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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. P...

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Here (Pantheon Graphic Library)

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Two Guys, Five Rings: Matt + Bowen at the Olympics in Milan

This was mentioned as Mariah Carey's latest album, from which she performed the song "Nothing Is Impossible" during the opening ceremony.

And then she sang her song. nothing is impossible. And we actually agreed in our seats that nothing was. And it's off of her latest album, Here For It All, which we were there for it all.

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What you think of me is none of my business by Terry Cole-Whittaker (1979-05-03)

Terry Cole‐Whittaker

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"Rode Hard And Put Away Wet" (w/ Will Ferrell & Harper Steele)

Will Ferrell mentioned that his mother had a self-help book with this title on her shelf, and that the book's message was his mantra as a child and while traveling across the country with Harper.

Here's a book that my mom literally had a self-help book on her shelf. Called It's None of My Business What You Think of Me.

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It Ends with Us

Colleen Hoover

Mentioned 1 year ago

"An Attack On Leos" (w/ Matt, Bowen & Friends)

It was mentioned that the book is famous, but a sequel was supposed to be in the works, and it doesn't seem like it's happening anymore because of the drama surrounding it.

but see that this is the thing it's like the behavior effects the work so much yeah so yeah well well that's the summer that's the summer i think we will earnestly start

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Princess Cupcake Jones and the Missing Tutu (Princess Cupcake Jones Series)

Ylleya Fields

Mentioned 1 year ago

"An Attack On Leos" (w/ Matt, Bowen & Friends)

It was compared to the plot of a theme park ride where a lot of musicians have to play a big show.

You know, that's like actually the plot of Princess Tauties by you dip. It's like we have to get a lot of musicians to play a big show. It's like okay, cool. This is a theme park ride right?

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It's Not That Complicated

Ari Parker

Mentioned 1 year ago

"An Attack On Leos" (w/ Matt, Bowen & Friends)

It was mentioned that if you read her book, you would know that she had tougher relationships with her mother and sister, who both passed away recently.

if you read her book you know those were tougher relationships and sometimes social in months that are the most difficult to lose so i really hope she's okay and i didn't mean to make light at that

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I'm Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself

Glynnis MacNicol

Mentioned 1 year ago

"White, Fair and Blessed" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

They briefly mentioned "I'm Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself" as a memoir about seeking pleasure in middle age by author and podcaster Glynis McNicol.

Like a recent episode with author and podcaster Glynis McNicol on her new memoir, "I'm Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself."

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Red, White & Royal Blue

Casey McQuiston

Mentioned 1 year ago

"Toxically Benevolent" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

It was mentioned as the book written by Casey McQuiston, who also wrote the audio mystery podcast, "Does This Murder Make Me Look Gay?".

From the writer of Amazon Prime's Red, White and Royal Blue comes a hilarious and demented new audio mystery.

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Mean Boys

Geoffrey Mak

Mentioned 1 year ago

"Toxically Benevolent" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

The book, Mean Boys, was mentioned in relation to the concept of culture and politics flowing downhill from culture, and it was suggested that it might be worth exploring the themes of the book further.

And actually kind of on face value, it kind of speaks to Mean Boys a little bit, too, because that book is a lot about how culture, about politics flows downhill from culture, like and just about like interesting things to think about as of late.

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Status and Culture

W. David Marx

Mentioned 1 year ago

"Toxically Benevolent" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

It was mentioned in the context of a timetable about how evaluations of certain trends change over time, using Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill as an example. The book, Status and Culture, explores how our desire for social rank creates taste, identity, art, fashion and constant change.

So he has a timetable in there for how long it takes for something.

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The School of Life

The School of Life

Mentioned 1 year ago

"Good Walz" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Bowen recommended it for people to look up on YouTube, they were mentioned to have made books and videos on subjects like early bedtimes and simplified lifestyles.

