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The book was brought up by Pippa Norris during discussions about the global rise of the far right. She explained that it examined how increasing security reduced the importance of religion, leading to a shift toward secular values. The hosts used it to illustrate broader cultural changes linked to far‑right movements.
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Pippa Norris said she had written a book called Sacred and Secular that examined the rise of secular values and cultural changes.
And you mentioned Sacred and Secular.
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The book was referenced while discussing the decline of religious practice and the rise of secular values across societies.
As increasing security came about, religion no longer seemed to be as important in people's lives... I wrote a book on that, Sacred and Secular.