The Messy Middle Finding Your Way Through the Hardest and Most Crucial Part of Any Bold Venture

He's also the author of two best selling books, The Messy Middle and Making Ideas Happened.

the last book was the messy middle

i'm in the messy middle

you wrote that book the messy middle or seen that book it's a it's arguably a long too long of a book to just tell you the basis of the story and there's this graph in it where it's like you're on this just path from here to here and as you're going up the path and you're going up the hill like your low you'll have low points still but you look back and go that low point is way higher than my low point when I was like in high school and it was just that's and like that's kind of like this image that's just burned in my brain and seeing that as like it's I think it's a book mostly meant for like business owners and like that so it's as someone who kind of has a business it's like I should read this and it was just very interesting to see thinking about that and then like like what you said like the the whole the whole sense of time as you get older is so warped