This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends The Cyberweapons Arms Race

I'm not very good.

I think from what I've covered over the last 10 years, you know the potential for a cyber escalation here is very high.

prepare don't panic

This is how they tell me the world ends

It's a really great history to understand this right now because it will be escalating over over time

I would recommend listening to the interview we did with Nicole Perlroth. Her book is called This Is How They Tell Me the World Ends: The Cyber Weapons Arms Race and that's what it is, that's really what it is.

Read Nicole Perlwals book and you'll be terrified.

So, the short answer is I had been covering these major attacks, and I kept seeing my name in the footnotes of other people writing books.

And I crammed everything in from the last seven to ten years of reporting.

And then I sent it in, and then this giant SolarWinds attack happened.

So in some ways it's the prelude to SolarWinds.

And so I was fascinated by this idea that our own government would preserve a vulnerability in Microsoft Windows so it could spy on Iran or so it could get into Iran centrifuges and take them out one day.

My guest today Nicole Pearl Roth literally wrote the book on cyber warfare.

But that might not be all we have to worry about right now. Today we'll explore the cyber warfare going on these days, how we're being attacked by our enemies on the regular and how ready we are for the next catastrophic cyber attack against the West and or the United States.

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Nicole thank you very much fascinating topic little bit scary but I think we all kind of need to be we need to have our head on the swivel for this sort of thing because there are probably a lot of people out there who are using the same password they use for their Gmail or their Wi-Fi network on their scatter command and control system for the power grid company that they work for and like you are the weak link if you are doing that kind of thing right you are the reason people might die because they can't turn on their aircon in the middle of July because you're too lazy to change your password or you keep it on a sticky note on your desktop or it's your birthday yeah right I mean we see things like that these aren't just silly examples we see real things like that and now people are going to realize not only can it cost their company two hundred million dollars but it could kill people yeah and I think that's something we need to be aware of yeah and you know it's a little bit like the pandemic and that is another sort of piece of good news and that people are thinking along these lines but like you know solving the pandemic governments can only play so much of a role a lot of it came down to what businesses were doing how they were able to continue to run their operations the development of a vaccine and then a lot of it just came down to us wearing masks and social distancing and there's the added you know similarity that a lot of people because they couldn't see the pandemic didn't believe it exists and same in cyber you know a lot of it comes down to personal responsibility a lot of these attacks come through an employee's stolen password or them forgetting to turn on two-backed authentication or to update their software whatever it is so until people realize that they have accountability that they have an individual responsibility to protect their businesses their homes but also you know government agencies to a certain extent we're not going to get anywhere thank you very much now i've got some thoughts on this episode but before we get into that here's what you should check out next on the Jordan Harbinger show

My guest today Nicole Pearl Roth literally wrote the book on cyber warfare.

And if you're wondering how I managed to book all these great authors, thinkers and creators every single week it's because of my network.

Now Nicole Pearl Roth.

Nicole thank you very much fascinating topic little bit scary but I think we all kind of need to be we need to have our head on the swivel for this sort of thing because there are probably a lot of people out there who are using the same password they use for their Gmail or their Wi-Fi network on their scatter command and control system for the power grid company that they work for and like you are the weak link if you are doing that kind of thing right you are the reason people might die because they can't turn on their aircon in the middle of July because you're too lazy to change your password or you keep it on a sticky note on your desktop or it's your birthday yeah right I mean we see things like that these aren't just silly examples we see real things like that and now people are going to realize not only can it cost their company two hundred million dollars but it could kill people yeah and I think that's something we need to be aware of yeah and you know it's a little bit like the pandemic and that is another sort of piece of good news and that people are thinking along these lines but like you know solving the pandemic governments can only play so much of a role a lot of it came down to what businesses were doing how they were able to continue to run their operations the development of a vaccine and then a lot of it just came down to us wearing masks and social distancing and there's the added you know similarity that a lot of people because they couldn't see the pandemic didn't believe it exists and same in cyber you know a lot of it comes down to personal responsibility a lot of these attacks come through an employee's stolen password or them forgetting to turn on two-backed authentication or to update their software whatever it is so until people realize that they have accountability that they have an individual responsibility to protect their businesses their homes but also you know government agencies to a certain extent we're not going to get anywhere thank you very much now i've got some thoughts on this episode but before we get into that here's what you should check out next on the Jordan Harbinger show.

Hi Cara this is nicole pearl roth author of this is how they tell me the world ends a long time cyber security journalist my question for your panelists today is the following one do you feel our system for tracking misinformation and disinformation has been neutered to the point that we'll even know if or when the upcoming election has been interfered with and secondly is there a way to track these threats in such a way that we can effectively protect the trackers themselves from the kinds of spurious political challenges and coordinated online campaigns that we've seen silence them over the past two years thanks so much