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Zuri the Zebra and the Rainbow Race for Kindness (S.H.I.N.E.'s Kindness Adventures Book 2)

Kaitlyn Vasilko

Mentioned 1 year ago

"Good Walz" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

It was mentioned as a seminal standup album by Gabe Liedman, containing jokes about algorithms before they were a common topic.

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Fifty Shades of Grey 10th Anniversary Edition (Fifty Shades of Grey Series, 1)

E L James

Mentioned 1 year ago

"Good Walz" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

It was referenced during a discussion about Kamala Harris's running mate selection, with a humorous comparison to the book's themes of dominance and submission.

Ding dong last culture is calling back at the table back at the Fifty Shades table

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The Princeton Review

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Casey wore an old Halloween costume with a jumpsuit and an SAT prep book to relate to Felicity Huffman's experience.

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I'm so happy to be here, but I am wearing a jumpsuit that last Halloween I pulled out two seconds before my kids started trick-or-treating. I took a piece of tape, I wrote 'Felicity Huffman inmate' wh...

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Casey wore an old Halloween costume with a jumpsuit and an SAT prep book to relate to Felicity Huffman's experience.

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I'm so happy to be here, but I am wearing a jumpsuit that last Halloween I pulled out two seconds before my kids started trick-or-treating. I took a piece of tape, I wrote 'Felicity Huffman inmate' whatever, and I got an SAT prep book and I walked out.

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Betty Gilpin

All the Women in My Brain

And Other Concerns

It was described as a life-affirming memoir that was beautiful, funny, and thoughtful. The audiobook was also recommended for its reading by the author.

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I told our guests the second I finished it, I clapped to no one in a dressing room by myself. I clapped and I feel like it's the most life-affirming memoir I've read maybe ever.

— Episode: “Piccolo & Bassoon” (w/ Betty Gilpin)

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Episode: “Piccolo & Bassoon” (w/ Betty Gilpin)

It was described as a life-affirming memoir that was beautiful, funny, and thoughtful. The audiobook was also recommended for its reading by the author.

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I told our guests the second I finished it, I clapped to no one in a dressing room by myself. I clapped and I feel like it's the most life-affirming memoir I've read maybe ever.

Readers, when we say this is canon, this is something you have to go read.

Every time a chapter ended, I had to close the book and cry like three single tears to myself, which is different than crying three single tears.

I showed them the cover and I'm like, they're like, give me that after you're done. I'm like, yes, and now it's promised to two gays.

You must download the audiobook as well because to hear it being read is crazy.

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NO FUCKS GIVEN T-Shirt T-Shirt

It was suggested as a potential title for a book about Britney Spears, referencing her carefree attitude and fashion choices, particularly regarding footwear.

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No shoes. No fucks to give. Title of that.

— Episode: "Off Book, On The Record" (w/ Cody Rigsb...

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Episode: "Off Book, On The Record" (w/ Cody Rigsby)

It was suggested as a potential title for a book about Britney Spears, referencing her carefree attitude and fashion choices, particularly regarding footwear.

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No shoes. No fucks to give. Title of that.

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Robert Greene

The Art of Seduction

It was mentioned as Michelle Visage's book where she describes her experience in the girl group Seduction. The group toured for two years with major hits and festivals, but she received nothing in the end.

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She's best friends with all these drag queens and I don't even know we don't have that kind of friendship and I gotta have something to talk to her about so I'm gonna read her book.

— Episode: "A Gay Hustler Who Murders People" (w/ T...

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It was mentioned as Michelle Visage's book where she describes her experience in the girl group Seduction. The group toured for two years with major hits and festivals, but she received nothing in the end.

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She's best friends with all these drag queens and I don't even know we don't have that kind of friendship and I gotta have something to talk to her about so I'm gonna read her book.

Um and I like she's in Seduction which toured for like two years major hits giant festivals and she's in such a bad contract with this girl group that she literally tours for two years with and leaves with nothing no money nothing she has her masters.

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Jenny Slate

Marcel the Shell with Shoes On

Things About Me

It was described as an adorable, inventive, and heartwarming film that was universally enjoyed. It expanded on the original shorts and book, focusing on themes of family, change, and loss.

