My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

Harold, before he fell asleep, was reading Dante's Divine Comedy, a little light reading.

midway upon the journey of our life within a dark for nope within a forest dark for the straightforward path had been lost.

Harold, before he fell asleep, was reading Dante's Divine Comedy, a little light reading.

midway upon the journey of our life within a dark for nope within a forest dark for the straightforward path had been lost.

Julia Cameron is the person who did the to die list and she's an author who wrote the artists way which Lizzie is obsessed with.

I just remembered my mom gave me the artist way when I moved to LA.

It's just one of those books that's always in the thing and I've never read it and I'm going to do it.

Julia Cameron is the person who did the to die list and she's an author who wrote the artists way which Lizzie is obsessed with.

Yeah, the artist way.

I just remembered my mom gave me the artist way when I moved to LA.

It's just one of those books that's always in the thing and I've never read it and I'm going to do it.

My sister got this book delivered to the house, opened the box and goes, 'here, you can read it first.'

Oprah has this new book she wrote with a research neurologist...and it's called 'What Happened to You? Conversations on Trauma, Resilience and Healing.'

And this is the guy, Bruce Perry was the guy who started the trauma conversation back when no one knew what that was.

And it's basically his studies talking about when stuff happens to kids, everyone loves to talk about kids being so resilient and blah blah blah, but actually if you're traumatized in specific ways and in certain ways, it actually affects your brain chemistry. It affects your brain makeup.

And it's just a fast...and it's written like a conversation. You'd love, you would love it. I know you'd love it.

So aside from The Radium Girls by Kate Moore, there's two books that I fucking adore that have some of this info and if you're into this shit, more.

The book, The Radium Girls, The Dark Story of America's Shining Women by Kate Moore.

Well, and here's why I was excited because I've read the book Starvation Heights by Greg Olson, which is one of my main sources.

If you haven't read this book, Starvation Heights by Greg to G's Olson with an E, you have to read it because this story, I can't get into all the details of this, the experiences of the people who went to Starvation Heights.

It's so nuts and it has everything. This story has everything. It's because she's basically a cult leader, but then it also is like weird eating disorder issues and weird kind of, I have these problems and I'm going to decide this will solve everything and I'll commit to it even past the point where it's okay.

Really gross stuff about the place itself.

I swear, that Starvation Heights book is fascinating. I started it.

Yeah, oh, okay, good fucking pick.

Well, and here's why I was excited because I've read the book Starvation Heights by Greg Olson, which is one of my main sources.

If you haven't read this book, Starvation Heights by Greg to G's Olson with an E, you have to read it because this story, I can't get into all the details of this, the experiences of the people who went to Starvation Heights. It's so nuts.

I swear, that Starvation Heights book is fascinating. I started it.

There's so much more stuff that's so creepy. Really gross stuff about the place itself.

If you're in high school, that was Mark David Chapman.

Yes, because he's the one that shot John Lennon.

Right. And he had John Lennon sign Catcher in the Rye.

Which is just like, all right, calm down. I mean, Jesus, like, come on.

If you're in high school, that was Mark David Chapman.

Yes, because he's the one that shot John Lennon.

Right. And he had John Lennon sign Catcher in the Rye.

Oliver Twist. Yeah. Great Expectations. My favorite. And a Christmas Herald.

I was able to secure our group tickets to a local production of A Christmas Carol that was putting on a special matinee for elementary students.

We arrived at one of the seminal moments in Ebenezer Scrooge's moral arc, the graveyard scene. Scrooge encounters his own tombstone under the bony finger of the ghost of Christmas future, played by an actor dressed in a Grim Reaper style hood and cape.

I wrote down the People Who Eat Darkness. That's not it. That is actually a really good book about a Japanese serial killer go listen to that.

I wrote down the People Who Eat Darkness. That's not it. That is actually a really good book about a Japanese serial killer go listen to that.

He wrote So You've Been Publicly Shamed, which is all about social media thing.

He wrote So You've Been Publicly Shamed, which is all about social media thing.

So there I was armed with my backpack full of goosebump books and a bag with my bowling ball, which my grandmother had insisted I bring since she was involved with multiple bowling leagues and headed on a connecting flight.

I went from sharing lip gloss with her to reading her name in a murder headline to think I thought the biggest crime she'd ever commit was stealing a Goosebumps book.

