Outlive The Science and Art of Longevity

Some of you may know Dr. Peter Atia because he's been a guest on this podcast.

He wrote the incredible book Outlive and he talks about how having a strong spine, having the ability to break falls by virtue of training your ability to jump down things and step down things with confidence is essential to offset the aging process.

Your book Outlive beautifully covered these, and I tend to regurgitate some of what you say on this podcast.

So I kind of think of like if you want to live longer, and I described this, I think in chapter four of Outlive, that turns out to be mathematically equivalent in the modern society to delaying the onset of chronic disease.

And we mentioned Peter, a tear earlier, okay? In Outlive he's made it very clear that sarcopenia lack of muscle mass is one of the drivers of mortality. So losing muscle is not a good idea.

Dr. Conti emphasized the fact that one of the ways that we hold ourselves back and indeed can exacerbate the negative consequences of trauma are the ways in which we modify our language to describe those traumas.

Dr. Conti and Dr. Atilla, Dr. Conti emphasized the fact that one of the ways that we hold ourselves back and indeed can exacerbate the negative consequences of trauma are the ways in which we modify our language to describe those traumas.

He is the author of a best-selling book entitled Outlive, which is a phenomenal resource on all things health, span and lifespan.

And he is the host of the very popular podcast The Drive where he interviews various experts in all domains of medicine and scientists as well.

The question is you know do you need to be fasting all the time? Do you need to be doing all of these other things and the answer appears to be Outside of using them as tools to manage energy balance. It's not clear right and energy balance probably plays a greater role in glucose homeostasis than From a nutrition standpoint then the individual constituents of the meal

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Outlive is not just informative, it is important.

This is a phenomenal book. I've read it covered to cover it now three times. I have extensive notes written throughout, and the book of course focuses on longevity and health span and also has an extensive section on emotional health. It gets quite detailed into Dr. Atiyah's personal experiences with emotional health and tools to improve emotional health that are very actionable for anybody to use.

Outlive is an important book, as is the discussion that Dr. Atiyah so graciously provided us in today's episode.

I think the best way for me to summarize my feelings about the book would simply be to read the back jacket quote which I provided.

You're also the author of the number one New York Times bestseller, Outlive, The Science and Art of Longevity.

You remember Peter Atilla when he came on this show? He wrote the book Outlived. It was on the New York Times bestseller list, I think for 14 months.

You remember Peter Atilla when he came on this show? He wrote the book "Outlived".

He's got a new book out, which you must buy. It's so good. It's number one right now on the New York Times bestseller list for nonfiction and for a reason.

It's called Outlive, the science and art of longevity. And it is a number one New York Times bestseller, which is not easy to do.

And you do get lots of very practical, useful tips, but it's, it's an education on how to think about your life and your wellness.

I think that you set it up beautifully when you started the book with the egg story.

And there's a reason that it's number one on the New York Times. I mean, this is legit.

I've read part of Outlive. Yeah. I think it's in the introduction.

I read your book.

the one thing that I feel like was, uh, in the book a lot, you talked about how stress was something you were really on the back burner that you kind of put to kind of like the day to day and a health perspective.

Is there any, the book, obviously read the book, dude, read the book, listen to the podcast.

This is the book that I recommend. If you're going to read about your health right now, this is the book I want you to go and get.

I want to dive into many aspects of the book, many topics.

I talk about this sort of model of trauma where wounded children become adaptive children And adaptive children are there to protect the wounded children

I think that the most important lesson for me in the past decade has been that all the health stuff that makes up most of that book, how do you reduce your odds of getting cancer? How do you reduce your odds of getting heart disease? How do you make sure your muscles work better in the last decade of your life? All those things, they're very important But if you're miserable none of it matters

The book is written basically it's 17 chapters, 16 of the chapters are me writing about it as the doctor, the scientist and then the last chapter, which is about emotional health, is me actually just writing about my personal experience and my own transformation

Outlive was by Peter Tia was the top selling book of the last couple of years. It's like, it's like people are desperate for this information.

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Peter Attia discuss healthspan, lifespan, obesity, the profound difference simple changes can make, diseases such as cancer and diabetes, and realistic ways you can actively work toward a higher quality of life.

"Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity" (Book):

So I think that exercise is empirically the most valuable tool we have for both the cognitive and physical components.

