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A Bit of Optimism
The book was mentioned in passing when the Walmart CEO noted he had read it about sustainability. He highlighted the book's focus on system conditions for sustainability and the principle that caring for people is essential for environmental health. The mention was brief and not presented as a strong endorsement.
Episode: The Value of Values with Walmart CEO Doug McMillon
It was mentioned in passing that Doug McMillon read this book about sustainability. It discussed the importance of taking care of people for environmental sustainability.
I later learned I read a book I think it's called the natural step that describes the system conditions for sustainability and one of the principles is if you don't take care of people they will kill the last animal and harvest the last plant to take care of their family.