Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

And I'm one and a half in the Sherry Papini story, which to bring people up to date, though, if you're a juicy scooper, I started talking about this the moment it happened, which was in 2016, because I've had the show for nine years.

But I also remember hearing that people thought that they not, people did not really think, I believe, that she was involved like they really, until she came back.

And by the way Mary's book is coming out, it is out and oh good, no I have it. Okay, maybe it's not okay, but I know, I think it's not available till September.

There's a very good essay in Sarah Polly's book, the lady who directed *Women Talking*, but it was about a controversy in Canada, a Me Too accusations.

I listened to all 48 hours of the Streisand book and Streisand.

Autobiography.

She reads it herself.

She reads it herself. The performance is amazing.

I had got him a book about sheds.

He sat on the toilet and read that for days.

He like treated me better after that.

He like I gave a book about sheds and he like face raked me.

He's like, thanks. That means a lot.

And according to his book he did not.

It wasn't he like either selling suits or a personal trainer or something before.

He was selling suits.

And I mean he's told me this story and I read it in this book and that you know on Christmas Eve I think one year he lost his job and they were down in the dumps and it sounds like you know he had such a great partner that they were able to kind of figure it out and build it up together.

I have to give you my book Secrets of a Jewish Mother. I know, shameless, I want to.

I have to give it to you and you have one well-sorted.

I did read the whole 'Pair of Sultans', one I thought it was really good, I liked it, read it on a plane, I read the whole Britney one I liked it and I still heard all the stuff but someone just summarizing something of like oh Justin Timberlake did this happen.

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Natasha wrote a great book by the way.

My book is called "Subculture of Ultra", available now. It just became an actual bestseller, kind of exciting.

That's my second book.

And it's basically a world, uh, uh, kind of look at all the worlds that I've lived in in my life, uh, a, a, the 12 steps, uh, deafness and sign language interpreting, my families all deaf, the world of the acidic Jews, my dad was like a born again acidic Jew that I would basically, cause, play as Tevye the Milkman for six weeks a year on my summer vacation from like my totally secular life in Oakland, the world of raves, I was a rave promoter, rave DJ, and ecstasy dealer believe it or not.

Clean and sober ecstasy dealer in the early 90s in San Francisco, Burning Man, I've been to Burning Man 25 times and used to work there for a decade and a half, and then the world that we all share, which is stand-up comedy, so I kind of do a history. I'm getting it, I'm getting your book, I will love that.

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I think she saw Beyonce doing than a UN center, whatever she says. Like, why, you know, they were marching on my lawn and I didn't notice all these things. But then she would say, I didn't want to be alone.

I was 39 years old. I wanted to believe this was all Tisa and I broke up. And what's his name? I didn't, well, I didn't listen to her. I'm just happy for her that she's going to Europe, she's gonna chronicle Europe, people are happy for her. And she was like, ladies, you've got to ask these questions.

So that was what the book is.

It was people were happier in one of the worst times of our lives.

So tell us about that. What have you discovered.

And then I realized, oh no, it was just to come on the show.

Who you surround yourself with shows who you are and your character, right?

I owe her a Mercedes because this is the agreement.

There's a whole chapter in the book called, "I Keep a Job."

It's like, I'm. I always had a regular job too.

So it's like sometimes I don't realize after talking to other comics, I'm like, I'm very fortunate in a blessed my situation because I'm like, he came to a taping I was doing and there was a guy there.

My boss told me that if I wanted to make more commission I'd just sleep with him. It's in my book "Hello Friends."

She really helped me with the book. Because she wrote her book.

She had written a book while I was there maybe like midway into my time at the mansion and I just remember when it came out heft kept trying to debunk it by saying well look she got this fact wrong she said she saw John Belushi there at this date but he was dead by this date like he was pointing out all these inconsistencies so you know I kind of took it with a grain of salt but I don't disbelieve any of that.

I did but very like low key like I didn't want have to see I was reading it in the bathroom yeah and I didn't know what really what to make of it at the time because he was kind of pointing out inconsistencies with it but now I don't disbelieve any of like the you know the real stuff that happened when someone had it things and she was very young too right and when somebody comes out with something like that you know and you've got the person that you're living with that's your whole world being like oh she was bitter they're chasing something or she couldn't make it as an actress so now she's doing this tell to get press they just want to get pressed of course that's always the thing that you hear from the man that's denying the accusation you know yeah absolutely.

I was expressing my concern on secrets of playboy and saying that one of the many reasons I kind of felt like I didn't want to leave when I was at the mansion is you have all these kind of naked photos of yourself candid photos from the bedroom you're wasted you don't remember taking them and he puts them all in his scrapbook and then years later I found out he wants to donate those scrapbooks to a lion's garden.

So it's kind of gross to know that it's very revenge porn like so many of these women and there's picture fashion revenge porn yeah and there's so many of these women who were coming to test for playmate who maybe never became a playmate or a girlfriend or nothing ever came out of it and they have their explicit photos that maybe they were wasted and don't even remember taking with their name on it in the book that he wants to put in the light public library that's gross.

