The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

I first came across the play research through a man named Frank French that's in his book "The Exuberant Animal" and I started digging into it behind that and then came into Stuart Brown's work.

And I read a book called "The Sirius Puppy Training Book" or something like that and they talked about bite inhibition in dogs and I said that you know puppies have to bite because because that's how they manipulate the world right like puppies like dogs their their hands are their jaws and they want to use them and explore what they're capable of.

I got an email from Melanie Notkin who's written a book called Otherhood, um, who herself has no children and she put it succinctly that in her words women are going through the education path, the career path to try to ultimately fall in love and have a family.

He's recently published a book, The Natural Order of Money, which is what we're going to talk about today, trying to puzzle through just exactly what constitutes money and how it might be productively contemplated psychologically, biologically, to some degree, at least in terms of its potential biological implications, economically, sociologically, philosophically, theologically.

It's quite a beautiful book. It's very elegant. It's a very short book, and it's very tightly edited.

When money is gold, cooperation between people and nature is sustainable.

If you're interested in this discussion, I would recommend the book. It's a pretty short read. It's pretty damn clear.

It's a very interesting argument, at least. There may be things wrong with it that I certainly don't understand.

and Stephen J. Gould did the same thing you know when he talked about the mismatch of man and I'd started to understand with my limited statistical and mathematical ability started to understand factor analysis and the sorts of things that we were pursuing more and more mathematically deeply and I thought well Stephen J. Gould is criticizing the hypothetically abstract construct of intelligence it's like well what's the abstract construct here well it's a single factor

and then his next that was a successful book his next book after that was Frames of Mind which is multiple intelligence this book and I think that what he essentially did was there's a very weird thing amongst academic psychologists I've always found this striking the people that they value the most are the people who are the most intelligent

let's discuss a little bit one of the things that struck me I was reading your book the the latest book Ark of a Covenant published in 2022 and it's an analysis at least in large part of the situation in relationship to Israel and the Zionist state and Palestine and I thought that your book was remarkably even handed

you commented just before we started this interview that you wrote a book on a very contentious topic and so that would be the Israel Palestinian situation but you didn't really contribute to an exacerbation of the culture war and you really didn't get pilloried for it

sure let me start with the with the root the Israeli Palestinian situation you know it's Americans were actually you know pro-Israel before the Jews were non-Jewish Americans in in 1890s before Teodor Herzl the founder of modern Zionism had written his book on the Jewish state

in all of these one of the things I in Ark of the Covenant the book I try to make clear is that in many ways this dispute between the Israelis and the Palestinians is one of a hundred such disputes you know Croats and Serbs in the former Yugoslavia Hungarians versus Romanians in Transylvania

it turns out that Stalin had a lot more to do with the Jewish victory in the war of independence and the Nakba the the exile of the Palestinians than either the British or the Americans the the British actually sided with the Arabs in the Israeli war of independence

He's the author of the classic 1985 textbook Computational Physics and is published 200 peer-reviewed papers in the fields of physics, astrophysics, scientific computation, energy technology and policy and climate science,

I have a whole chapter in Visual Thinking book about this and research to on.

I talk to a doctor and he told me he had trouble training interns to sew up cuts because the interns had never used scissors as a young child.

There's a whole chapter in here.

I have a whole list of references in there where the difference between the object visualizer and the visual spatial is being assessed.

That's another paper, spatial versus object visualization, a new characterization of visual cognitive style.