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Marcel is the most adorable creature that's ever lived and everything that Marcel says touches the heart but the way that this was done was so inventive and great.

— Episode: "A Briny Nothing That's Just for Luxury"...

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It was described as an adorable, inventive, and heartwarming film that was universally enjoyed. It expanded on the original shorts and book, focusing on themes of family, change, and loss.

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Marcel is the most adorable creature that's ever lived and everything that Marcel says touches the heart but the way that this was done was so inventive and great.

It's just so wonderful. Like who's so good who can poke who would want to like poke a hole in it or whatever?

It's about like possibility. It's about like it's about like it's after it's not just one couple that breaks up It's two couples that break up that sort of like set these things in motion.

It doesn't try to be for children It ends up being for everyone and I actually think that kids could enjoy this movie because it reminds me of like You know the way that like, you know Toy Story is an animated movie but the things are extremely universal.

It's a specific thing and that you Marcel the Shell with Shoes On you'd be like if you didn't know what it was And you saw what it was you'd be like, oh that looks odd And then when you watch it, it's actually quite a simple story about finding your family.

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Maggie Adams

Something's Gotta Give

A Tempered Steel Novel (Tempered Steel Series Book 3)

It was discussed as a source of inspiration for the heartbreak elements in 'Fire Island', particularly the scene where Diane Keaton's character decides to sleep in a separate bed from Jack Nicholson's.

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Like oh, I love like in terms of like the heart like playing the heartbreak of it. I was just like, okay, like it's It's it's Erica. It's like it's Diane Keaton Like realizing that like like walking a...

— Episode: “I Am Stunning and I Will Survive” (w/ J...

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It was discussed as a source of inspiration for the heartbreak elements in 'Fire Island', particularly the scene where Diane Keaton's character decides to sleep in a separate bed from Jack Nicholson's.

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Like oh, I love like in terms of like the heart like playing the heartbreak of it. I was just like, okay, like it's It's it's Erica. It's like it's Diane Keaton Like realizing that like like walking away from Jack Nicholson in the house being like, 'oh we should sleep in separate beds' Like that is such a good scene to me.

So like she's so like blah blah blah blah blah blah. Like she's she's so oh my god. She's she's off the page She's off the page Totally is so good in that movie.

Where Diane Keaton is playing the playwright and like she makes writing look if there's some similarity between Erica Barry's which is the character's name. Yes Similarity between Erica's process and Nancy's process. I feel like there's something not quite right about that Because it's her and her Hamptons house facing the window typing and The writing is not good.

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E. B White

Charlotte's Web

A Newbery Honor Award Winner

The podcast host mentioned how E.B. White, the author of Charlotte's Web, wrote "The Elements of Style", a writing guide.

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He knows how to write a good book.

— Episode: "HEY! You Famous?" (w/ Andrew Ahn & Joel...

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The podcast host mentioned how E.B. White, the author of Charlotte's Web, wrote "The Elements of Style", a writing guide.

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He knows how to write a good book.

The book would be over.

She would use far too much web.

Wilbur in the slaughterhouse, totally dead, side of bacon.

And that's the magic of E.B. White.

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Harlow James

Never Say Never

The Ladies Who Brunch Book 1

The album was mentioned at the end of the podcast, and the song 'Have You Ever' from it was played.

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so listen to that Listen to Never Say Never the album by Brandy Bye Brandy Bye Bye

— Episode: "Grape Culture" (w/ Punam Patel)

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Episode: "Grape Culture" (w/ Punam Patel)

The album was mentioned at the end of the podcast, and the song 'Have You Ever' from it was played.

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so listen to that Listen to Never Say Never the album by Brandy Bye Brandy Bye Bye

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William H. Chafe

The Paradox of Change

American Women in the 20th Century

It was brought up as a favorite movie, with a specific line that resonated with Jessi Klein when she was a new mother, about never truly knowing your child.

