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The Bulwark Podcast
Ali Vitali discussed her book, "Electable", and her thoughts on Vice President Harris's political struggles and her chance at redemption in the upcoming election cycle. Vitali explained that she sees Harris's outspokenness on abortion as an opportunity for her to be seen as a passionate advocate.
Author of Electable, Why America Hasn't Put a Woman in the White House Yet.
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Ali Vitali discussed her book, "Electable", and her thoughts on Vice President Harris's political struggles and her chance at redemption in the upcoming election cycle. Vitali explained that she sees Harris's outspokenness on abortion as an opportunity for her to be seen as a passionate advocate.
Author of Electable, Why America Hasn't Put a Woman in the White House Yet.
Well, Tim, this is my first time on the pod, but I'm definitely coming back because you just said I was your favorite of all the people you ever have done television with. Is that what I heard correctly?
Look, when it comes to Kamala Harris, I think that and I write this in the book, like she is subject to both the fair and unfair. Her allies would tell you that most of it is unfair. Her critics would tell you that all of it's fair. I actually fall somewhere in the middle right alongside of you, which is that as a politician, you got a deal in the world that you live in and you can't wave a magic wand and make people not still fall prey to misogyny and racism.
And I again write this in the book, is like vice presidents are not supposed to overshadow the boss.
And I put that with an asterisk because like, I don't know if we're getting debates this time. But if we do, what an opportunity because we watched what she did with former Vice President Mike Pence, although the fly certainly played its own role too.