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The host noted they had been reading the title and described it as a cultural observation about appearing less pretentious. It was mentioned while reflecting on recent reading choices, and no strong endorsement was given. The overall tone was neutral, simply bringing up the book in passing.
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The speaker said they had been reading Applebee's America and described it as a book about cultural observations tied to appearing less pretentious. It was mentioned in the context of reflecting on recent reading choices.
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I was reading books about going to Applebee's, Applebee's America. It was all about, you know, it was about appearing less frank.