The Joe Rogan Experience

Yeah, and then he got a girlfriend, and the girlfriend got him smoking weed, yeah. And also, he's like, 'Man, this is fucking amazing. God, why am I such a dick? What's wrong with me? Who am I? What am I doing in my life?' Absolutely. It totally flipped his life around. Yeah, The Emperor Wears No Clothes, the fucking great book, man. Yeah, it holds, it holds strong to this day because everything that he said in the book is sort of happening right now.

Yeah, it holds, it holds strong to this day because everything that he said in the book is sort of happening right now, all the stuff that they, you know, they, they tried to prevent from happening through all the anti-cannabis propaganda.

Yeah, The Emperor Wears No Clothes, the fucking great book, man. Yeah, it holds, it holds strong to this day because everything that he said in the book is sort of happening right now.

It's the type of shit that Jack Hererra was trying to tell people in The Emperor Wears No Clothes.

It's an interesting book.

That state of mind that you get when you release an arrow and that arrow perfectly finds its mark really is and it's you're it requires so much concentration and focus and technique that you really don't think about other things beautiful and it's cleansing in a lot of ways it's mind cleansing I find you jitsu to be very similar in that way too that it's so all encompassing it's so there's so much on the line it's so difficult to do that while it's happening you're freeing your mind up.

She wrote a fantastic book called "Everything You Need To Know About Trans" that like she's she's now a researcher right um and she went into really deep detail about like here is all of the medical science here is all of here's all the science about it and so at this point in the conversation I would say hey man I just got a bone up on you know on that particular because I don't want to speak to suicide rates my entire concern is with children my concern is not with young adults deciding to take steps to confirm their gender identity who they feel they really are I'm all for you doing whatever you want to do when you're an adult when your mind is formed

She's one of the people who's affected by uh the uh Trump uh uh military ban on trans service people you know so that's why she's trans because she's trans

And then the interview they did with me doesn't talk about alt-right stuff at all, but they just assume I'm on the conservative right. That must mean that I am alt-right.

And it's like no, you stupid. No problem with these labels. They're disingenuous. People are labeling people in a very simple manner to try to categorize them as the enemy.

I love watching your debates where you do Q&A's with college students and with people in the audience because you can see you agree with your disagree with you. You have well-formulated ideas. This isn't just some bullshit that you're spouting out. You've thought these things through.

My entire history on on Muslim relations is one like I supported the ability of El Han Omar to wear a hijab on the on the floor. I opposed President Trump's originally proposed Muslim ban.

I mean, I've been doing this for legitimately more than half my life. I'm 35 and I started when I was 17 and I started writing a syndicated column at that point. And when you're 17, you think a lot of dumb stuff.

She wrote these books and how to do stand up and everybody bought those books everybody that wanted to try to do stand up bought those books everyone you see even comedy green room still a lot just like like on a shelf somewhere yeah

And they would give you like exercises so she'd be like go get a newspaper and write 10 premises out of the newspaper today you know it's not look the reality is if you're not a funny person and you're still trying to pursue a path and stand up that's not yeah there's nothing with that shit shut that off don't give her the time to take it fucking Judy Carter maybe she's funny I'm just joking impossible

There was literally no books on how to do stand up there was no books there was a couple books written by comics and they were almost always tongue in cheek like bells are Richard Bells are wrote a book on how to do stand up and just gave you some like joke advice for the most part

I had a woman yesterday who is an expert if she's a medical historian an expert in Victorian eras surgery uh Lindsay Fitzgeris and she wrote this great book called the buttering art and in it there's all these images she she one of them she brought up of what smallpox actually looks like when people get it it's horrible yes but it just covers people's bodies we've eradicated it yes like the science is full and you die from it yes people have actually gone yes we don't get it anymore in this country yes anywhere credible yes I mean it's credible yes

his books were incredible

this Robert E. Howard, was this really tortured guy who was a guy who lived with his mom, he had you know, fairly poor health and he died suicide, when he was like 36 years old, but he wrote a bunch of these books about a guy, that was nothing like him, about a guy who was this just unstoppable force of nature, from this he created, this place called, was Sumerian, well no what do you call it? Well it was his, Samarian, it was Samarian is that what it was? where Conan, Conan the Samarian right? C.I.M. he created a whole world, and in this world it was like very games of throny, in a lot of ways, original shit, like no one to this day is really captured the books, in a movie, Arnold was fun as Conan, and then Jason Mamo, was like a better fit physically, he was like a perfect fit physically, more realistic, all created by this one guy, super depressed, you just write these books about this guy who just fucked, all these women and killed everyone and just smashed his way through the world and pouted, crazy shit though, was all him fighting dragons and monsters and demons coming for his soul and he ran for 72 hours and fights him off of the sword, and when you're 12 years old, like I was and I got into this shit, like what ECW wrestling was for me, there was like titty everywhere, and violence and blood and nails, yeah yeah yeah

My book, The Butchering Art, really focuses on this one guy named Joseph Lister who applies germ theory and develops antiseptic, so germ-fighting techniques, right?

