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Messing with the Enemy Surviving in a Social Media World of Hackers, Terrorists, Russians, and Fake News

Clint Watts

A former FBI Special Agent, U.S. Army officer and leading cyber-security expert offers a devastating and essential look at the misinformation campaigns, fake news, and electronic espionage operations that have become the cutting edge of modern warfare—and how we can protect ourselves and our country...

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The Jordan Harbinger Show

The book discussed how hostile entities use social media for propaganda and recruitment, particularly ISIS and Russia, and how that affects our way of life.

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I'd written a fiction conclusion to my book and I made an app in the story called You Know You which is you make people believe that they're making their own choices and then they take it on even more...

— Episode: 172: Clint Watts | Surviving in a World...

Episode: 172: Clint Watts | Surviving in a World of Fake Ne...

The book discussed how hostile entities use social media for propaganda and recruitment, particularly ISIS and Russia, and how that affects our way of life.

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I'd written a fiction conclusion to my book and I made an app in the story called You Know You which is you make people believe that they're making their own choices and then they take it on even more because they're like, oh, I am liberated. I'm choosing all this but you don't know behind the scenes whoever's paying for the advertising, whoever's pushing the products, who's ever changing the words, who's ever delivering you the video that you need to see this especially edited or a deep fake or whatever it might be is manipulating you in some way.

It's not designed for the highest most educated people. It's designed for those that don't have a good balance on what is trusted information.

It's really an establishment versus a populist movement inside jihad it just happened years before and ISIS is sort of a first version one of the first versions of that arab spring it's sort of rolled in there too you know we had that going on.

Tom Nichols wrote the book death of expertise but I mean I saw it in the context of social media in particular which is go to any kid today and you're like hey how do you do this and go oh I can do that I could take a heart out or I can start a car and you're like yeah but if you've ever done it no it's on YouTube or it's on Google you know I can figure it out I can figure it out.

My friend Ryan Holiday wrote a book called trust me I'm lying where he would sort of bubble up little he'd send out your little blogs hey you know this author to this and the authors is client and then that would bubble up to a local news source and then a national news source would suddenly be like this guy is doing all these crazy things and here's a bunch of free PR for the book and in the Kremlin kind of like but maybe bought that and handed it out to everybody in their info war center right.

Episode: 172: Clint Watts | Surviving in a World of Fake Ne...

It was discussed how social media and online systems are optimized for control and insidious persuasion, and how this can be used by terrorists and state actors to influence people's beliefs and actions.

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I'd written a fiction conclusion to my book and I made an app in the story called You Know You which is you make people believe that they're making their own choices and then they take it on even more because they're like, oh, I am liberated. I'm choosing all this but you don't know behind the scenes whoever's paying for the advertising, whoever's pushing the products, who's ever changing the words, who's ever delivering you the video that you need to see this especially edited or a deep fake or whatever it might be is manipulating you in some way.

It's really an establishment versus a populist movement inside jihad it just happened years before and ISIS is sort of a first version one of the first versions of that arab spring it's sort of rolled in there too you know we had that going on

Tom Nichols wrote the book death of expertise but I mean I saw it in the context of social media in particular which is go to any kid today and you're like hey how do you do this and go oh I can do that I could take a heart out or I can start a car and you're like yeah but if you've ever done it no it's on YouTube or it's on Google you know I can figure it out I can figure it out

Ryan Holiday wrote a book called trust me I'm lying where he would sort of bubble up little he'd send out your little blogs hey you know this author to this and the authors is client and then that would bubble up to a local news source and then a national news source would suddenly be like this guy is doing all these crazy things and here's a bunch of free PR for the book

I talk about how you would use aggregate uh face wipes on dating apps to pick the next governor of a state by going and finding him based on his physical appearance because you know we'll attract to the voting audience that that you want to tailor that candidate towards

Episode: 172: Clint Watts | Surviving in a World of Fake Ne...

It was discussed in the context of social media manipulation by foreign actors, particularly Russia, emphasizing how simple methods can be very effective at destabilizing societies.

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I'd written a fiction conclusion to my book and I made an app in the story called You Know You which is you make people believe that they're making their own choices and then they take it on even more because they're like, oh, I am liberated. I'm choosing all this but you don't know behind the scenes whoever's paying for the advertising, whoever's pushing the products, who's ever changing the words, who's ever delivering you the video that you need to see this especially edited or a deep fake or whatever it might be is manipulating you in some way.

It's not designed for the highest most educated people. It's designed for those that don't have a good balance on what is trusted information.

ISIS stepped in and said, if we want to kill 100 people, we don't have to create a hydrogen peroxide bomb and cook it in whatever and do this and that. And so guys who weren't very smart and didn't get to complex terrorize the entire world in ways al Qaeda never did.

It's not sophisticated at all. So if you had thrown that out to a bunch of military planners, this is the Masha comparison. They'd have been like that. That would never happen. That's just too simple. Why would they do that?

Maybe maybe in order to get some new listeners, I'll have a Macedonian click farm, you know, building me up a couple, a couple million fake accounts.

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