Join intellectual phenomenon Dr. Jordan Peterson for enlightening discourse that will change the way you think. This podcast breaks down the dichotomy of life through interviews and lectures that explain how individuals and culture are shaped by values, music, religion, and beyond. It will give you...
Peterson mentioned Tolstoy's A Confession, a hundred-page-long book about his struggle with reason and faith, concluding that he was looking in the wrong place, among intellectuals, and found that everyday people, working men, provided what he was searching for.
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He sort of, he was, I love it. It's like a hundred pages long. You can read it in no time. Yeah, it's a great book.
Episode: 451. Navigating Belief, Skepticism, and the Afterl...
Peterson mentioned Tolstoy's A Confession, a hundred-page-long book about his struggle with reason and faith, concluding that he was looking in the wrong place, among intellectuals, and found that everyday people, working men, provided what he was searching for.
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He sort of, he was, I love it. It's like a hundred pages long. You can read it in no time. Yeah, it's a great book.
This wonderful account of essentially him sort of trying to battle with his reason and his faith.
And he eventually concludes that he was looking in the wrong place. He was looking amongst intellectuals.
And he found that he looked to, I think he sort of, he quite dismissively called them like the simple people and just your everyday person, working man.
Conservatives, Liberals, and the Roots of Our Political Divide
This book was published recently and it is based on research by Dr. Janoff-Bulman about the different moral foundations that underpin liberal and conservative political views. Dr. Janoff-Bulman argues that there are two fundamental moral motivations: protecting from harm and providing for well-being. She suggests that liberals are more likely to focus on social justice and providing for the well-being of the group, while conservatives prioritize social order and protecting the group from harm. She also highlighted that these two moralities are negatively correlated, meaning that people who value social order tend to be less supportive of social justice and vice versa.
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I'm interested in your two major works. I want to talk to you about shattered assumptions and I want to talk to you about the political divide. And I think we'll start with shattered assumptions.
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This book was published recently and it is based on research by Dr. Janoff-Bulman about the different moral foundations that underpin liberal and conservative political views. Dr. Janoff-Bulman argues that there are two fundamental moral motivations: protecting from harm and providing for well-being. She suggests that liberals are more likely to focus on social justice and providing for the well-being of the group, while conservatives prioritize social order and protecting the group from harm. She also highlighted that these two moralities are negatively correlated, meaning that people who value social order tend to be less supportive of social justice and vice versa.
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I'm interested in your two major works. I want to talk to you about shattered assumptions and I want to talk to you about the political divide. And I think we'll start with shattered assumptions.
And the other called The Two Moralities, The Origin and Fall of Right and Left Politics.
And I actually believe that both liberal, liberalism and conservatism are morally based.
This is the one that I, that, you know, was recently published.
And actually that's the one that I, that, you know, was recently published. That's within the last few months as opposed to 30 years ago.
Dr. Peterson expressed his disagreement with the book and the idea of positive illusions. He feels that the idea is dangerous and aligned with terror management theory, suggesting that reality itself is too unbearable to be confronted in its unvarnished form.
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I spent a lot of time looking at Shelly Taylor's work, The Necessity of Positive Illusion.
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Episode: 449. Trauma and the Demolition of Faith | Ronnie J...
Dr. Peterson expressed his disagreement with the book and the idea of positive illusions. He feels that the idea is dangerous and aligned with terror management theory, suggesting that reality itself is too unbearable to be confronted in its unvarnished form.
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I spent a lot of time looking at Shelly Taylor's work, The Necessity of Positive Illusion.
I am not a fan of the idea of positive illusions in the least. I think it's, I think it's one of the most dangerous philosophical ideas ever put forward by academics that, and I know it's aligned with terror management theory too, that we need to, that we need to inhabit a world of something like necessary fiction. It's predicated on the idea that reality itself is so unbearable that if we ever saw it in its unvarnished form, it would demolish us. But, no, I'm not, I'm not there either.
One Woman's Journey Through the Hell of Afghanistan and Back
Kelsi Sheren, a Canadian veteran, shares her experiences serving in Afghanistan, which included intense combat situations, a traumatic brain injury, and post-traumatic stress disorder. The book also delves into her journey of healing and recovery through psychedelics and other holistic therapies, ultimately leading to the creation of Brass & Unity, a jewelry company.
