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We Who Wrestle with God The Benevolent Father and His Fallen Children

Jordan B. Peterson

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It was mentioned as a new book written by Jordan Peterson, which the podcast host is looking forward to discussing with him in the future.

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He's got this new book, We Who Wrestle With God.

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It was mentioned as a new book written by Jordan Peterson, which the podcast host is looking forward to discussing with him in the future.

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He's got this new book, We Who Wrestle With God.

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Peterson shared that he's currently writing a book called *We Who Wrestle With God*. It is based on his reading of the Gospel of Matthew and he believes that the book will be more difficult than his last two books, but not as difficult as *Maps of Meaning*. He hopes that the book will demolish the atheistic argument and reframe the idea of belief.

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I've been reading the gospel of st. Matthew I'm I'm writing a book at the moment called we who wrestle with God and one of the things Christ says to people continually is to not damage their vision is to not put that's the best way of putting it don't occlude your eye you can see what's in front of you if you're willing to see it and if you're willing to see it the terrible many of the terrible obstacles in life you can just walk around but if you blind yourself purposefully to follow your own narrow self-serving delusion you're going to run into terrible things and terrible people and the terrible part of your own soul all the time that's what you should be afraid of but the best thing that you can hope for if you do do that is to fluke success living somebody else's life right right great wonderful yeah exactly you get to be you get to be a successful fraud

I'm very excited about this new book I'm hoping it'll be the best book that I've ever written it's it's going to be more difficult book than the last two were but not as difficult as maps of meaning which means to consume yeah it's it's it's more it's heavy it's it's deeper have you been fighting with trying to make it accessible no not really right i've been i've been i've been just trying to lay the argument out as clearly as i can like and i think that'll do the trick and i i i have to go over it again and edit it and make sure that it's no more obscure than is absolutely necessary no i want to lay it out so that it's comprehensible and i've had a lot of success with the biblical ventures that i've already embarked on i did a series on genesis in 2017 which turned out to be quite influential and then i just did a seminar on exodus with a group of thinkers and i know there's a hunger for analysis of deep stories and i also have good people around me that can help me grind my way through the stories and understand them and so i'm very much looking i've been having quite a good time writing this book actually it's very difficult to write but it's been extremely exciting and interesting and i'm hoping you asked me earlier what would i consider success with this book i don't think that you'll be able to read this book and understand it and be atheistic i think i can demolish the atheistic argument permanently and it's partly it's a weird thing because it's not like all of a sudden people are going to throw themselves at the feet of god in worship it's like it requires a reconsideration of what we mean by belief and i walked through some of it it's like do you believe in the good well there the difference between believing in good and believing in god is it's a very narrow difference now there are important differences but it's still a narrow difference and the thing is if you don't believe in the in good you're aimless and if you're aimless you're hopeless and if you're aimless and hopeless you're anxious and fractionated and people can't unite in their beliefs like the alternative is not good reversing the enlightenment is no small task well hopefully we can save the best of the enlightenment as well it's like uh the uh chested and fence of chested and fence like how many how many different fences are in the field so to speak and if we've thrown this one out and we're trying to plug it back in but which bit of it's going back in the ground things that's very interesting and i think i think people like dawkins have started to realize this and i know that people like douglas murray and i on her c alie and neil fergusson have recognized this is that with the death of god many other things die things you don't expect and one of the things that dies when god dies is science and no one expected that how so because science as a practice is a religious practice it's predicated on religious axioms is it well you have to believe that there's such a thing as truth you have to believe that the truth is understandable you have to believe that understanding the truth is good you have to believe that there is such a thing as good right so imagine to be a scientist you have to imagine that first of all that the world is comprehensible to the human intellect but more that if you investigate the mysteries of the material world that that will be beneficial right those aren't scientific claims those are metaphysical claims and that metaphysical claim is nested in a story you know and the the enlightenment types they've portrayed the scientific revolution as something contrary to the religious substrate and that's not accurate that's a french revolution that's a luciferian intellect history it's not true the universities grew out of the monasteries that's where the universities came from and science as a widespread enterprise got its start in the universities and they grow to the monasteries that's not questionable like if you go to harvard or if you go to oxford and cambridge it's just starkly evident the layout of the of the colleges is a monastic layout so the idea that there is some fundamental contradiction between religious belief and the scientific enterprise it's it's there's nothing about that that's true and part of the reason that we're loo part of the really reason that we're losing the scientific enterprise right now is because we've unmoored it from its metaphysical substrate and it can't survive if you're going to be a scientist you have to put the truth above all else scientists are very rare you have to believe in the truth to be a scientist i think docens believes in the truth by the way so he's an atheist but a very he's much less of an atheist than he thinks that's my impression lying scientists are atheistic or just malevolent docens is a truthful scientist and insofar as he's pursuing the truth and insofar as he believes that pursuing the truth will set you free then he's walking down a path that's christian to its core now i know he doesn't like that idea but he also doesn't like the fact that the scientific enterprise seems to be collapsing in terms of it's what would you call reliability and validity everywhere so

