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The second book, which builds on that, is another good book by Sergei Guriev and Daniel Treisman and the book is called Spin Dictators, and it's about the changing face of tyranny in the 21st century.

I wrote an earlier book called Digital Divide, which really said that the internet, which was taking off at the time, started of course in around 1995 as the visual browser, can be used both positively and negatively for democratic engagement.

So here's a good one that I read not long ago called We the Fallen People, the Founders and the Future of American Democracy by a professor named Robert Tracy McKenzie. It really looks at the role of sort of the view of the fallenness of human nature in the design of the country.

People might have heard of the John Haidt, Greg Lukianoff book, The Coddling of the American Mind a few years back.

He wrote the book The Money Problem to talk about the 2008 financial crisis.

So this is where your book makes a pretty profound move in its theory of financial regulation.

I make the argument in the book that really America's system of money and banking is broken.

Second, John Gertner's The Idea Factory, which is about Bell Labs. It was arguably the most important engine of innovation in the 20th century, and it was a part of the regulated monopoly telephone system-- it's just a great book.

The third would be Lev Menand's Fed Unbound, which is a historical treatment of a lot of the private money issues that we've been talking about and the Fed's role and how the Fed has really been transformed in the past couple of decades.

In his book High Weirdness, Eric Davis, the historian of Californian counterculture, he describes weird things as anomalous. They deviate from the norms of informed expectation and challenge established explanations sometimes quite radically.

Megan O'Geeblin has this brilliant book God, Human, Animal, Machine which I highly recommend. And she writes in it, if you were to print out everything the networks do between input and output, it would amount to billions of arithmetic operations.