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There was that movie I don't know if you ever saw but it's one of my favorite movies that Mike Mills movie 20th Century Women.

— Episode: "I Used To Blow Guys" (w/ Jessi Klein)

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Episode: "I Used To Blow Guys" (w/ Jessi Klein)

It was brought up as a favorite movie, with a specific line that resonated with Jessi Klein when she was a new mother, about never truly knowing your child.

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There was that movie I don't know if you ever saw but it's one of my favorite movies that Mike Mills movie 20th Century Women.

She says I'll never get to see what he's like in the world, I'll never know what he's really like in the world.

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Garcelle Beauvais

Love Me as I Am

It was discussed and held by the hosts multiple times. It was described as an incredible book, with great nuggets, and released on April 12th.

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We both love the memoir we're holding in our hands right now.

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Episode: "You've Had Contact..." (w/ Garcelle Beauvais)

It was discussed and held by the hosts multiple times. It was described as an incredible book, with great nuggets, and released on April 12th.

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We both love the memoir we're holding in our hands right now.

Love Me as I Am, which was out on April 12th.

Don't wait till the 13th, hon. It's not a good idea because you can go on the 12th and get the preorders in.

Love Me as I Am, Garcelle's, this incredible book is out on April 12th.

You can pre-order it now.

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Jay Gillen

The Power in the Room

Radical Education Through Youth Organizing and Employment

It was discussed that Jane Campion won an Oscar for directing this movie, and that it had a significant amount of desert scenes. It was also referenced in the context of a conversation about power dynamics.

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Director is winning an Oscar for the power of the room this year and with alongside her amazing scar crushed in turn Say that it's gonna win We're major Kirsten fans here Can't speak a bad word about...

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It was discussed that Jane Campion won an Oscar for directing this movie, and that it had a significant amount of desert scenes. It was also referenced in the context of a conversation about power dynamics.

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Director is winning an Oscar for the power of the room this year and with alongside her amazing scar crushed in turn Say that it's gonna win We're major Kirsten fans here Can't speak a bad word about her if I tried would be would turn to salt

how the room power of the room power the room Jane Champion Kirsten a dunt Karsten darn and then Jesse Plotkin is me. No molder.

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Thomas Harris

Hannibal Lecter Series Collection 4 Books Set by Thomas Harris (Red Dragon, Silence Of The Lambs, Hannibal, Hannibal Rising)

It was mentioned in the context of a conversation about pigs and how they are often depicted as nasty or violent, referencing a scene from the book where a person is eaten alive by hogs.

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In the book of Hannibal Lecter that someone gets eaten alive by hogs Cuz they're nasty Really sitting here and I'm literally thinking there was a time my hole got hairier

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It was mentioned in the context of a conversation about pigs and how they are often depicted as nasty or violent, referencing a scene from the book where a person is eaten alive by hogs.

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In the book of Hannibal Lecter that someone gets eaten alive by hogs Cuz they're nasty Really sitting here and I'm literally thinking there was a time my hole got hairier

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Gustave Flaubert

Madame Bovary

(Penguin Classics Deluxe Edition)

It was mentioned in a humorous context, where it was said that Vanessa Hudgens claimed to have classic French love stories on a shelf, but they were clearly the newest editions available.

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And it's like, it's like Madam Bovary.

— Episode: "Birds of a Weather" (w/ Louis Virtel)

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Episode: "Birds of a Weather" (w/ Louis Virtel)

It was mentioned in a humorous context, where it was said that Vanessa Hudgens claimed to have classic French love stories on a shelf, but they were clearly the newest editions available.

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And it's like, it's like Madam Bovary.

She just, she saw words.

She saw Madam and she said, that's it.

That's French.

I want that for my house.

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Danny Pellegrino

How Do I Un-Remember This?

Unfortunately True Stories

Danny's book, "How Do I Unremember This?" was promoted throughout the episode. He was excited to have hard copies of it brought to the podcast.

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Really true stories you can pre-order and that will be a smart decision everyone.