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

Across multiple episodes, Jordan B. Peterson repeatedly announced the forthcoming title, describing it as a deep exploration of biblical narratives that emphasizes confronting uncomfortable truths to build resilience. He and various guests highlighted its analysis of stories such as Abraham, Noah, and Christ’s identification with the serpent, praising the insights as striking and thought‑provoking. The overall tone was enthusiastic, positioning the work as a valuable contribution to discussions of faith and meaning.

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Episode: 451. Navigating Belief, Skepticism, and the Afterl...

Peterson mentioned a new book he just finished called We Who Wrestle with God, where he explores Christ's identification with the serpent in the desert, finding it to be a brilliant and miraculous idea.

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Sorry, I don't want to derail you from your tangent but that's one of the passages that I've concentrated a lot in this new book that I've just finished, We Who Wrestle with God because that equation that Christ manages with his identification with the serpent in the desert, that is so stunningly brilliant that I cannot possibly imagine how anyone could have thought it up.

Episode: 449. Trauma and the Demolition of Faith | Ronnie J...

This is a new book being written by Dr. Peterson, and it hypothesises that the structure through which we look at the world, the hierarchy of values, is what stories are made of. The book also tries to understand how our expectations are shaped by our desires.

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It's a hypothesis that I've developed fairly extensively but I'm working on in detail in the new book that I'm working on right now called We Who Wrestle With God.

We don't expect in the world, we desire, we desire, right. Our expectations are specified by our desires and that's a useful twist because it brings in, it integrates motivation.

Episode: 414. The Rebirth of the Sacred with John Vervaeke

This is a book written by Jordan Peterson that delves into the explication of biblical narrative and seeks to define the sacred through the lens of hyper priors and a hierarchy of assumptions.

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Well, I'm writing, as I mentioned, a book on... on... on explication of biblical narrative. It's called We Who Wrestle With God, and I've been working... Oh, nice pun on Israel. Yes, yes, right, exactly, exactly. And I discovered that relationship when I did the lectures... lectures on Genesis in 2017. So I've been kind of trying to come up with a technique... technical definition of the sacred, right?

And I've been working... on... on... on explication of biblical narrative. It's called We Who Wrestle With God, and I've been working...

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Keeley's book, "We Who Wrestle with God," explores the story of Abraham as a metaphor for living in the light of eternity. He suggests that Abraham's journey reflects the importance of having a multi-generational vision, a principle that is also essential for sustainability.

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So I spent a lot of time recently writing this book, "We Who Wrestle with God" and one of the chapters in that book deals with the story of Abraham.

Episode: 385. Faith, Fame, and Adventure: The Reality Stran...

Jordan Peterson mentioned that he was writing a book titled "We Who Wrestle with God". He alluded to the book's content involving the story of Noah from the bible.

