Where the Deer and the Antelope Play The Pastoral Observations of One Ignorant American Who Loves to Walk Outside

And if you haven't heard of it, Nick's written a book called Where the Deer and the Antelope Play, The Pastoral Observations of One Ignorant American Who Loves to Walk Outside.

So it's become this game that I try to enjoy, where I try to make myself laugh with the subtitle I've learned.

And that's basically what it is. It is my sort of musings on our relationship with nature or lack thereof.

And the awareness I have through being inspired by agrarian writers like Wendell Berry and Michael Pollan and Aldo Leopold and their ilk, Robin Wall Kimmerer, reading their stuff and coming to understand how dumb we are when it comes to knowing who makes our food, for example.

So that's the hilarious hijinks the book is full of. I love it. But I think that's really good advice because that's the feeling I had like reading this book is, oh, I am not this way enough and I have to like now drive myself like five miles into the forest to blah, blah, whatever, where it's like, oh no, I can actually just do half steps or beginner steps.

I got this email that Offerman had a new book coming out called Where the Deer and the Antelope Play.

and in the book, too, I mean, there's a lot of, you know, moving firewood around and rebuilding a farm and it's all there.

the first part of the book is a long hike you take with Jeff Tweedy of Wilco and George Saunders, the author.

Your most recent book is Where the Deer and the Antelope Play. And I've read that but I also in getting ready to talk to you, you know, I'm interested in the whole sweep of your kind of meanderings and writing and thinking and living and I also just really loved your first two books, I think Paddle Your Own Canoe and Good Clean Fun.

And I just feel like you, you learn so much about life through woodworking. Whenever you perform as a humorist, you encourage the audience to find something to make with their hands. What's that about?

And it's so, it's one of the hardest things I've ever had to do because first of all, Wendell is a very scholarly and erudite writer.

And so I, I wrote him a letter basically asking him if I could adapt some of his work. And he said, he wrote me back and he said, I like you. And I like your letter. Uh, the answer is no.

I mean, I'm so glad you pulled that out. I just love the idea of you, you finish, you know, I love reading to the end of the last word of any book that I love.

And, you know, in your most recent book, The Pastor, you write that you can't imagine now not having become that.