And that's in the book, see. This, this would be a great movie, don't you think?

So my book begins with the first operation under anesthesia, and I wanted to start there, because I think if anybody has ever thought about the history of surgery, which they might not have until they tuned into this podcast, they tend to think of that moment; that's the big moment. But actually, surgery becomes much more dangerous because the surgeon still doesn't understand germs but he doesn't have the patient fighting him anymore, so he's more willing to pick up the knife and go deeper in the body, and so post-operative infection rises.

It's my first book, and I'm working on a new book on the history of plastic surgery.

And so I'm looking at a guy named Harold Gillies who was rebuilding soldiers' faces during World War One, and if you've ever seen these guys' photos, I mean it's, we have no problems, you know, you you think we have no problems in the 21st century. You look at these guys because they've been shot through the face and their jaws are missing, and Harold Gillies um really um designs um or starts plastic surgery as we know it.

but like it's the public nature of Kenseko's book it's like I don't know I'm just guess it but his book was like his book turned out to be like the Jose Kenseko's book about stories turn out to be like the steel dossier of baseball it's like everybody thinks it's pissed and thinks a bunch of bullshit and then over time it's slowly proven true.

and you see these films like whiskey tango froc struck about Afghanistan and i just i just don't recognize that that world at you know partying every night at whatever bar restaurant i just I just think if you're there and you're obviously in the wrong place right right and it's not it's not an adventure you know it's not a fun trip for you of wild times and you know it's it's not that it should be um i mean for me it feels like an endurance test every time you go it should be hard and you should be spending time with the people you're covering and and you know sometimes you can you can think you've finished with someone and just go for dinner or tea and just by having normal human conversations you find out so much other stuff that you didn't go there to report on you know that's that's what you have to be doing and that takes weeks weeks of getting closer to them and getting their trust yeah yeah yeah and just just you know spending enough time there where you you then end up being in the right place at the right time to show something really happening

why do you think you believed it I read really interesting article about him just a few days ago where was it um I forget what what it was you know the expose but a really good look at look at look at him and I think he's just spent his career believing rightly that the government lies about all kinds of things and that's got him into a point where he thinks well they always lie no matter what so and it's happened to a lot of journalists Robert Fisk Seymour Hersch Martha Gellhorn I mean one my favourite war correspondents of all time I reread some of her stuff recently and the first batch of war reporting she did I think is the best war reporting I've ever read Spanish Civil War Vietnam and then she spent 25 years writing novels and then later on wrote about I believe it was the Yom Kippur War and was denying that massacres had happened and saying you know our Arabs lie they always lie there was no massacre and we now know there was a massacre or there were massacres in the aftermath of these of these wars um so I don't know what happens I mean maybe if you just do this for too long you just become so cynical um that you're open to these things but it's yeah I'm amazed that Seymour Hersch is open to that idea.

So your book, Freak Kingdom.

It's really about taking the fucking emotion of living in this present, looking back at Thompson's career and then trying to write it like a novel to dramatize all of the experiences he went through that are today.

So applicable to us and just show his perspective that so applicable to us today.

it's available everywhere on amazon

Hunter S. Thompson's 10 year manic recade against American fascism

he wrote a book called um Stories I Tell Myself about his relationship with his father

and Juan writes beautifully about the stakes of it how painful it was to the people that loved him of course everything about it um and how that even if that's a logical outcome that that's not no it's so it's interesting I would say read Stories I Tell Myself with that moment is so honestly and really written by Juan

my first book was called Hyper um a personal history of ADHD so it's about being medicated as a child

But this book, The Blue Marble Health Book came out of some number crunching that I did using data from the World Health Organization or something called the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, which is based in Seattle, Washington.

And then I realized that it's among the poor living in wealthy countries.

So the poorest of the rich today now account for most of the world's poverty-related diseases.

I mean, clearly in some cases, if you live in poor dilapidated housing without window screens, things like mosquitoes and kissing bugs and sandflies can get inside the house

And that's why I'm trying to raise awareness about these poverty-related diseases in the United States.