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The Ezra Klein Show
The host described the title as a left‑leaning proposal that government should deliver abundant resources such as affordable housing, clean energy, and infrastructure, and noted its mixed reception among progressives and conservatives. He also mentioned criticism that the book sometimes downplays the goal of breaking corporate power.
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Klein described the book as a leftleaning project arguing that government should provide enough resources for people, discussed its reception among progressives and conservatives, and noted criticism that it sometimes downplays powerbreaking goals.
And your book with Derek Thompson, Abundance, came out. For folks who haven't read the book, we handily adapted a part of it into audio and video.
I mean, my view is that abundance is best understood as a fairly left wing project, which is to say that there are certain things that liberals and I think in this case also leftists want government to deliver. Housing and a lot more of it, particularly a lot more affordable housing, clean energy, and capable state capacity, the ability to build things like public infrastructure, high speed rail, roads, rapidly.
There are certainly places where I would like to break the power of corporations, break the power of billionaires, tax them more, regulate them more. But then also, if we're going to decarbonize the economy and build all this clean energy infrastructure, corporations are going to do a lot of it.