On Being with Krista Tippett

In the Catholic tradition, there is a form of grace, the sanctifying one, that is the stuff of your soul. It is not defined by moments of mercy or opportunity. It is not good things happening to you. Rather, it is the good thing that is in you, regardless of what happens. You carry this down through generations, same as the epigenetic trauma of a violent slave master society. But the grace is the bigger part. It is what made the ancestors hold on so that we could become.

And when I describe Christian science, I know I'll probably offend Christian science by doing this, but this is the way I've always considered it is it's kind of like the movie, The Matrix. If you ever saw The Matrix where basically everything you see, it doesn't really exist.

Yeah, I read Du Bois. No. Yeah. Well, when you read Color Line and how that when that captured your imagination, what happened?

Yeah, I read Du Bois. No. Yeah. Well, when you read Color Line and how that when that captured your imagination, what happened? Well, I had to read Souls of Black Folk at a very, very young age. I mean, I probably was like nine or ten.

I wonder if you've heard of her name is Melissa Raphael.

She's the only woman in this entire day.

And that notion that some of the patriarchal divinity perished during those harsh years of the 20th century, but another type of divinity slowly emerging, which is not binary and which is the long lost feminine voice in Judaism and in other religions.