Shepherds for Sale explores how left-wing billionaires and secular influencers are infiltrating and transforming churches. It detailed how this isn't a new thing and that it has happened before with the Communist Party infiltrating churches in the 1930s and 40s.
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This was such a fascinating read and part of what struck me was the history that you start out with. This is not actually a new thing for American churches. It's something familiar that happened in the 1930s and 40s with the Communist Party USA.
So I thought it was really important to start the book out with that because you want to remind people that this is not the first time that we've seen activity like this.
Well, for people who are interested, a fabulous book on this very topic is Witness by Whitaker Chambers or anything basically by Paul Kengor.
In 2020, numerous analysts found that enough evangelical voters either voted for Biden or just stayed home in key states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to swing the election for Democrats. Can you draw a direct line between the efforts you discovered and your research and the election outcome?
And another one that was orchestrated by an alumnus of the Obama administration, Michael Ware, and his was called Not Our Faith. And its very explicit purpose was to get some of that evangelical vote to swing over to Biden or at worst, maybe they would stay home and not turn out so that the evangelical support that Trump enjoyed in 2016 would not be there.
Another interesting thing that you brought up in your book was your speculation as to why this effort has been so successful, specifically why some of these evangelical elites, high-profile pastors, et cetera, are so eager to jump on these bandwagons. What do you believe their motivation is?
You said, quote, those Christians who resisted being drafted into this project are the ones who creation care activists accuse of being political. Can you explain that a little bit?
So what would you say then to critics who would accuse conservative organizations of trying to influence churches? Is there a difference there? Is that happening frequently?
And so if you dig into it a little bit more, you actually find that this church curriculum was exclusively funded by these large left-wing foundations. In this case, Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors, which supports things that most Christians would disagree with, things like abortion through the third trimester, transgender treatments on youth and things that would certainly be very controversial.
All right. Well, Megan, this was a fantastic read and a huge accomplishment. Thank you so much for coming on and talking about it with us. It's been really fun to be on this side of things. Thanks for having me.
That was Daily Wire culture reporter, Megan Basham, discussing her new book, Shepherds for Sale out July 30th.