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I'm writing this book called We Who Ressel with God and I was writing about Noah the story of Noah today you know and there's a scene after the arc comes to rest after the flood Noah plants a vineyard and I guess you know he's had kind of a rough time so he plants a vineyard and he brews up some wine and he gets pretty rip-roaring drunk and one of his sons come in comes into his tent and Noah is there passed out and he's naked and instead of covering him up and shutting the hell up about it this son called ham goes and tells his brothers that you know dads made a fool of himself and sort of gets them to come in hypothetically to poke fun at him and instead the other brothers come in with their backs turned and cover him up and then so the story goes the descendants of ham become the slaves the servants and the slaves of the sons who covered up their father and the idea there no this is kind of far afield from what you pointed out but the idea there is that if you don't have a certain degree of respect or even reverence for your father despite his shortcomings which we all have then you're doomed to a useless life and people who are respectful will dominate over you because they'll be you know their lives will go right because they're in accordance with tradition

Episode: Prophecy, Revelation, & the Spiritual Battle | Joh...

It was mentioned as a newly written book by Jordan B. Peterson that would be released soon, focusing on Old Testament stories and God's characterisation.

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Yeah well you see that that's very interesting observation because I've just written a new book called We Who Wrestle with God and it comes out November 12th and what it it's a it's a journey through the characterizations of god in 10 old testament stories about 10 there's uh there's some forays into new testament material but I'm saving most of that for another book

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It was mentioned as a book that Jordan B. Peterson is currently writing, which is similar in structure and concept to Josh Hawley's 'Manhood'.

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Yeah, yeah, so I'm writing this book called We Who Ressel with God and I'm obviously animated by the same spirit, so to speak, that you are because the books parallel each other quite remarkably.

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It was discussed in the context of a unifying, animating spirit and the concept of a covenantal relationship with God, rather than submission.

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...I've been working on this idea in my new book it's called We Who Ressa With God...

...that's why my the name of my next book by the way is we who wrestle with God...

Episode: 482. The Meaning Crisis: Resolution | Dr. John Ve...

Dr. Vervaeke mentioned drawing on Richard Dawkins' work, particularly his newest book, for parts of his book 'We Who Wrestle With God', which was set to be released in November.

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I have a new book coming out in November and I actually drew somewhat heavily on Richard Dawkins for parts of the book.

Dawkins makes a strong case and repeats it again in his newest book which is just out that the an organism, any biological organism has to be a microcosm of its environment, has to be a model.

Episode: 481. 10 Disruptive Truths | Vivek Ramaswamy

Dr. Peterson mentioned his upcoming book, "We Who Wrestle with God", which would be released in mid-November. He discussed the complexities of the culture war between atheists and believers, focusing on the sophisticated nature of religious belief and the inadequacy of simplistic parodies.

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So I've written a new book called We Who Wrestle with God, which will be out in mid-November.

Episode: 472. A Call for the Sane - Beauty, Truth, & Purpos...

The author mentions this as his new book, explaining that it elucidates the idea of becoming immune to the poison of the worst serpents by looking at the things people least want to look at.

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there's a very old idea and I elucidated it in some detail in this new book I wrote this we who wrestle with God that the way you become immune to the poison of the worst serpents is by looking at the things you least want to look at

Episode: 472. A Call for the Sane - Beauty, Truth, & Purpos...

Peterson mentioned his new book, "We Who Wrestle with God," while discussing the importance of confronting difficult truths to build resilience. He referenced an idea from the book about confronting unpleasant realities to gain immunity to the worst problems.

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in this new book i wrote this we who wrestle with god that the way you become immune to the poison of the worst serpents is by looking at the things you least want to look at

Episode: 485. The Rebirth of God: Pathology and Promise | J...

Peterson mentioned that he had a new book coming out in November called "We Who Wrestle with God", and that he and Jamie Wheal were walking parallel paths in many ways, discussing similar ideas.

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I have a book coming out November called We Who Wrestle with God.

Episode: 571. Advice for Love and Marriage | Answer the Cal...

Peterson mentioned his book We Who Wrestle with God alongside Maps of Meaning as part of his ongoing exploration of religious narratives and personal meaning.

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I would like to think that the work that I've done, particularly in my book, Maps of Meaning, in We Who Wrestle with God, I'm working on that as well in a new book called The Foundation of the World, which is an analysis of the gospel stories, is a continuation of that integration tradition.