So, a long while back I was looking at interventions to improve people's lives and I knew at that point that cognitive decline was a major problem especially in terms of productivity and general competence.

Did you read Outlive?

I haven't read it yet

I don't read Peter Atiyah's book, Outlive? ... Great book. I'm into the cold plunging.

Everyone I know is reading Outlive, myself included. It's fantastic.

I would want people to know like, this is the stuff when you read his book, which is phenomenal.

Now we get into Outlive, your book, which is about ultimately longevity.

In other words, there's something about a lack of agency that permeates this myth. And I think in many ways, that's actually probably what the book I've written tries to cast doubt on.

So in other words, we do have control over what's going to happen to us. We have a lot more control and especially when it comes to our health span.

I wanted to write a book that could be an operating manual for the person who acknowledges that maybe the system isn't perfect. But what can I do to say, OK, like now I know a lot of this stuff and I don't need a physician for it.

The founder of Early Medical and the author of the number one New York Times bestseller Outlive, the science and art of longevity.

I've been following Dr. Atia for a while and I am thrilled to have him on the show.

And the insight I gleaned from Dr. Atia and his work is that it's not about longevity, it's about the quality of your life.

Dr. atia what is this podcast find you I'm at home in austin so let's let's bust right into it yeah can you walk us through your notion of longevity specifically as it relates to lifespan and health span you talk a lot about health span which speaks to quality of life can you break down the physical cognitive and emotional components to per I don't want to say prolonging life but enhancing life would that be a better way to say it

he's also the host of the drive and the author of the number one new york times bestseller outlive the science and art of longevity he joins us from austin uh doctor as you are going through that analysis of the trade-offs in your life and wondering whether it's worth it you do need to add in on the credit side you're having an enormously positive impact on people I think a lot of young people are thinking about health earlier that wouldn't have otherwise had they not seeing your content you're so outstanding at distilling down this information and people look at you and they want to be you so I hope that you I hope that's part of your calculus and we really appreciate your time today

Outlive the Science and Art of Longevity.

Outlive the Science and Art of Longevity.

I'm far more optimistic in our capacity to prevent or at a minimum significantly delay the onset of Alzheimer's disease than I am in our capacity to treat it once it takes hold.

It's better to be kind of a 7 out of 10 on everything than a 10 out of 10 on one of them and a 0 out of 10 on another.

Eat less, eat better.

Peter Atiyah, great, another person of, um, who's great, medical doctor wrote the book Outlive. He talks about the centenarian Olympics. So I think thinking of what you're going to do when you're a hundred can be a bit of a stretch unless you're, you know, really into the AI and the, you know, all the craziness.

There's lots of research around reduced mortality rates and longevity. That's really a big one Dr. Peter Atiyah and Outlive has been certainly championing of the late.

I want you to pick up his book it's called Outlive, it's a masterpiece it's very long and he does a pretty good job he's the smartest human I've ever come across in my life ever ever ever but he does a good job of distilling this down but the idea is the centering Olympics but I'm gonna tell you he is also somebody who's transformed I first ran across his material back in 2012 when he was in the middle of or beginning he didn't have a gramma sugar for like three years or something like that trying to make some the case about kitosas and things that he's one of the early guys in that um and now I'll tell you yeah ethanol is bad for you alcohol is not good for it all but if you're with close friends and you got the good stuff enjoy your life right because because what cuz what's the point right yeah and so let me tell you some things I don't budge on I work out I move my body every day sometimes that's throwing on a rock a go-rock bag with some weights in it and I walk on a treadmill I got a new assault fitness treadmill it's the greatest thing of all time and I walk on it for half an hour is that a good workout no isn't moving my body yep this morning I went real hard for too long like I over did at this morning that's cool I was gonna do something every day I'm gonna move every day also because of my friend Jordan's side I feel like this show is just me talking about buddies who've been who've influenced my life um I've incorporated a couple of days of movement into my life I went to my daughter's Taekwondo uh practice yesterday and I remembered when I was doing MMA I used to be able to stand just look at it another guy pick up my foot and put my ankle I put my my heel on his shoulder and I'm struggling touch my toes I was like you I'm like I start doing that but I'm not getting up before I am you know why cuz I want to laugh really hard at 9 30 or 9 o'clock or 8 30 with my 14 year old I'm hanging out with my wife I want to be able to be there when my eight year old daughter refuses to go to bed in world bedtime number 14 right I don't want to miss out on that stuff so I'm not gonna get up before I just did a thing with Jaco um a month ago dude gets up for it's high rolls that's cool I'm excited I mean I'm it's awesome it's cool to see that example out there that's not for me and my season with two young kids and a long drive to work and farm chores and a crazy travel schedule so I want you to give yourself some grace is that cool yeah