— Episode: "X, Y & US" (w/ Danny Pellegrino)

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Episode: "X, Y & US" (w/ Danny Pellegrino)

Danny's book, "How Do I Unremember This?" was promoted throughout the episode. He was excited to have hard copies of it brought to the podcast.

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Really true stories you can pre-order and that will be a smart decision everyone.

How do I unremember this? Unfortunately true stories you can pre-order it you're gonna get it on March 8th

The book is good. It's a lot of nostalgia, pop culture, a lot of family stories. It's comedic and then there's some drama in there too.

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F. Scott Fitzgerald

The Great Gatsby

The Original 1925 Edition (A F. Scott Fitzgerald Classic Novel)

Proposed as the name of a song list for the 300th episode, the book's name was conceived of as a global counterpart to the Great American Song Book.

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The global Los Colcherezos global song book

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Proposed as the name of a song list for the 300th episode, the book's name was conceived of as a global counterpart to the Great American Song Book.

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The global Los Colcherezos global song book

Los Colcherezos presents The 300 songs in the global song book

In the great global song book

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Don Winslow

The Power of the Dog

It was praised for its suspenseful atmosphere, intense performances, and the way it explored themes of masculinity and anxiety. The score was particularly highlighted for its ability to create tension.

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This is written and directed by Jane Campion. And that woman knows how to draw a fucking line through a story.

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It was praised for its suspenseful atmosphere, intense performances, and the way it explored themes of masculinity and anxiety. The score was particularly highlighted for its ability to create tension.

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This is written and directed by Jane Campion. And that woman knows how to draw a fucking line through a story.

It's better the second time. This movie is brilliant.

He says in that opening monologue, he goes, it's my job to protect my mother. What kind of man would I be if I didn't protect my mother?

This is a brilliant script. This is a brilliant movie.

This movie is about a faggot and the women they worship.

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Alex K. Aton

Japanese Breakfast Recipes

A Comprehensive Cookbook for Authentic Morning Japanese Meals

The podcast hosts mentioned that Michelle Zauner, the singer of Japanese Breakfast, came out with a new album and a book this year.

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Fucking great year for her. Came out with a book. Mmm. Came out with a new album. It's so good. Congrats Michelle Zauner.

— Episode: "Hundred. Period!" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

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Episode: "Hundred. Period!" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

The podcast hosts mentioned that Michelle Zauner, the singer of Japanese Breakfast, came out with a new album and a book this year.

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Fucking great year for her. Came out with a book. Mmm. Came out with a new album. It's so good. Congrats Michelle Zauner.

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Nella Larsen

Passing

Rebecca Hall wrote and directed this movie about a woman passing as white in 1920s New York. The hosts said they enjoyed the movie and thought Tessa Thompson gave an exquisite performance.

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I mentioned it last week on the pod and I'm really so happy that you watched it and your parents enjoyed it so much, which was "Passing" by Rebecca Hall. By Rebecca, by Rebecca Hall....

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Rebecca Hall wrote and directed this movie about a woman passing as white in 1920s New York. The hosts said they enjoyed the movie and thought Tessa Thompson gave an exquisite performance.

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I mentioned it last week on the pod and I'm really so happy that you watched it and your parents enjoyed it so much, which was "Passing" by Rebecca Hall. By Rebecca, by Rebecca Hall. Loved it so much and we watched it. I watched it with my parents because I'm now I'm having to pick up movies where there are Chinese subtitles. Netflix with at least their original stuff will have Chinese subtitles on.