Yes. Sexual psychopaths. Yeah. Right. You know who's read that book?

He never got past Chapter one. Sorry, Stephen.

It's like the fucking it's like the psychology of sexuality, sexual psychopaths.

Furious Hours by Casey Sepp will tell you this story in such unbelievably beautiful detail, along with all that information about Harper Lee and the life she led, which was fascinating.

And then I read it was like totally to the story's crazy. And then it turns out Harper Lee, the author of To Kill a Mockingbird was totally interested and fascinated by stories who did a ton of research on it, which is now completely lost.

Furious Hours by?

Casey Sepp.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's such a good book.

The book I'm reading right now...for book club, it's called Furious Hours, Murder, Fraud and the Last Trial of Harper Lee.

And it's so, you know, Harper Lee wrote To Kill a Mockingbird...and then she helped Trima Capote write in Cold Blood and research it and stuff.

And then this was basically it's about how she came back to her home state and maybe even a hometown because I'm on Chapter two to cover this trial.

Over Memorial Day weekend, I went to my family's house and my dad handed me a stack of super rad vintage true crime novels.

In the collection of books was his annotated copies of about the Hillside Strangler, Bundy, Blind Hunter and a bunch of others.

Over Memorial Day weekend, I went to my family's house and my dad handed me a stack of super rad vintage true crime novels.

In the collection of books was his annotated copies of about the Hillside Strangler, Bundy, Blind Hunter and a bunch of others.

And it's a story about this murder. Okay. Okay. Here we go. This murder in dirty Jers.

And it's a story about this murder.

And it's a story about this murder. Okay. Okay. Here we go. This murder in dirty Jers.

Okay. And it's a story about this murder.

Willy Wonka and chocolate and the Chocolate Factory is that the name of the movie? Charlie whatever. There's a few variety. We know what you're talking about.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which did what did you guys want to eat the most like what was the wallpaper the wallpaper? But you only look at the wallpapers. You just wanted to lick taste the wallpaper.

Yeah. Well, I think it's kind of what you were talking about Karen of like I always like scratch and sniff stuff was like that for me. Like I always wanted to eat my scratch and sniff markers and stuff like that.

So to me the wallpaper was like the closest the closest thing to that.

Yeah, that makes sense. I think I always when he has that buttercup when they're in the chocolate room. Yeah, he drinks out of it. He drinks it and then he bites it and then he bites it. That's it. That's really that was totally it for me Barb to where the first time I saw him do that and the look on his face. I was just like could you imagine if you could eat tea cups like in the weirdest like as if that was what I'd been dreaming of all my life or just like you don't even drink tea. What do you why are you this excited?

In true dad lore fashion, it slipped that quote the body and its screen adaptation Stand By Me are based off him and his friends.

In true dad lore fashion, it slipped that quote the body and its screen adaptation Stand By Me are based off him and his friends.

someone named Rachel Dukes from mixtape comics sent me a tweet that says as someone who loves cults and comics, I can't recommend this anthology enough. The stories are fascinating and the artwork is gorgeous.

There used to be a series called the Big Book of and it was like the big book of vice, the big book of death, the big book of whatever.

as someone who loves cults and comics, I can't recommend this anthology enough. The stories are fascinating and the artwork is gorgeous.

I will say this just from my perspective as I read Helter Skelter way too young. The LaBianca murders are very prominent in my mind.

And I understand what they mean that there is like, that's the gross part about the true crime is the fame element. And there anytime they can, anytime like the media or any of us, if you pull a good story through, that's the thing that that goes first and foremost.

But I remember when I read Helter Skelter, it really does strike you how horrifyingly random and tragic it is that they just lived along the way.

I will say this just from my perspective as I read Helter Skelter way too young. The LaBianca murders are very prominent in my mind.

And I understand what they mean that there is like, that's the gross part about the true crime is the fame element. And there anytime they can, anytime like the media or any of us, if you pull a good story through, that's the thing that that goes first and foremost.

But I remember when I read Helter Skelter, it really does strike you how horrifyingly random and tragic it is that they just lived along the way.

I am listening to the audio book for American Gods by Neil Gaiman, which I've listened to before. And I just it's such a nice distraction. It's like a fairy tale. It's like a dark fairy tale almost. I highly recommend it.

American Gods. Yes. It's called American fucking.