Unbound A Practical Guide to Deliverance from Evil Spirits

Beth Vumanic Lopez sent us a copy of Unbound, colon, how eight technologies made us human, transformed society, and brought the world to the brink by Richard L. Currier.

We are not going to waste any time today. We're going to jump right back in with our friend and author of UNBOUND, Tarana Burke.

And then you're just going to have to read the book to see Tarana's self who rejected that notion very clearly and beautifully.

And I'm going to tell you, and I feel like I can have this conversation with y'all because sometimes I feel like when I talk about being Christian or about God, people are like, okay. You know, it's like, I don't know. That's a nice hobby you have.

The next right thing is to have unbound. The next right thing is to put it in people's hands.

I imagine all of the little girls, little black girls who I know you wrote this book for who are you're there Maya Angelou now, like they're seeing you as, and they're seeing your pain, but they're seeing your joy.

It's already broken into the top, the number three on the New York Times list, right? And Oprah's crying over it over and over and over again.

People are comparing it to I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, which I'm sure is just no big deal for you at all, right Tarana?

Well, let's start at the start. Let's start at the beginning of Unbound and parts of the beginning of your life, which is sort of where the origin of all of your work begins, which is when you were sexually assaulted as a child.

I finished the book and kept what was now in my mind, our secret.

Can you talk about this? Because I feel like it's the, it's another double bind that you talk about, which is that for so many survivors, it's the very same bodies that are the portals through which we access this pleasure and sexuality are the same portals that were poisoned by our assaulters with shame and hyper-vigilance.