The book was discussed at length in two episodes, with Arianna Huffington and host Steven Bartlett highlighting its core message of a "third metric" of success that prioritizes well‑being, connection and joy over money and power. They emphasized the practical approach of micro‑steps and daily behaviors to improve health and performance, and noted that it supports balancing career ambitions with personal life choices. The overall tone was strongly positive, framing the title as a valuable guide for creators and leaders.
Episode: Arianna Huffington: I Was Lying In A Little Pool O...
It was discussed multiple times throughout the podcast. The book's core message, the "third metric" of success, encompassing well-being, was highlighted, and its concepts on behavior change through microsteps were also mentioned.
One is when you overcome that fear of rejection, that fear of failure, we are much more likely to take bold moves.
I had bought into this delusion that in order to be super founder and super mom, I didn't have the luxury to take care of myself.
It was unnecessary suffering.
But as I talked to a lot of scientists, it became very clear that there are five daily behaviors that makes everything you're doing even more successful.
taking care of yourself it doesn't mean you don't work with intensity in fact when we launch thrive and we're interviewing people to hire we realized early on that there are people who thought oh they could go work for thrive and it would be like chilling under the mango tree so we had to explain to them no no we're a very ambitious high charging company and if you want to chill under the mango tree that's not a good place to be and we tell everybody there will be times when you have to deliver a product or meet a deadline and you may have to work late or work and we can but what we do then we give people thrive time immediately after like if you've worked extra hard to meet a deadline then take thrive time to recharge and you know Stephen that's actually good for the business because very often people get sick or make their biggest mistakes when they are completely depleted so it's not about lack of intensity it's about taking time to refuel recharge and be at your best
Episode: Arianna Huffington: I Was Lying In A Little Pool O...
It was discussed multiple times throughout the podcast. The book's core message, the "third metric" of success beyond money and power, was explained, focusing on well-being, connection, and joy.
I mean, that's the story of your life. You got into Cambridge when only three colleges accepted women. You become the president of Cambridge Union and the third woman ever to lead the debating society.
It's like you may want to focus on your career and then have children later or you may want to have your children and then focus on your career. That's really what's changing that there isn't one way to find fulfillment and contribute.
I believe you can have it all but maybe not at the same time and I believe that there isn't one right way to do it.
So my message was really what's pretty much accepted now but was pretty radical at the time which is yes if you want to have a career fantastic everything should be open to you equal opportunities equal pay everything but if you want to bring up your children and you can afford to do it on one salary that should also be given equal respect.
in your book you write about these four pillars and you start with the self right and you quote Leonardo da Vinci and so many of the wise men and women we admire talk about that you know know thyself the unexamined life is not worth living.
