened recently where their cars were burnt.

Isn't that a Dan Brown book?

Yeah, it is.

But during his imprisonment, Erville writes a lengthy document entitled the Book of the New Covenants

You recently released a children's book. I did. And I, matter of fact, I was at a school today. I wrote a book, a children's book. It's called Finding Sierra.

And I really wanted to meet the children where they are. So part of my history as a police officer in Falls Church, I used to go into the schools. I was a certified DARE officer. I also taught the gang curriculum as well.

Finding Sierra by Derrick Wilson. Buy that book if you can.

Deeply funny, moving, and urgent writing about a country that can feel broken into pieces. Oh my God. And the light that shines through the cracks. From Irish comedian Maeve Higgins, author of Nave in America.

So it is based on his truth, whatever that is.

I heavily use a GQ article by Josh Dean, who also wrote the book, The Great Buenos Aires Bank Heist.

One of my favorite fictional detectives is Inspector Maigret of Paris, I guess the novels that were written by Georges Simenon back in the early, mid 20th century.

And he was a chief inspector who operated in Paris. The stories were all the kind of stories that we do on Dateline. You just, it's the same kind of stuff and it happens over and over again.

But his motto was understand but do not judge.

There's a website called whatsappnewport.com. What is up, Newport? What is up? I've always been wondering that. So it's a good thing. So there's an article from there about Sunny von Blow. Then of course the movie Reversal of Fortune and the book written by Alan Dershowitz.

And that's the book that this movie is based on.

This movie is based on a book by Alan Dershowitz.

one of which is The Underground Railroad by Colson Whitehead, which is, I'd already heard it's won tons of major awards.

And that's such a phony thing that clearly I don't know which ones. Just plenty of major awards having to do with books.

it really is one of the most beautifully written books about one of the most horrifying topics that like, it's so good. It just rolls along.

I read it so quickly and then I was done with it. I was like, damn, I have to now have to get figure out what my next book is.

In 2010, Clelia published a book entitled, Where is Robert? Writing about her family's continued fight for answers.

It's called We Were the Lucky Ones by Georgia Hunter, which is such a powerful title because it's like if you didn't die in the Holocaust, if you were one of the 6 million Jews that died in the Holocaust, you're lucky. You were the lucky ones.

So my thing about it that I love is that we know about the Holocaust. We know about Treblinka and Auschwitz and the numbers, but this book is historical fiction and it follows a family and each of their journeys to survive the Holocaust, which is so much more and personal and it's a way to look at what really happened.

Each one has such an interesting story of how they escaped and how they hid and how they fought alongside. So it's a beautiful fucking book and it really moved me.

This last weekend was Passover and it really made me realize what it took to... People who had to be brave and survive in my family line to let me be here and on a Zoom fucking Seder is unbelievable and it kind of made me appreciate life a little bit more and how lucky I am.

So it's called We Were the Lucky Ones by Georgia Hunter and the audio book's great. I highly recommend it.

Judy Blume had a book called Starring Sally J. Friedman as herself. Did you ever read that book?

Okay, so it's about a young Jewish girl and she has family that survived World War II that are coming over from Europe. They're emigrating to come and live with them. Like they have two, like a cousin or something. I can't remember, but I read this book when I was like 10 years old and Sally J. Friedman, the lead character, is this young American, a Jewish American girl who wants to be an actress.

So she keeps acting out these dramatic things that she thinks these relatives have been through and she's doing it, whatever, and then she actually meets them. And it was really powerful.

A really powerful book to read as a kid and also an amazing way to get introduced to the Holocaust of like, this is what people went through.

A reporter and a crime writer named Fred Rosen, he wrote the book Lobster Boy about Grady Stiles, who we covered on this show.

Fred Rosen did publish a book in 2011 called Trails of Death. The true story of National Forest serial killer Gary Hilton.