that's what dr. Tia does so beautifully right and if you've heard about dr. Tia he he trains his patience for this thing he made up called the centering Olympics or the things that I want to be able to do physically when I'm 100 and what do I have to start doing now in my 30s 40s and 50s so that I can do these things later on that's what I need that's what I need okay so I want you to pick up his book it's called Outlive it's a masterpiece it's very long and he does a pretty good job he's the smartest human I've ever come across in my life ever ever ever but he does a good job of distilling this down but the idea is the centering Olympics but I'm gonna tell you he is also somebody who's transformed I first ran across his material back in 2012 when he was in the middle of or beginning he didn't have a gramma sugar for like three years or something like that trying to make some the case about kitosas and things that he's one of the early guys in that um and now I'll tell you yeah ethanol is bad for you alcohol is not good for it all but if you're with close friends and you got the good stuff enjoy your life right because because what cuz what's the point right yeah and so let me tell you some things I don't budge on I work out I move my body every day sometimes that's throwing on a rock a go-rock bag with some weights in it and I walk on a treadmill I got a new assault fitness treadmill it's the greatest thing of all time and I walk on it for half an hour is that a good workout no isn't moving my body yep this morning I went real hard for too long like I over did at this morning that's cool I was gonna do something every day I'm gonna move every day also because of my friend Jordan's side I feel like this show is just me talking about buddies who've been who've influenced my life um I've incorporated a couple of days of movement into my life I went to my daughter's Taekwondo uh practice yesterday and I remembered when I was doing MMA I used to be able to stand just look at it another guy pick up my foot and put my ankle I put my my heel on his shoulder and I'm struggling touch my toes I was like you I'm like I start doing that but I'm not getting up before I am you know why cuz I want to laugh really hard at 9 30 or 9 o'clock or 8 30 with my 14 year old I'm hanging out with my wife I want to be able to be there when my eight year old daughter refuses to go to bed in world bedtime number 14 right I don't want to miss out on that stuff so I'm not gonna get up before I just did a thing with Jaco um a month ago dude gets up for it's high rolls that's cool I'm excited I mean I'm it's awesome it's cool to see that example out there that's not for me and my season with two young kids and a long drive to work and farm chores and a crazy travel schedule so I want you to give yourself some grace is that cool yeah

And he wrote this new book which is an absolute masterpiece. It's one of the rare books that I believe should be on every shelf in every home in America.

It's a masterpiece. It's so good and I'll tell you this. There's a couple of chapters in here that are worth the price of admission alone.

I bought this book and did my best to get a hold of Dr. Attia because I wanted him to be on this show.

I think it's chapter four I go through and I think make the case that that strategy won't work.

it's basically my way of saying I'm not convinced we will solve this problem at the policy level but at a minimum even though it's harder if you want to solve it for yourself than if the system solved it for you we're not going to wait around for the system to solve it you're gonna you're gonna you know here's a playbook for how to solve it yourself

outlive the science and art of longevity is a massive bestseller for very good reason i saw Oprah was raving about it among many other people I think you got to check him out he's just a great dude

he spends a good chunk of the last part of the book about so that's where I go in this interview

I just didn't see a way to do this any other way I didn't I didn't see a way to write about this and not include that awful example

20 years of life extension to a miserable person whether they realize it or not is torture I mean it's a curse

if you haven't figured out these other things it's not only not a blessing it's a curse

his books come out recently and just absolutely crushed out live the science and art of longevity is a massive bestseller for very good reason i saw opera was raving about it among many other people.

check out the new book out live the science in art.

I think the biggest problem I had in 2018 2019 was the tension that existed internally between two things on the one hand there was the understanding that a book about longevity and I always wanted this to be the most comprehensive book on longevity.