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Dana R. Fisher explained why she is an "apocalyptic optimist" and what she believes will motivate people to take action on climate change. She believes that climate shocks will be necessary to motivate real systemic change.
I define a climate shock as a deviation from average, extreme average climate variability that is exacerbated by climate change.
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Dana R. Fisher explained why she is an "apocalyptic optimist" and what she believes will motivate people to take action on climate change. She believes that climate shocks will be necessary to motivate real systemic change.
I define a climate shock as a deviation from average, extreme average climate variability that is exacerbated by climate change.
So it is basically adding the climate change component to these natural variability that we see right now with El Nino.
We weren't allowed to save fossil fuel interest in the summary for policymakers. They rewrote it to be vested interests.
I do believe that there is we have the capacity to save ourselves, but I also believe that it is going to come with pain and suffering.
And so I believe it's possible, but it's only when there is this real sense of losing power that the decision-makers will finally take the actions that are needed.