Podcast
The Bulwark Podcast
The book explores themes of heroism and cowardice in the context of American politics, focusing on figures like John McCain, Mark Milley, and Jim Mattis, and contrasting their actions with those of Donald Trump. It was discussed in relation to Trump's avoidance of the debates and other actions described as cowardly.
The first story that is mentioned in the book is about my friend, Lindsey Graham.
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Episode: Jeffrey Goldberg: Trump Doesn't Believe in America
The book explores themes of heroism and cowardice in the context of American politics, focusing on figures like John McCain, Mark Milley, and Jim Mattis, and contrasting their actions with those of Donald Trump. It was discussed in relation to Trump's avoidance of the debates and other actions described as cowardly.
The first story that is mentioned in the book is about my friend, Lindsey Graham.
You called McCain's Sancho Panza Sancho.
And he said to you that there's a French saying about Devoit de Rserve, which is the duty of silence.
Remember, this is John Kelly, who also taught him who were the good guys in World War I and World War II when Trump did not know.
He literally said on the plane ride over to France for that now famous cemetery catastrophe when he wouldn't go, you know, and he called them suckers and losers. He asked John Kelly, who were the good guys in World War I?