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Kelsi Sheren is CEO of Brass and Unity and author of "Brass and Unity, One Woman's Journey Through the Hell of Afghanistan and Back."
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Episode: 446. War, PTSD, & Psychedelics | Kelsi Sheren
Kelsi Sheren, a Canadian veteran, shares her experiences serving in Afghanistan, which included intense combat situations, a traumatic brain injury, and post-traumatic stress disorder. The book also delves into her journey of healing and recovery through psychedelics and other holistic therapies, ultimately leading to the creation of Brass & Unity, a jewelry company.
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Kelsi Sheren is CEO of Brass and Unity and author of "Brass and Unity, One Woman's Journey Through the Hell of Afghanistan and Back."
I saw that in your book yeah so that followed me till I was 18 I had to see a pediatrician to make sure that my mom wasn't abusing me which was ridiculous right but understand I understand it
It's funny that you say that I had Natalie Eva Marie on the show she's a WWE superstar with pink hair and she's very girly now but we're having this exact conversation because she was the same tear away pants you know slides the whole thing she grew up around boys and I said my god thank god we don't live right now because we would have been put on puberty blockers I would have had my breasts cut off I would have been told I was in the wrong body I would have told that that I wasn't who I thought I was I knew I was a girl I was good at being a girl I grew up cutting and splitting wood that's to me what it meant to just be a girl I could clean the house I could cook and I could cut and split wood so what why can't I do all of that why do I have to be the opposite sex to do those things and so yeah I would be transitioned and it's really tragic
I think it was uh i think i because there was a lot of other things that happened on that one that really compounded it aggressively but uh i think it was more the shock to the system of watching someone die the way i did and then the hatred came in secondary to really compound like just the pain of it yeah
So I went down to this place um called Resiliency Brain Health Center in Dallas Texas they treat army rangers delta operators you know NFL dudes and what had happened was in 2021 from starting up my podcast um I met griff within the first four episodes so I did psychedelics and that carried me through and I integrated that I did psychedelics like I did iowaska again that october and then after that I had some really popular people on the podcast and this organization was like um something's wrong with her eyes and the only reason that happened is because my husband started dying so all while this is happening in coven my husband and I were in the garage and we're watching a joe rogan podcast literally the same pattern of behavior we have every day and I was smoking a joint before bed he'd sit in the garage with me while I we just had this like routine and he looked at me and he goes healthy something's wrong and he grabbed his right side and I did pick my paramedics after I got home from the army and I was like wrong side brod he goes no something's wrong and he stood up and he goes I think I'm dying and he dropped with ground and he just was gone and so talk about move slow again I started screaming we called 911 they put us on hold I said I just got a new tessa let's let's test this thing out so my neighbor came and put him in the car for me and we drove him to the hospital in less than five minutes and the ambulance called and said go pull over beat it I'm gonna get there faster than you canada didn't help canada kept telling us it was mental health it was not mental health my husband was a professional supercross racer he's hit his head more times than he can count but what we're starting to understand about tbi is that they can be delayed he was fine until he wasn't everything started to spiral after that he couldn't get out of bed his depression he started getting suicidal he was losing weight he wasn't functioning he just didn't want to live anymore and he couldn't figure out what was wrong we went to every hospital we did private doctors mri's you name it like it's mental health it's mental health like it's not mental health a friend of mine was on instagram and was like I'm at this brain clinic I have too many head injuries so I voice message him it was a ranger and I was just bawling I said will you help me I don't know what to do can you get them to see my husband this was wednesday we called them they said this is no problem we know what it is he was on a flight and he was there on sunday canada two years nothing nowhere nothing one week texas yeah so we went down there and he was there and they also treat civilians and this was who treats the veterans the resiliency clinic and so this this lovely lady named donna cranson who runs defenders of freedom sat down she goes is your wife calce sharon and he goes uh yes ma'am goes we think she has a tbi her eyes are all messed up on her podcast we'd like to treat her and I was like uh okay and like you know she's canadian like we're gonna get special permission don't worry and they funded the whole thing so they flew me down to texas for two weeks after I did the four by four by 48 with a another charity because goggins likes to make the rest of us suffer and um I went right there right after and I was there for a two-week intensive program and I found out