I mean I thought that Tessa Thompson was exquisite and I think that she she is not getting talked about enough at this. Yeah of year because I think there's a lot of bigger louder performances but she so what if people don't know the story is about Tessa Thompson is a woman who lives in Harlem and this is 1920s in New York and she one day is Passing in a white part of the city so that she can run errands and What that means for people that don't know is that she is basically light-skinned enough where she can Sort of disguise herself as a white woman so that she is not attacked Ridiculed harassed or worse in this white part of town where she needs to run errands for the day and it's a very hot day so she stops in a hotel and runs into a childhood friends of hers played by immaculate who is fully Passing as a white woman with blonde hair married to Alexander Skarsgard who continues to Push himself like and he does there's no monster. He won't play and there is something brave about it. It's very brave I am part of me is maybe worried that this is all he's getting offered. It's a little typecast Threatening. He's obviously someone who we know I mean he's Eric Northman like I think I think that he's one of the best actors as well. He's but yeah, he plays her husband and Basically like they have a conversation that leaves both of them wanting to reconnect yes and it's dangerous because Alexander Skarsgard is a major racist and So they start a friendship again and the movie takes off from there and it's just it's just fabulous. I mean she Rebecca Hall wrote this right and wrote and directed it based on her own Experience of finding out that her grandfather passed

Mm-hmm. I mean there was such like I told you this right and I think I really think I don't think I'm off here It was a Tennessee Williams quality about this It's a very streetcar like I'm surely coming into the home of this marriage like it just and she was playing like Southern Belle like Blanche Dubois like Ruth Ruth and it was just so so like Wonderfully done yet shot in black and white as a shadow choice

Yeah, I mean oh I loved it I loved it so much. I mean we're just saying how much we love it right? We were just gushing. I don't I mean I know I obviously don't want to give much of the plot away but it is really actually it's very interesting as a as a Movie to look at right now I think particularly in our times because one of these subplots which I thought was really interesting is is Tessa Thompson and her husband have a disagreement about how much to tell their children about violence towards black people and I thought that it was a really really fascinating conversation an argument that they have because Tessa Thompson is the more light-skinned in the couple and she thinks our kids don't need to know about it and her husband who's more dark-skinned And cannot pass her husband cannot pass doesn't have that privilege He is like no they do need to know about it and you know you see the way that Ruth Nega who is You know extremely charismatic and does pass is able to step back into black society and really becomes the bell of the ball So it's so much internally going on in Tessa Thompson's character Yeah to the point where it all ends up to this climax which is you know really really really Impactful and I just think that everyone should watch it because it's so beautifully done and Tessa Thompson I think this put her in a different league for me Absolutely and I was telling you that like she had a very difficult thing to accomplish in this role where between Stella and Blanche Like Blanche is the more interesting one like it's the same thing here It's like or it's like so I really it's like similar to Zola in a way where it's like the looser I mean not the looser cannon like the more mysterious Person the actor like that role is just a little bit shinier and more fun Yes to an audience and for her to sort of have to be this like grounding Thing yeah person I'm sorry I'm so stoned but does this make sense? Like she like it makes a hundred percent sense She really had to like hold that Groundedness I just think we don't respect nuance enough I just think especially you know It's just so hard to do and I think that even in Gaga's performance at House of Gucci Like people are gonna think oh this is like you know and over-the-top like wildly emotional performance but there is nuance in it and I think that That's really what I look for as I look for those little things under the surface that that tell you all you need to know and Passing has so much of that and I think it's also credit to the script and Rebecca Hall You know I've always been like interested in her as an actress like I've always been you know aware of her I like her and Vicky Christina. I like her and you know she was in Frost Nixon I think is the first thing I saw her and she was in the town. She's in lots of good stuff She has a real talent as a writer Yeah oh my god So tight that script like for yeah I mean that triangle of Tessa's character the husband and Ruth's is Such a perfect like yeah triangulation Sorry to say that again but like for Tessa's character where she's like caught between these two poles Yes it's so great Yeah I feel like you know The testament to great writing and also great direction and acting obviously is how much is articulated in what is not said? And so on the page you know What I love is there's a very long scenes between the actors like I really love I miss that I miss I miss like you know cuz it very easily could be a Play a scene on stage Yeah And it was a novella so it's a it's an adapted work But this is a really it's like there's scene study you can do it Because there's subtext and there's really rich things for the actress to play and they're just so good I just can't recommend it enough and I was really happy that you watched it and and liked it so much girl I loved it

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