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Peterson referred to his own book, We Who Wrestle With God, as the source of the ideas he was elaborating in the lecture.

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I elaborated on those theses in my book, We Who Wrestle with God, and I'm writing about it now.

Episode: 571. Advice for Love and Marriage | Answer the Cal...

Peterson mentioned the collection We Who Wrestle with God as part of the same discussion about his previous work and future projects.

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I would like to think that the work that I've done, particularly in my book, Maps of Meaning, in We Who Wrestle with God, I'm working on that as well in a new book called The Foundation of the World...

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Peterson said he had elaborated on his ideas in his own book and was currently writing about it.

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I elaborated on those theses in my book, We Who Wrestle with God, and I'm writing about it now.

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The book was referenced as Dr. Jalal's latest work that the host had seen.

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So obviously, I've seen your latest work on We Who Wrestle With God.

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Jordan Peterson mentioned that in his new book, *We Who Wrestle With God*, he highlighted how the Old Testament God is characterized as the voice of conscience and linked this to a vertical hierarchy of value.

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In this new book I wrote, We Who Wrestle With God, one of the things I pointed out was that the God of the Old Testament, and this continues in the New Testament as well, is characterized very fundamentally in multiple ways, but one of those ways, one of the cardinal ways that he's characterized is as the voice of conscience.

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He announced that his new book was part of his broader effort to revisit and reinterpret foundational stories of the West.

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My new book, We Who Wrestle With God, is part of that enterprise.

Episode: 506. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Juss...

One of the speakers said he reviewed dark tetrad personality constellations and political manifestations in his new book titled We Who Wrestle With God.

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I review them in this new book I wrote on We Who Wrestle With God.

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He announced that his new paperback had been released on November19 and explained that it dissected Old Testament stories to make them both profound and practically applicable.

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He said his new book, We Who Wrestle With God, came out on November19th and he took apart a sequence of Old Testament stories and explained them in a way that was both profound and practically applicable.

He encouraged listeners to pick up the book if they were inclined.

Episode: Reality and the Philosophical Framing of the Truth...

Peterson described his upcoming book as exploring biblical stories, arguing that sacrifice is the central narrative and equating it with community and work.

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my wife and I are going back out on tour for my new book, We Who Wrestle With God.

this is my new book, which is coming out on the 19th. And so, we wrestle with God. And so, I'm making a case in this book fundamentally that, well, we talked about the relationship between story and perception. But I'm trying to explain in this book why the notion of sacrifice is the central story in the biblical corpus, making the case that sacrifice is equivalent to work and that sacrifice is by necessity the foundation of the community, that those two things are so tightly associated that they're equivalent.

Episode: 496. Beyond Dawkins | Jonathan Pageau

Peterson announced the forthcoming November 19th release of his new bookWe Who Wrestle With God.

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So yeah, so I just got this today. This is coming out November 19th, We Who Wrestle With God.

Episode: 491. Symbolic Patterns: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons...

Peterson's own book was used to count references to Cain, showing his detailed textual analysis of biblical stories.

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I mean, for example, I counted up in your book, We Who Wrestle With God, the number of references to Cain.

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It was discussed as Jordan Peterson's upcoming book, set to launch in November, focused on his personal religious journey and interpretation of Old Testament stories.

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We who struggle with God, we wrestle with God, we wrestle with God.

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It was discussed as Jordan Peterson's upcoming book, set to launch in November, focused on his personal religious journey and interpretation of Old Testament stories.

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We who struggle with God, we wrestle with God, we wrestle with God.

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The book was announced as an upcoming release slated for November 12th, with the host noting its title and the author's name during the episode. No specific endorsement or critique was offered, and the mention served primarily as a brief informational update.

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Jordan Peterson's new book, "We Who Wrestle With God", was mentioned. It is set to be released on November 12th.

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His book, November 12th. We Who Wrestle With God. Jordan Peterson is here, ladies and gentlemen.

We who wrestle with God, November 12th this year, the new book is out, the Peterson Academy, is just taking off

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