that I not only had a tbi I had dysautonomia in pots and that's one of the reasons I wasn't getting better my vestibular system was completely oak my hormones were a complete nightmare you name it I couldn't tilt my head backwards without my whole body thinking I was sitting upside down I was cautious I was couldn't drive a car I was getting nauseous all the time couldn't be in a you know passenger seat so I did treatment with them and then uh I continued to use things like micro dosing to help not all the time I do regiments eight weeks at a time and then I go off and I integrate um but I still definitely have a tendency when I get depression I don't go as low as I did but I go a little but enough to go okay we need to are we sleeping are we eating right are we moving enough are we having enough water what was I watching was it triggering was it tuck across and all week maybe let's take it let's take a break let's go into something a little lighter and so I started looking at all those things before I go to the next solution and all in that time frame I you know wanted to help veterans differently so we donate 20% of our proceeds from brass and unity I started journaling and writing a book I started this podcast that was kind of taking off and then I was like might as well become a psychedelic integration coach so then I can help these same people that helped me and that's what I did and then now cut to where we are in 2024 where the book came out last year and um I'm healthy and I'm happy and I love myself and I know my worth and I know where I'm going and I have a direction and I am so god damn grateful for the people I have around me because without them I wouldn't have been here and they didn't give up on me our government gives up on everyone else but no one gave up on me and it's only because they didn't get a hold of me in time because if they did I wouldn't be here
Russell Brand recommended this book, calling it a punchy, deadly book that's a real genius, and one of Eliot's best.
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Read the sacred and the profane by mature eliot he was a big influence on cambell too and eliot is a real genius he's a real genius very short book punchy as hell deadly book
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Episode: 444. The Collective Unconscious, Christ, and the C...
Russell Brand recommended this book, calling it a punchy, deadly book that's a real genius, and one of Eliot's best.
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Read the sacred and the profane by mature eliot he was a big influence on cambell too and eliot is a real genius he's a real genius very short book punchy as hell deadly book
he's got about six or seven that are very much worth reading but that's probably top of the list the sacred and the profane
The User Illusion was highly praised for its depth and scientific grounding, as well as its accessibility. It explores consciousness as a reducing function and the relationship between compression, focus, and reduction.
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The User Illusion, Tor Norhtranders book was the best one of the lot, as far as I was concerned. And it taught me a lot.
The User Illusion was highly praised for its depth and scientific grounding, as well as its accessibility. It explores consciousness as a reducing function and the relationship between compression, focus, and reduction.
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The User Illusion, Tor Norhtranders book was the best one of the lot, as far as I was concerned. And it taught me a lot.
I really liked your idea of and let me make sure that I actually get this right. You talked about linguistic communication as a form of unpacking, right? It was like a sequence of compressions.
I think the deep idea behind it actually was in this book, The User Illusion.
I've got a list of recommended books online it's 100 of them and they're books that were you know had a market influence on me and I picked the books very carefully and yours is one of them that user illusion I think that's the best book that is the best book on consciousness I ever read and I read a lot of them so I would recommend that book to anybody who's watching and listening it's it's it's quite the tour de force I thought it was very well grounded scientifically it's very well written it's very accessible and it really helped me think through the relationship between compression and focus and reduction and consciousness and that was useful I'd already been interested in Huxley's idea you know of the reducing valve which you know as as as a function of consciousness trying to think to think that through but you're you elaborated on that made it clear in a way that I I haven't actually seen anyone else do now you know Fristens work and so forth is a nice elaboration of that and I think the same about Gibson but but your book pulled in the linguistic in a way that I thought was extremely original and useful so so for everybody who's watching and listening The User Illusion that's a book I'd highly recommend it it's got a lot to teach you and it's deeper than you might think too because it's an elegant book and it's clearly written and it's so its depth is somewhat hidden which is also the mark of a master author right
Watson's book explored supernatural phenomena, and in it, he used the example of a frog egg requiring asymmetry, not necessarily DNA, from sperm to become an embryo. This was said to be a reduction similar to how consciousness works.
