The Bald and the Beautiful with Trixie and Katya

Sometimes dead is better.

And there's a lot about death. And part of what makes that book so horrifying is that it's really just people being confronted with the reality of like the, the not guaranteedness of life.

Yeah. The son dies in that book.

Somebody, the neighbor's wife dies, the cat dies.

In the book, obviously it's about the question of, well, we know that if we bury someone in this, they will come back. Of course, they'll come back wrong. Right. But how bad do I miss this person? Even if they come back wrong, how much would just having them in my life be better than having them not at all?

I watched Eat Pray Love this morning and I cried

You know, I'm such a fan of yours as like a follower of your work, but I took the deep dive of actually preparing for an interview because I really care about your book. Tell the kids about your book.

Thank you. Yeah, my book "Loud". I'm very excited about her. It's Loud except nothing less than the life you deserve. That's the subtitle. My team was like, make sure you say the subtitle too, because I'm just going, yeah, Loud. Anyways,

the viewers like, bitch, we know you're Loud. They're like, are you just talking about yourself? Oh, nice. It's also ironic that this is the first piece of media you're making where they don't have to hear your voice and you're like, I'm still Loud. Yeah, you're silently reading a written word and you're going to feel like I'm yelling.

As you fucking should. It's really exciting though. I'm very excited for it. I think people are going to love. I'm excited for it too, because I saw that you broke it up into some different sections.

Yeah, so it's like, it's more so it goes in waves. It almost like starts from like when I was younger and then builds to where I am now. And so that was kind of like the flow that we understood. But it was, it's, it's kind of in pieces. It's very anecdotal talks a pull for a lot from my life experiences and a lot of funny stories in there being me being fucking mean to men.

It's deceptively hard to write. They are. What was hard for you about writing a book?

Um, I think for my book in particular, the hardest part was like being vulnerable because there are certain stories, like there are a couple of stories in the book that I've never talked about publicly.

And when I first wrote them, I felt like I was giving a very like PR canned version of it. And one of my editors was like, Hey, I think, I think you could push a little more. I think you can open up a little bit more.

Um, just give me, give me more details. Like it's okay to open up a little, you might be surprised on how it comes out. So he was like, we can always go like wind it down if it's a little too much.

If it's a little, you don't talk about anything you don't want to, but I feel like you could give me just a little bit more. And so I was like, okay, like those two stories, honestly, I wrote about multiple times because I was struggling to be more vulnerable, but I've talked about how the book I feel like is very therapeutic in a lot of ways. And those two particular stories were very, very. Like helpful for me to be honest and more open about it.

And so I think I struck the right chord, but that was definitely the hardest part. I think other than the title, shockingly, the title was the hardest part to nail down and it took the longest.

I mean, other than the actual writing, but which is shocking because my original pitch was, it's actually the chapter. It's actually the name of a chapter in my book, but I wanted it to be the title of my book. And it was, I'd rather die alone.

That's what I wanted to title it. They said it was a little too, they said it was a little too negative. And like, I, I wrote, I wrote so hard. Somebody picks up your book and goes, I'll just take the dogs and get out of here. That bitch.

Okay. Wow. I'm like, well, your sister jumps off the tour bus. They're like, bye bitch. Have a nice day. Like everyone's like fine bitch. That was another reason why when we talked through it, we were like, I don't think this is as encompassing as we would like it to be.

Right. But I was thinking in the same vein as like Jeanette McCurdy's book, which is like, I'm glad my mom died. It's like, that's not necessarily true, but it's like catchy.

It's bitey and it's also applicable to what she's talking about. So that was my understanding of a title, but thankfully we picked a better title, I think. And now that gets to live as a chapter title, which is better for me, but I think it worked out for the best, but the title was pretty difficult to come up with. I'm just proud. I came up with it.

I like an inflammatory title and Loud still kind of probes. Absolutely. It would have been crazy to be like, my eyes are up here.

The duo follow story. Like, it's like what? Or like, you know, I like the idea of like a catchy title, but I do get that. That was a little dark. That's what they told me. I was like, especially with after having written the whole thing and the manuscript and everything, even my editor was like, I think that this title works in better context after you read it.

Like after you read it, you're like, oh, that makes sense because it's like satirical in its very nature. And he's like, but that's not like what you want a title to be. And I was like, all right, I guess I'll trust you man who works in publishing for 20 years. Guess I'll trust you.

I'm excited to read it.

And I think other people are going to be excited to read it because I think people on the internet, they look at you and they look at the way you like process the world, deflect the right things, embrace the right things. Yeah.

You're like, you know, and you see through the bullshit and you just seem so strong. Thank you. And I feel like people are going to want to know in that section how you got there. Yeah.

That's I think the biggest, like the biggest thing that people are dying to understand is how I got to this point. That's why they'll ask me questions like did like just a million men fuck you over and that's why you're like this. No, no, no, not quite.

But I did. I have had many a bad experience with men, but that's just because I'm a human living in the world. Unfortunately, that experience is not exclusive to me. Believe it or not. Many people have had poor experiences. I'm going to tell you this.

Men are dogs and liars and that's on period. Men are dogs and liars. They surely are. Drew's book, men are dogs and liars. My eyes are up here as if they don't know where to find you. Can you tell the kids where to find you on the internet?

Oh my gosh. Yes. You can find me at Drew Offwallow on literally everything. And then if you're interested about my book, you can go to Drew-Offwallow.com and all the info's there. But that's in my bio too. So just go follow me.

What My Bones Know by Stephanie Fu. It's about complex PTSD.

I love what my What My Bones Know.

I read this book called The Collected Schizophrenia and there's this delusion that you can have where like you feel like your loved ones have been replaced with doubles.

Is it like The Velvet Rage for, no.

Because We Are Bad.

I did do Unwell Women.

It's about like medical discrimination against women throughout history.

That Jewel album, Pieces of You.

I like was 13, 14, started playing guitar. Listen to that record.

That record, I learned this on Wikipedia, is one of the most successful acoustic albums of all time because most of those are live recordings of her just playing at a bar.

And that's an album that was on the charts and they're not even very professionally done, but she's so good.

She's so good. The singing, the lyrics. It's amazing.

Well, um, did you ever read Michelle's book, the Dever rolls?

She talks about being a seduction.

And I mean, that was an era where for young pop girls, the music contract she was signed into was, and this is like open news. I'm not like spilling it.

It was so predatory that she tore it with seduction for two years.

And I think in the book she said maybe she made a thousand dollars a month.

RuPaul is on her Sydney press got Out of Darkness.

I would say like I don't know the white lady from Touch By an Angel the Irish woman.

Oh Jane Seymour.

Amanda Lepore's book Doll Parts.

I'm currently reading Stephen King's The Long Walk.

It's kind of like the AIDS walk.

And they walk across America and people are like clapping like a parade. And if they slow down at all, they get shot.

If you love Fiona Apple, the album Extraordinary Machine worked me out. How about the Apple? How about the Apple? How about the album title that she wrote when she was 19, 18?

Well, okay. So Adulting is a book that was published literally 10 years ago, 15 years ago.

Oh, that was real? Kelly Williams Brown.

And then no, Kelly Williams Brown.

And then she wrote Gracious.

And guess what? I was featured in that in Gracious.

I'm surprised. I live in Spain. Why are we in this book?

On Ellen, what you gave away, uh, Jennifer Love Hewitt's book.

She, I on the van Zandt, the fix my life lady, the one who says not on my watch, not on my watch. She had a book her, I think her debut book is what is One Day My Soul Just Opened Up. One day my hole just opened up.