Pod Save America

I think he wrote a book.

I just read her book when we're on our plane by the way, and it's actually a really interesting read and it's very digestible.

We're reading The Odyssey.

Well it actually is better because I actually bought with my own money and I'm a teacher so what I do, I bought a graphic novel of The Odyssey and it's beautiful, it's full-color and kids just get right into it.

I read Omnivore's Dilemma 20 years ago.

Perhaps you've read his excellent book, Trying Trump.

She's the host of Inside with Jen Psaki at MSNBC and the author of a new book, which I'm holding up. Say More. Thank you. Lessons from Work, The White House, and the World. Thank you.

He does have a new book out. Norm is just a nerdy. And I mean that in the best way possible. I love nerds. I live in Washington DC. They're my neighbors and my friends. He'll be great.

I know from the years I spent on campaign buses and foreign capitals and in the Oval Office that there's always more to a story under the surface.

You write about the first time you met President Obama, then Senator Obama. How'd it go?

I talk about that in the book too. That is not how people make decisions. They make decisions by emotions and how you make them feel.

Let's talk about your book, Say More, Lessons from Work, the White House and the World, because it has tons and tons of fun stories from your time in politics that I think this audience is going to love.

Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail, Hunter S. Thompson's book about 1972. Presidential Campaign is the book that every political reporter has read and they have all styled their lives after, you know, at least the most recent, not the current generation, the most recent generation of political reporters where they're out there, they're at the campaign, they're at the bar at night, the hard drinking, hard living political reporter all comes from that.

And when I was writing the book, I was filled with the anxiety of writing a book about contemporary politics because things change very quickly.

And if you read that book, you will find an area mention of Barack Obama who does not appear once in that book as an example of just how quickly things change.

Well, the paperback is out. I hate to say this, John, but Trumpism has outlasted Trump and Democrats still trumped America is still Trump's.

And the book contains in it some very specific actionable items for readers about how they can help make those things happen.

So if you did not get a chance to read it when I was on hardback or if you just want to read it again, because it has a new epilogue that talks about the 2020 election and where we go from here on trumping America, a plan to make America a democracy again is available where we get your books these days. Go buy it, people go buy it.

What's it, Vivek Ramaswamy, who was also there, who's running for president based on his book. Anti-woke platform.

I was reading Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman, which is an old book, but incredibly, it's still relevant, like shockingly relevant.

This is also when I do my periodic Somewhat annoying plea to remind people that my book is coming out on June 19th.

Yes, we still can it is available on Amazon Burns & Noble, Indiebound, everywhere where you get your books and yes, we still can pre-order the book

So if you don't buy the book, I will assume you're comfortable with Republicans controlling all levers of government in 2019

Hail Mary by Andy Weir. I think it's the guy who wrote that. That's Hail Mary. Project Hail Mary. It's really fun. I won't even tell you what it's about. Don't tell you, you just gotta read it.

here to help us understand what all of this means, former U.S. attorney, current host of the Stay Tuned podcast and the author of the new book, Doing Justice, a Prosecutor's Thoughts on Crime, Punishment and the Rule of Law, Preet Bharara.

by the way, might I indulge in a brief reference to my book because I talk about sort of how the system works and how prosecutors think about these things.

The book is Doing Justice, a prosecutor's thoughts on crime, punishment and the rule of law. Go buy it.

He did a good job selling his book on the show, but we can do a better job, all right? We've got to buy Preet Bharara's book, right?

Every copy of Preet Bharara's book you buy is money people didn't spend on one of those killing Lincoln books.

Also, you have a great memoir out, Small Acts of Courage. It's fantastic. You and Ben talked about it in more detail on Pod Save the World. If folks want to hear more, people should buy that.

You wrote what I think is one of the most important books written about politics in a very long time called Dark Money where you chronicle how conservative money primarily from the Koch brothers has influenced politics.