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I read in a book many years ago by Lyle Watson, a British biologist who's most famous for his book Super Nature that he wrote in the late 70s I think. He's very interested in supernatural phenomenon a...
Watson's book explored supernatural phenomena, and in it, he used the example of a frog egg requiring asymmetry, not necessarily DNA, from sperm to become an embryo. This was said to be a reduction similar to how consciousness works.
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I read in a book many years ago by Lyle Watson, a British biologist who's most famous for his book Super Nature that he wrote in the late 70s I think. He's very interested in supernatural phenomenon and that's what I find personally most interesting but he's very interested in that and he has one fantastic example in that book and that is if you have the egg of a frog and the egg to become a new frog needs the sperm from the male frog and it turns out it doesn't really need the DNA from the sperm. What it needs is the asymmetry introduced by the sperm moving towards the egg so it's more like the moment that you introduce the asymmetry into the spherical egg, this is the point, then the egg will reorganize and become a very small embryo for a frog.
Huxley's book discussed the effects of mescaline and its ability to open the mind. This was referenced by Tor Nrretranders in relation to psychedelic research.
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I think all this Hoxley in this book uh dolls of perception from the 50s of 60s that I quote uh in in the user illusion book uh he uh he used mescaline I think it was yeah it was mescaline and talked...
Huxley's book discussed the effects of mescaline and its ability to open the mind. This was referenced by Tor Nrretranders in relation to psychedelic research.
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I think all this Hoxley in this book uh dolls of perception from the 50s of 60s that I quote uh in in the user illusion book uh he uh he used mescaline I think it was yeah it was mescaline and talked about this this opening of of the mind and and by many of course he's seen us sort of a very early bird in what's happening now these years with the psychedelics and the studies of how psychedelics will will change the outlook of human beings on the world and allow them to take in different kind of information and and perhaps very much and palfristin by the way is involved in some of that also yeah yeah and it people talk about this psychedelic revolution going on right now which will have a huge impact on many of the uh the the problems people have with their with anxiety and with depression and so on because it will open the mind and it gives sort of a direct attention and I think the problem with modern civilization in many ways is that we are so obsessed with predicting everything and making everything straight line and and and dependable and not being irritated by anything no rain no wind no interruptions that our mind sort of falls asleep in a sense and and everything is like the prediction we come with and we need some somehow to sort of refresh uh our sensory input from time to time and I think there are many ways to to do that uh psychedelics is certainly one physical exercise is another meditation is another uh there are many ways to sort of get around your everyday reduction of the world
This book, published in 2021, challenged 11 widely held claims of environmental disaster, including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, and nuclear energy, arguing that they are based on fake news and fake science.
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"Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" (Book)
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Episode: 439. Microplastics, Global Greening, & the Dangers...
This book, published in 2021, challenged 11 widely held claims of environmental disaster, including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, and nuclear energy, arguing that they are based on fake news and fake science.
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"Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" (Book)
In 2021 Dr. Moore published "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" exposing the fake news and fake science around 11 claims of disaster including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, nuclear energy, and more.
This book was mentioned to illustrate the concept of needing jurisdictions and borders to prevent overexploitation of shared resources, such as overfishing in the oceans.
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Did you read the book The Tragedy of the Commons by Garrett Hartness?
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Episode: 439. Microplastics, Global Greening, & the Dangers...
This book was mentioned to illustrate the concept of needing jurisdictions and borders to prevent overexploitation of shared resources, such as overfishing in the oceans.
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Did you read the book The Tragedy of the Commons by Garrett Hartness?
This book was mentioned multiple times throughout the podcast, including in the introduction, as well as in the definition of the religious domain as a "vowed belief in a supernatural agent or agents whose approval is to be sought".
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And I was reviewing your book today, Breaking the Spell.
— Episode: 438. Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Et...
Episode: 438. Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Ethics, & Pl...
This book was mentioned multiple times throughout the podcast, including in the introduction, as well as in the definition of the religious domain as a "vowed belief in a supernatural agent or agents whose approval is to be sought".
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And I was reviewing your book today, Breaking the Spell.
And that was a definition that I took from Breaking the Spell.
