The Ezra Klein Show

how Kuhn in this book which was written in the 1960s gives a series of historical examples and theoretical frameworks for how do you think about a paradigm shift

another book that has been very valuable for me is Rise of the Machines by Thomas Ridd and that really tells the story of how machines that were once the play things of dorks like me became in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s things of national security importance

the last book is definitely an unusual one but I think it's vital and that's A Swim in the Pond in the Rain by George Saunders and he's this great essayist and short story writer and novel writer ... he takes seven Russian literature short stories and gives a literary interpretation of them

I was thinking about it, and one of them, I think, would be Robert Kagan's book, The Jungle Grows Back, which is a short book that tries to explain the nature of this world that America built and how its erosion and decay will result in the jungle growing back, the jungle of realpolitik, war, poverty, and all the things that existed before.

Henry Kissinger wrote a wonderful kind of history called Diplomacy, and it begins in the 17th century, and it goes all the way to the 1970s, 80s, as I recall, and it's just called Diplomacy.

Back in 2016, when Donald Trump won the first time, there was this book. It was selfpublished by a former CIA media analyst named Martin Gurry that became a kind of phenomenon in Silicon Valley. The book was called The Revolt of the Public.

In 2014, you published this book, The Revolt of the Public.

Anything by Andrei Mir. I would pick Postjournalism and the Death of Newspapers, which is basically a history of the art form, a very detailed history of the art form, kind of explaining, and your newspaper is kind of front and center, explaining how the business model has changed from selling eyeballs to advertisers, to sort of commodifying polarization, right? Beautiful book.

Second one, a British economist, Paul Ormerod, has got a book called Why Most Things Fail. And you should read it, first of all, because it's a great title.

One is an article, How Mathematics Built the Modern World, on Works in Progress, one of my favorite long reads of the last several years.

The second is Radical Markets by Glenn Weil and Eric Posner.

And the third is What Hath God Wrought, which is the Oxford history of the United States.

I think we will recommend an astonishing book about her experience as a graduate student in history at Berkeley surviving an abusive relationship and going through the Title IX process and the reason that I mention it here is that I think what Joy does in a really astonishing way is weave together the details of her experience as somebody who suffered from this abuse as somebody who was testifying to her own experience with what it means to do the work of history when the archive is uncertain as to what it's telling you.

Tony Horowitz, who is a friend of mine... he wrote Confederates in the Attic. It's a beautiful rumination on mortality and history.

a book by Philip Wallach ... it's called Why Congress and is really a wonderful argument about the reasons for the centrality of the national legislature and our national politics.

I would recommend Patrick Deneen's book, Regime Change. I like to think of it as like Curtis Yarvin for normies, but it explains this whole idea of elite replacement and what you're trying to do and what Deneen calls a constitutional Regime Change that I think a lot of people on that side of things are now hoping we're living through.

There's a great, fat, really boring, way too detailed, but really revealing book called Between Two Fires that is like a history of American fire. It really teaches you a lot about the American landscape and I think people might benefit from it.

Marc Andreessen is the author of something titled A Techno Optimist Manifesto.

Tim Schenck's book, Left Adrift, is a great sort of intervention into the, like, what's up with Democrats kind of debate, looking historically at Bill Clinton and, to an extent, Barack Obama, but also a lot of Tony Blair, Ehud Barak, sort of center-left figures.

I can like read to you the passage from The Art of the Deal where you talk about how you like to bullshit a lot in negotiations and make dumb threats.

My friend Chris Hayes ... wrote a great book called The Siren's Call, How Attention Became the World's Most Endangered Resource. I've read most of the books on attention out there. This one is, I think, the best one at understanding the value of attention today.

Chris Hayes, your book is great. I recommend it to everybody.