I've interviewed her and I've watched every episode I think that after 10 years she was like I think she tried I think she was into it and she was you know and then after 10 years she just kind of was like you can screw whoever you want yeah I'm gonna pursue this other career and he was like you spend you could have this credit card and she spent it and I mean she really doesn't have anything to show from those 20 years that she hasn't now built herself in the last five yeah I mean thank God she went on the show though because now she knows she has that lifeline and he and I asked I was like why do you think he would want her on the show when he's doing this corrupt stuff yeah and um I don't think they ever think it's gonna come out they never do it that's the narcissistic way they just think they're smart and he thought well this will just get me more business yeah there's a lot of people that don't associate me with Aaron Rockovich or don't know you know so he thought oh this will be great you know and this was the trophy and but it was interesting when you look back and then he was like want me finish let me finish I like it's just like a crotchety dick and she just was like whatever I'm just gonna you know yeah it's so rude get my jewels and whatever but I mean but in that power dynamic you're kind of stuck with it sucks I know what's that saying like anybody that marries for money works hard it's the hardest job like it'll never work harder if that's the reason because you're in this weird I do I do yeah I do think when you agree to it it is a different dynamic yeah you get all the stuff but you just don't have the say or like you're catering to this person yeah yeah yeah it's 24 hours you're kind of watching your back and yeah making sure you're always doing the right things now do you um what about crystal laughter have you read her book um it's not out yet I don't think oh okay I've been following her and I'm after to come on the show she does it doesn't respond but I think she's saving it for herself I think she's doing her own show I don't know I unfollowed her I was talking to her for a while I was interested in hearing her story because she said some things before that I really resonated with but then she started getting like really rude and mean to bridge it on our Instagram stories for no reason like they don't even talk and I'm like I can't follow her anymore I can't do this junior high shit what do you mean like she was trying to say stuff back like not even say stuff back because Bridget wasn't even saying anything about her but she would do these Q&As on our Instagram story and as we all know Q&As are often curated you know if you want to say something wait for somebody to ask you that question so it doesn't really know that really now that makes sense that you say that I feel like people do that all the time you know where I I I've had some drama in my own um life what I've joked about and I'm be like I want off on the real house was a podcasting because I don't enjoy it yeah I really don't I wore hoops by the way oh thank you but I really don't enjoy that and it's funny that fans sometimes think it is like curated like yeah I'm like I wish it was that we got into a room and decided to do this together so I think there's I think that never happens but I do think there's certain people that will leave a nasty comment under a post as bait as bait knowing that like a reality blurb or something will grab that make that a story they can read back to Reddit yeah now there's a fight yeah now you're responding and because but I personally don't like that I have to me it's like stresses me out and I it's it's not how I like run being a stand-up comic or what I do with this show and so unfortunately now that I'm like kind of hyper aware of it even when somebody's like oh this so-and-so said this about you on their podcast I'm like sometimes I'll go listen but I'm like I don't want to respond because then it's like now I have the you know the micro influence is doing a thing about it and then they're never and I'm like and I'm not going to just keep like defending myself so that I never thought about with the Q&A thing because I've never done the Q&A thing on the Instagram so meaning like you have someone or you tell your persistent to go like ask the question or you can put the question out or maybe you know it's something out there people are talking about and you want to respond to it but so it seems less out of pocket you just ask your fans ask me a question and hopefully somebody asks it or you could ask yourself I guess oh and then get that drama going yeah so then she started saying just things that were very hurtful to Bridget like saying well have never asked about her have never wanted to see her before he died and things like that and you know have told me that those relationships weren't you weren't even significant in his life and just like really rude hurtful shit and I'm just unfollowed because I don't want to do this junior high BS no but the one reason that you kind of connected with her is that she was like I found all the photos some of the photos right yeah yeah they connect over that I was expressing my concern on secrets of playboy and saying that one of the many reasons I kind of felt like I didn't want to leave when I was at the mansion is you have all these kind of naked photos of yourself candid photos from the bedroom you're wasted you don't remember taking them and he puts them all in his scrapbook and then years later I found out he wants to donate those scrapbooks to a lion's garden.

she ended up writing a book about it after the fact so I was able to go in and kind of see she's no longer with us now she passed away at age 50 but she but we did get convicted she did and she spent 10 years in prison she escaped she met someone in prison they escaped she went to Canada got caught there and she was only extra-died back to the states when they agreed to retry the case so she ended up getting second-degree but time served so she was free after that but it was just a wild story and it got so much press attention at the time and by the time she escaped everybody was kind of rooting for her and they cut her nickname was bambi so it was like run bambi remember this I remember this like made for TV movie now yeah because they called her bambi in the police academy training they all had nicknames for each other well you know it's just it is just so it's so interesting how press and media you know any kind of like even when you watch a date line or whatever if it it's like a Hollywood story you know and they're like oh I'm like all let me get into this one and it's like they'll exaggerate how much the person even worked in Hollywood it'll be like for sure and she had you know and you're like wait a minute she was an extra for one day yeah like but anything to kind of like grab on that the players in it were Hollywood driven or attractive so then any association with playboy you know just really ups the interest but then of course it can be really used against you too when in this in this case it's frustrating because back then there was no social media or anyways she could really speak for herself and she couldn't do a tech talk and be like oh excuse me yeah like I was really a police officer not just a waitress for three weeks yeah and they fired me because I was being hit on and I was gonna talk about it or whatever the case might have been or they were just pissed that they were even allowing women back then to be cops or whatever

I just wrote a booklet called Tone Up at the Terminals, an exercise guide for computer operators. So I have some interesting exercises I could teach everybody.