Dr. Dennett referenced the book in a passage about the nature of trust in the human world, contrasting it with the lack of trust among chimpanzees.
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I like the way Paul Seabright has put this in his book the uh uh in The Company of Strangers if you put a whole lot of unrelated chimpanzees in a large room together they would be ter...
— Episode: 438. Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Et...
Episode: 438. Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Ethics, & Pl...
Dr. Dennett referenced the book in a passage about the nature of trust in the human world, contrasting it with the lack of trust among chimpanzees.
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I like the way Paul Seabright has put this in his book the uh uh in The Company of Strangers if you put a whole lot of unrelated chimpanzees in a large room together they would be terrified they would be screaming and they would be unable to sit there calmly and I sometimes point this out when I'm in a large auditorium and there's hundreds of people none of them related I said is anybody here scared to death no no no we're not we're we trust each other that human trust is the key to civilization and to science and it's under attack right now with artificial intelligence and misrepresentation and the the technologies of misrepresentation which are eroding trust in a very serious way
Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard, Book 3. 'Exclusive' B&N Edition (ISBN 9781368021500), w/Viking Insult Generator. 1st Edition, 1st Printing
The podcast host, Jordan Peterson, discussed a book in progress by Bret Weinstein called *We Who Ressel With God*. The book is an analysis of foundational narratives that explore the pattern of radical reciprocity in society.
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I'm finishing up a book at the moment called *We Who Ressel With God*, and it's an elaborated analysis of the proclivity of foundational narratives to encode that pattern of radical reciprocity and to...
— Episode: 434. The Darien Gap & Postmodernism | Br...
Episode: 434. The Darien Gap & Postmodernism | Bret Weinste...
The podcast host, Jordan Peterson, discussed a book in progress by Bret Weinstein called *We Who Ressel With God*. The book is an analysis of foundational narratives that explore the pattern of radical reciprocity in society.
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I'm finishing up a book at the moment called *We Who Ressel With God*, and it's an elaborated analysis of the proclivity of foundational narratives to encode that pattern of radical reciprocity and to expand its purview and its depth of representation across time.
Now I'm finishing up a book at the moment called *We Who Ressel With God*, and it's an elaborated analysis of the proclivity of foundational narratives to encode that pattern of radical reciprocity and to expand its purview and its depth of representation across time.
Rob Henderson's memoir, Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family and Social Class, detailed his tumultuous upbringing in the California foster care system, his transformation through the military, and his journey to Yale and Cambridge. It described his observations of family fragmentation and the impact of 'luxury beliefs' on those from disadvantaged backgrounds.
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I just reread your book, Troubled a memoir of foster care family and social class last week. And I found some topics that I'd really like to zero in on. But the first thing I'd like t...
— Episode: 429. The Psychology of Social Status and...
Episode: 429. The Psychology of Social Status and Class | R...
Rob Henderson's memoir, Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family and Social Class, detailed his tumultuous upbringing in the California foster care system, his transformation through the military, and his journey to Yale and Cambridge. It described his observations of family fragmentation and the impact of 'luxury beliefs' on those from disadvantaged backgrounds.
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I just reread your book, Troubled a memoir of foster care family and social class last week. And I found some topics that I'd really like to zero in on. But the first thing I'd like to know is how is when exactly was your book published and how is it doing?
It was published February 20th. So as of this conversation just a few days ago, I think it's doing well.
I hit some strange obstacles on the way. Initially my publisher and I thought we'd do some kind of a mini book tour, maybe visit some bookstores, do some book signings. And that ended up not going through which was really disappointing for me.
I write in the book about the importance of responsibility taken control of your life.
And I describe luxury beliefs and point out some of the hypocrisy of the elites.
The book was mentioned in the context of explaining the challenges involved in nuclear fusion, particularly the enormous forces needed to overcome the electromagnetic repulsion between hydrogen particles.
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So there's actually an Arthur Seak, which one was it? I think 2010, right?
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The book was mentioned in the context of explaining the challenges involved in nuclear fusion, particularly the enormous forces needed to overcome the electromagnetic repulsion between hydrogen particles.
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So there's actually an Arthur Seak, which one was it? I think 2010, right?
